Oct. 16th - Does it really matter? - Blu-ray Forum

DealsR4theDevil · 10-14-2007, 09:55 AM

I can wait till monday I suppose, why does it start on monday though?
Also I noticed your avatar is the Dragonball Z movie on Blu-ray. I was wonderin if you knew what to expect from the release, I wanna get it but im hesitant to buy it blindly as FUNimation is a small studio and may not deilver in quality. My plan is to wait for reviews froms sites I trust but your avatar suggests you may buy it blindly. What do you honestly expect from teh transfer?

gamer4eva · 10-14-2007, 10:13 AM

its gonna be in 1080p and funimation always take time wif thier releases so i think its gonna be gud hope it is cause dat week shrek 3 is comin out it'll be funny if dbz takes over shrek 3

MOONPHASE · 10-14-2007, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by gamer4eva

its gonna be in 1080p and funimation always take time wif thier releases so i think its gonna be gud hope it is cause dat week shrek 3 is comin out it'll be funny if dbz takes over shrek 3

are you kidding DBZ wouldnt even have to use its super saiyan powers to beat up Shrek the 3rd but its funny 2 cartoon exclusives battling eachother out on the same day but DBZ is way more popular but if it was Shrek 1 or 2 then there might be a problem but with the 3rd one its a cake walk for DBZ that week

MOONPHASE · 10-14-2007, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by DealsR4theDevil

I can wait till monday I suppose, why does it start on monday though?
Also I noticed your avatar is the Dragonball Z movie on Blu-ray. I was wonderin if you knew what to expect from the release, I wanna get it but im hesitant to buy it blindly as FUNimation is a small studio and may not deilver in quality. My plan is to wait for reviews froms sites I trust but your avatar suggests you may buy it blindly. What do you honestly expect from teh transfer?

well i would think monday starting off a new week that monday might be still be considered as the week of transformers release. the transfer for Dragon Ball Z Broly i would imagine the play quality will be amazing since DBZ has great animation and so in Blu-Ray high definition would look amazing. Audio the highest possible sound might just be 5.1 DTS or maybe just a real clear Dolby Digital but nothing like Linear PCM or Dolby DTS HD master audio. the extras will only be like 1 or 2 but to get 2 movies on 1 disc thats amazing and maybe even previews to upcoming releases from funimation. funimation is not as small as you may think because here in america they are the ones selling the most anime here in the united states even though they are only available for u.s. only wouldnt see a location from them in japan. Besides i want to see anime on blu-ray so im going to buy it hoping my purchase will make them see that they need movies on blu-ray and funimation is already blu exclusive

jknuss01 · 10-14-2007, 10:23 AM

Nielsen/VideoScan Numbers always end on Sunday. Mondays start the new week (for Nielsen/VideoScan Numbers).

BLU_scotty · 10-14-2007, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by jknuss01

Nielsen/VideoScan Numbers always end on Sunday. Mondays start the new week (for Nielsen/VideoScan Numbers).

Monday is the first day of the week and the week ends on Sunday. So why would Nielson be any different? The week doesn't end on Saturday it ends on Sunday.

Chris Beveridge · 10-14-2007, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by BLU_scotty

Monday is the first day of the week and the week ends on Sunday. So why would Nielson be any different? The week doesn't end on Saturday it ends on Sunday.

Maybe it varies by where you are. Where I am, Sunday is always considered the start of a new week by the calendar. Sunday - Saturday.

RUR · 10-14-2007, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Beveridge

Maybe it varies by where you are. Where I am, Sunday is always considered the start of a new week by the calendar. Sunday - Saturday.

Chris, Nielsen's week runs Monday thru Sunday. That's why all the Nielsen week-ending dates are Sundays and this has been verified over on AVS.

Chris Beveridge · 10-14-2007, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by RUR

Chris, Nielsen's week runs Monday thru Sunday. That's why all the Nielsen week-ending dates are Sundays and this has been verified over on AVS.

I understand that, but if you look at what I was quoting, it wasn't about the nielsen thing at all, but about how weeks are considered to be laid out.

JAGUAR1977 · 10-14-2007, 04:18 PM

It isn't important at all, but we all saw the number of posts and fuss after they had a good week in the Knocked Up week, but how many posts have you seen this week, when Blu-ray had a decent week?

On AVS this weeks results weren't even posted in the HD-DVD sales section until someone explicity asked for them, no one will need any prompting to post if HD-DVD win a week.

Bury bad news, hype good news.

GamingPhantom · 10-14-2007, 04:40 PM

it's ashame that spiderman trilogy isn't coming out on the 16th, but i doubt that transformers will outsell 300. imho flip-flopping bay and paramount have alienate themselves from a portion of their consumers.

BLU_scotty · 10-15-2007, 05:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris Beveridge

Maybe it varies by where you are. Where I am, Sunday is always considered the start of a new week by the calendar. Sunday - Saturday.

I'm Christian and the first day of the week for Christians is Monday. I guess if you're Jewish then the first day of the week is Sunday. I'm not sure about any other religions.

davidPS3 · 10-15-2007, 05:17 AM

I bought 3 movies this week. Am not buying any movies this week (just nothing that interests me) and will be getting 6! next week.

My position has always been to buy what we want and when we want. I don't want to buy a title just to buy a title.

There are SO many threads on the Transformers Movie and how we have to battle this, but there are other HD-DVD movies coming out that will appeal to consumers as well. So much focus on one movie.

DealsR4theDevil · 10-15-2007, 06:08 AM

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Originally Posted by BLU_scotty

I'm Christian and the first day of the week for Christians is Monday. I guess if you're Jewish then the first day of the week is Sunday. I'm not sure about any other religions.

I used to be catholic, and while we beleieved Sunday to be the las day of the week (the day God rested), most catholics i knew/know still wouldnt think of monday as the first day of the week in a professional or secular setting, officially Sunday is the first day of the week, I dont know why nielsen wants it to be monday.

Frode · 10-14-2007, 02:18 PM

Actually the problem is that Funimation has shown that they can't be trusted with hi-def transfers, judging by what they've been doing to DBZ TV. The post house they've been using are either incompetent or been told to botch things in an attempt to make it look more cartoony (rather than what was originally intended). As a result, the colors are off, grain completely filtered out, linework filtered out, detail smeared and no actual repairs being done to film print damage. I don't trust them not to do the same to their BD releases. The only real saving grace is that OAR for the movies are 1.85:1, so at least they won't screw that up.

Bombthroat · 10-14-2007, 02:44 PM

IMO, it only matters in the fact that it would be nice for Blu-ray to sweep software sales for all 52 weeks.

Is it truly important? No, we'll just have to listen to HD DUD fanboi chatter about how HD DUD is mounting a "comeback". They will then point to that data in all future conversations and omit the other 51 weeks where Blu-ray curb-stomped HD DUD in sales.

Petra_Kalbrain · 10-14-2007, 02:52 PM

The WEEK of Oct 16th is ALL important. With "Transformers" being the last major new release for HD DVD this year, it is the equivalent of the enemy's last stand at the only outpost remaining on the battlefield. In a real war scenario, why would we only want to send 10,000 troops to attack 200,000 troops at their ONLY remaining haven when we have the resources at our disposal to send well over 500,000 and destroy them?

Obviously, this analogy implies that we could win this war on the week of Oct 16th. Although I wish that could be the case, it is not. I just used it to emphasize my point. But, although it may not win this format war, it would certainly send the HD DVD camp scrambling to re-consider their choices. The psychological element to shattering their numbers ONCE AGAIN would have to start weighing on their minds.

richteer · 10-14-2007, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Petra_Kalbrain

Obviously, this analogy implies that we could win this war on the week of Oct 16th. Although I wish that could be the case, it is not. I just used it to emphasize my point. But, although it may not win this format war, it would certainly send the HD DVD camp scrambling to re-consider their choices. The psychological element to shattering their numbers ONCE AGAIN would have to start weighing on their minds.

Agreed. Obviously, in the grand scheme of things, HD DVD winning one (or at the very most, two) week this whole year is nothing. But the psychological blow to HD DVD supporters if they lose the week Transformers is released will be pretty substantial. Transformers really is their last hope of scoring a win this year, and I for one would love to deny them that little bit of hope...

WriteSimply · 10-14-2007, 07:11 PM

Also, the sale of BVHE titles seems to be running on several sites so you've got your pick.

fuad

slickkeng · 10-14-2007, 07:17 PM

With all the sales this week for blu-ray I doubt Transformers will overrun Blu-ray this week. They will be limited to their userbase which is much more limited than Blu-ray's userbase. It will sell well no doubt for an HD-DVD title and will probably be there best selling disc so far, but for every Transformers bought this week, there will be at least 2 blu-rays bought if not more. Hmmm, odds have to be in Blu's favor unless Transformers can sell tons of new HD-DVD standalones!!! No worries, Transfomers will be on Blu is a about 16 months anyway and probably with better picture and audio quality (if you cant wait, buy the fricken DVD to tide you over).

10-14-2007, 09:55 AM	#1
DealsR4theDevil Power Member Member since:Sep 2007 Trading Score:76	I can wait till monday I suppose, why does it start on monday though? Also I noticed your avatar is the Dragonball Z movie on Blu-ray. I was wonderin if you knew what to expect from the release, I wanna get it but im hesitant to buy it blindly as FUNimation is a small studio and may not deilver in quality. My plan is to wait for reviews froms sites I trust but your avatar suggests you may buy it blindly. What do you honestly expect from teh transfer? Last edited by DealsR4theDevil; 10-14-2007 at 09:59 AM.

10-14-2007, 10:13 AM	#2
gamer4eva Special Member Member since:Apr 2007 Location:Sydney, Australia Blu-ray collection:64 Blu-ray reviews:18	its gonna be in 1080p and funimation always take time wif thier releases so i think its gonna be gud hope it is cause dat week shrek 3 is comin out it'll be funny if dbz takes over shrek 3 Last edited by gamer4eva; 10-14-2007 at 10:15 AM.

10-14-2007, 04:18 PM	#10
JAGUAR1977 Special Member Member since:Aug 2007 Blu-ray reviews:1	It isn't important at all, but we all saw the number of posts and fuss after they had a good week in the Knocked Up week, but how many posts have you seen this week, when Blu-ray had a decent week? On AVS this weeks results weren't even posted in the HD-DVD sales section until someone explicity asked for them, no one will need any prompting to post if HD-DVD win a week. Bury bad news, hype good news. Last edited by JAGUAR1977; 10-14-2007 at 04:24 PM.

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10-14-2007, 10:23 AM	#5
jknuss01 Member Member since:Aug 2007 Location:Woodstock, GA 4K collection:455 Blu-ray collection:468 iTunes collection:3 Trading Score:2	Nielsen/VideoScan Numbers always end on Sunday. Mondays start the new week (for Nielsen/VideoScan Numbers).

10-14-2007, 04:40 PM	#11
GamingPhantom Member Member since:Sep 2007	it's ashame that spiderman trilogy isn't coming out on the 16th, but i doubt that transformers will outsell 300. imho flip-flopping bay and paramount have alienate themselves from a portion of their consumers.

10-15-2007, 05:17 AM	#13
davidPS3 Special Member Member since:Jul 2007 Location:Seattle	I bought 3 movies this week. Am not buying any movies this week (just nothing that interests me) and will be getting 6! next week. My position has always been to buy what we want and when we want. I don't want to buy a title just to buy a title. There are SO many threads on the Transformers Movie and how we have to battle this, but there are other HD-DVD movies coming out that will appeal to consumers as well. So much focus on one movie.

10-14-2007, 02:18 PM	#15
Frode Special Member Member since:Feb 2007	Actually the problem is that Funimation has shown that they can't be trusted with hi-def transfers, judging by what they've been doing to DBZ TV. The post house they've been using are either incompetent or been told to botch things in an attempt to make it look more cartoony (rather than what was originally intended). As a result, the colors are off, grain completely filtered out, linework filtered out, detail smeared and no actual repairs being done to film print damage. I don't trust them not to do the same to their BD releases. The only real saving grace is that OAR for the movies are 1.85:1, so at least they won't screw that up.

10-14-2007, 02:44 PM	#16
Bombthroat Active Member Member since:Aug 2007	IMO, it only matters in the fact that it would be nice for Blu-ray to sweep software sales for all 52 weeks. Is it truly important? No, we'll just have to listen to HD DUD fanboi chatter about how HD DUD is mounting a "comeback". They will then point to that data in all future conversations and omit the other 51 weeks where Blu-ray curb-stomped HD DUD in sales.

10-14-2007, 02:52 PM	#17
Petra_Kalbrain Blu-ray Archduke Top contributor Member since:Jul 2007 Location:Vancouver, BC 4K collection:5 Blu-ray collection:561 Blu-ray reviews:3 Trading Score:20	The WEEK of Oct 16th is ALL important. With "Transformers" being the last major new release for HD DVD this year, it is the equivalent of the enemy's last stand at the only outpost remaining on the battlefield. In a real war scenario, why would we only want to send 10,000 troops to attack 200,000 troops at their ONLY remaining haven when we have the resources at our disposal to send well over 500,000 and destroy them? Obviously, this analogy implies that we could win this war on the week of Oct 16th. Although I wish that could be the case, it is not. I just used it to emphasize my point. But, although it may not win this format war, it would certainly send the HD DVD camp scrambling to re-consider their choices. The psychological element to shattering their numbers ONCE AGAIN would have to start weighing on their minds.

10-14-2007, 07:11 PM	#19
WriteSimply Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Sep 2006 Location:Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia	Also, the sale of BVHE titles seems to be running on several sites so you've got your pick. fuad

10-14-2007, 07:17 PM	#20
slickkeng Senior Member Member since:Sep 2007 Trading Score:16	With all the sales this week for blu-ray I doubt Transformers will overrun Blu-ray this week. They will be limited to their userbase which is much more limited than Blu-ray's userbase. It will sell well no doubt for an HD-DVD title and will probably be there best selling disc so far, but for every Transformers bought this week, there will be at least 2 blu-rays bought if not more. Hmmm, odds have to be in Blu's favor unless Transformers can sell tons of new HD-DVD standalones!!! No worries, Transfomers will be on Blu is a about 16 months anyway and probably with better picture and audio quality (if you cant wait, buy the fricken DVD to tide you over).

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