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JBL4645 · 01-07-2010, 10:45 AM

Red and Blue filter glasses make the light level major dull! The new grey tinted RealD 3D or Dolby 3D are not that bad but they still reduce the light level like any sunglasses would when worn outside.

As for those common waste of Bluray title like Zombie Express with Tom Hanks I don’t fancy looking at bunch of lifeless animated Zombies on small or large screen on bluray what a waste of money!

I hear people in the shop debating over this issue and I say don’t even bother its Red and Blue filter glasses and its going to look bad!

I think they are trying to get the new digital 3D to work with Bluray not sure about DVD may not have enough storage capacity as for Bluray good luck to them if they can make Dolby3D work with Bluray.

Also 3D on those silly size LCD just doesn’t work! You really need to be close to it! A video projector may work since the image will be something like a average in most homes 6 or 9 feet wide by several feet high.

70mm IMAX where it uses two strips of IMAX 70mm to produce the 3D.

If you look side to side the image stays intact as 70mm IMAX 3D
If you look up and down the image stays intact as 70mm IMAX 3D
If you role your head left to right the 70mm IMAX 3D then comes undone as 70mm IMAX 3D What a load a RUBBISH!

Now with Dolby 3D I noticed I could look at it at many angles and the Dolby 3D stayed intact as Dolby 3D very good!

As for RealD I haven’t seen it yet so I can’t comment on it.

As for digital IMAX I haven’t seen it and I’d guess it will stay intact as digital IMAX 3D.

Penitus · 01-07-2010, 10:53 AM

Death to 3D... I get a headache watching it.

syncguy · 01-07-2010, 11:16 AM

3D in its present form gives me headaches. They are not really "real" 3D - They are just gimmiky cartoonish presentations. Perhaps 3D has to more subtle and closer to reality to be acceptable as "real 3D".

jcdennis · 01-07-2010, 11:43 AM

I shake my head whenever I see these threads, and always look to see if I can find a compelling reason to agree with the anti-3D crowd. I just don't get the thought that we shouldn't move forward.

A great deal of enjoyment can be had viewing a movie in 2D, and present 3D technology leaves something to be desired, but I can't help but think that people with the same mindset would have reacted just like this when radio was first threatened my "moving pictures".

Sure there's a gimmick aspect of it now. But in time it'll be just one more tool that film makers can use to "suspend the disbelief" of the audience.

Teazle · 01-07-2010, 11:51 AM

I saw Avatar on Mon. About halfway through the show I found myself thinking: Seeing this film in 2D would be seriously to miss out on something the director wants us to see, something important to the film.

It would be like seeing Star Wars in black and white or Transformers with a stereo downmix instead of the full-on surround sound.

In those cases you can still (mostly) follow the action along. But something important would be missing.

Avatar struck me as a natural and intuitive use of 3D and a demonstration that 3D is not intrinsically gimmicky. (Contrast gratuitous uses of 3D eg. the yo-yo in Friday 13th Pt 3.)

Some people will not be able to deal with 3D because, like surround sound wrt stereo, it's more demanding on the viewer than 2D.

The rest of us are going to have a blast!

JBL4645 · 01-07-2010, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Penitus

Death to 3D... I get a headache watching it.

Can you be more precise?

I get a headache with the cardboard red and blue common 3D glasses because one of the colours I think blue does it? Red colour not so, bad?

P@t_Mtl · 01-07-2010, 12:16 PM

3D as always been the one technology in movies that attracted me the least. Sound, picture quality...all this always take's me in everytime something better come's along but 3D never.

For me 3D as always been nothing more then a gimmick by filmmaker to dress up ordinary movies. The recent buzz with Avatar is a perfect example. This movie is very fun but there is not much there, it's ordinary, nothing different that as not been done 100 times before. You could even see it in the comments from the hard core fans of the film "you have to see it in 3D" almost as if they actualy know the movie is very ordinary and there is just the gimmick of 3D to make it interesting. Forcing me to wear glasses over my own glasses in order to see a movie will be a sure way very quickly to turn me away from a movie. A director as certainly every right to make his movie the way he wants. That being said I have the right not to see it if I decide too.

SDon1969 · 01-07-2010, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by iam1bearcat

your thoughts on 3D?

Well, with poor eye-sight in my right eye, the whole 3D effect is lost on me. So for me, 3D is not going to work. I can still slightly get the 3D effect by squinting my good eye, but watching a movie with a Popeye face is uncomfortable and weird. And whatever the color of the left lens is, well that's the color of the movie, which is also a dealbreaker.

Unless they somehow come up with 3D that doesn't use two different color lenses or require both eyes (sounds impossible), I won't be able to enjoy it.

fdm · 01-07-2010, 12:22 PM

Just a gimmick. Not worth my time or money.

emoxley · 01-07-2010, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by iam1bearcat

So, all this talk ALREADY about 3D this and 3D that is getting old. I personally have no interest in 3D TV's, 3D made films and whatever else they feel like throwing 3D into.

I understand some people love 3D and that's fine if they want it, but I personally don't NEED it and feel it doesn't make a film any better.

I watch movies for story, acting, characters, dialogue, atmosphere and all sorts of other things, not for big 3D sequences. I understand it may help to "pull you in" (har har) but I'm not gonna go run out to see Alice in Wonderland in 3D just because it is - because that's not what films are about. It may make the experience better, but it doesn't make me more interested in seeing a film.

Reason I start this thread is because I just found out The Cabin in the Woods got delayed until 2011 so they could be upconverted to 3D. Great

your thoughts on 3D?

I said exactly the same thing, until I saw Avatar at an Imax theater. Then I had to eat my words! The 3D effect in Avatar was spectacular! If the 3D is headed that way for home use, I'll embrace it, but I will have nothing to do with the red & blue lens crap.

SDon1969 · 01-07-2010, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by emoxley

I said exactly the same thing, until I saw Avatar at an Imax theater. Then I had to eat my words! The 3D effect in Avatar was spectacular! If the 3D is headed that way for home use, I'll embrace it, but I will have nothing to do with the red & blue lens crap.

So the Avatar 3D didn't use the colored lenses? How does it work, a different kind of glasses?

P@t_Mtl · 01-07-2010, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by emoxley

I said exactly the same thing, until I saw Avatar at an Imax theater. Then I had to eat my words! The 3D effect in Avatar was spectacular! If the 3D is headed that way for home use, I'll embrace it, but I will have nothing to do with the red & blue lens crap.

But that's the thing, the movie is ordinary, there is nothing in the story. It's all about how good the 3D is. Don't you think a movie should be about more then just the gimmick? Hollywood is already giving us less and less movies with depth. I don't mind a popcorn movie, they are fun but they should have characters and stories but they don't even bother with that anymore, it's all about the effects. Now it's going to be just about the 3D? Are movies about gimmicks or about stories?

Elvis · 01-07-2010, 12:46 PM

We had a 3D fad once...IN THE 1950'S!

3d will never be the standard if you have to wear glasses.

Franin · 01-07-2010, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Elvis

We had a 3D fad once...IN THE 1950'S!

3d will never be the standard if you have to wear glasses.

Was it same where people were getting very excited about it? I guess its a bit like deja vu for you?

master_8ball · 01-07-2010, 01:12 PM

Hmmm, advancement in home and theatre entertainment, no why would I want that?

I love how so many people judge the new 3D tech based on their experience with red and blue/green cardboard glasses... Movies shown in 3D in the theatre and soon to be in home have been from comfortable clear plastic glasses for at least the last 5 years! Get over the crap experience you had with Jaws 3D and check out what the 21st century has to offer.

The 3D in Avatar and Beowulf is amazing, its not about stuff popping out of the screen all the time, which I can see some people seeing as a "gimmick" its about the depth in the picture and the detail on different levels. Its about experiencing the movie on a different level. It doesn't take away from audio, or video (Real D tech, red and blue glasses certainly degrades the PQ)

Franin · 01-07-2010, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by master_8ball

Hmmm, advancement in home and theatre entertainment, no why would I want that?

I love how so many people judge the new 3D tech based on their experience with red and blue/green cardboard glasses... Movies shown in 3D in the theatre and soon to be in home have been from comfortable clear plastic glasses for at least the last 5 years! Get over the crap experience you had with Jaws 3D and check out what the 21st century has to offer.

The 3D in Avatar and Beowulf is amazing, its not about stuff popping out of the screen all the time, which I can see some people seeing as a "gimmick" its about the depth in the picture and the detail on different levels. Its about experiencing the movie on a different level. It doesn't take away from audio, or video (Real D tech, red and blue glasses certainly degrades the PQ)

you can experince that already with a good screen and well calibrated system. So whats the other advantages??

oh wait its things popping out of your screen

master_8ball · 01-07-2010, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Franin

you can experince that already with a good screen and well calibrated system. So whats the other advantages??

oh wait its things popping out of your screen

ya okay HD now equals 3D picture

Franin · 01-07-2010, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by master_8ball

ya okay HD now equals 3D picture

calibrate your display by an ISF calibrator you will see. Unless your display can be calibrated by an ISF calibrator. Pioneers have an advance menu that can but others projectors go a bit futher.

newtype · 01-07-2010, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Penitus

Death to 3D... I get a headache watching it.

Me too, I had a hard time sitting through avatar.

Franin · 01-07-2010, 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KDASH

Me too, I had a hard time sitting through avatar.

Did Avatar 3D give you a headache? Because I get it with the old 3D way but was told the new way you dont get a headache.

01-07-2010, 10:45 AM	#21
JBL4645 Banned Member since:Sep 2009 Location:Bournemouth, Dorset, UK Blu-ray reviews:1	Red and Blue filter glasses make the light level major dull! The new grey tinted RealD 3D or Dolby 3D are not that bad but they still reduce the light level like any sunglasses would when worn outside. As for those common waste of Bluray title like Zombie Express with Tom Hanks I don’t fancy looking at bunch of lifeless animated Zombies on small or large screen on bluray what a waste of money! I hear people in the shop debating over this issue and I say don’t even bother its Red and Blue filter glasses and its going to look bad! I think they are trying to get the new digital 3D to work with Bluray not sure about DVD may not have enough storage capacity as for Bluray good luck to them if they can make Dolby3D work with Bluray. Also 3D on those silly size LCD just doesn’t work! You really need to be close to it! A video projector may work since the image will be something like a average in most homes 6 or 9 feet wide by several feet high. 70mm IMAX where it uses two strips of IMAX 70mm to produce the 3D. If you look side to side the image stays intact as 70mm IMAX 3D If you look up and down the image stays intact as 70mm IMAX 3D If you role your head left to right the 70mm IMAX 3D then comes undone as 70mm IMAX 3D What a load a RUBBISH! Now with Dolby 3D I noticed I could look at it at many angles and the Dolby 3D stayed intact as Dolby 3D very good! As for RealD I haven’t seen it yet so I can’t comment on it. As for digital IMAX I haven’t seen it and I’d guess it will stay intact as digital IMAX 3D. Last edited by JBL4645; 01-07-2010 at 11:00 AM.

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Penitus Expert Member Member since:Dec 2008 Location:Ohio Blu-ray collection:126 Blu-ray reviews:10	Death to 3D... I get a headache watching it.

01-07-2010, 11:16 AM	#23
syncguy Blu-ray Guru Member since:Mar 2008	3D in its present form gives me headaches. They are not really "real" 3D - They are just gimmiky cartoonish presentations. Perhaps 3D has to more subtle and closer to reality to be acceptable as "real 3D".

01-07-2010, 11:43 AM	#24
jcdennis Member Member since:Nov 2007 Location:Halifax, Nova Scotia Blu-ray collection:69	I shake my head whenever I see these threads, and always look to see if I can find a compelling reason to agree with the anti-3D crowd. I just don't get the thought that we shouldn't move forward. A great deal of enjoyment can be had viewing a movie in 2D, and present 3D technology leaves something to be desired, but I can't help but think that people with the same mindset would have reacted just like this when radio was first threatened my "moving pictures". Sure there's a gimmick aspect of it now. But in time it'll be just one more tool that film makers can use to "suspend the disbelief" of the audience.

01-07-2010, 11:51 AM	#25
Teazle Power Member Member since:Aug 2007 Location:Canada Blu-ray reviews:1	I saw Avatar on Mon. About halfway through the show I found myself thinking: Seeing this film in 2D would be seriously to miss out on something the director wants us to see, something important to the film. It would be like seeing Star Wars in black and white or Transformers with a stereo downmix instead of the full-on surround sound. In those cases you can still (mostly) follow the action along. But something important would be missing. Avatar struck me as a natural and intuitive use of 3D and a demonstration that 3D is not intrinsically gimmicky. (Contrast gratuitous uses of 3D eg. the yo-yo in Friday 13th Pt 3.) Some people will not be able to deal with 3D because, like surround sound wrt stereo, it's more demanding on the viewer than 2D. The rest of us are going to have a blast!

01-07-2010, 12:16 PM	#27
P@t_Mtl Blu-ray Duke Member since:Sep 2008 Location:Montreal Home Theater Gallery:4 Blu-ray collection:452 DVD collection:513 Trading Score:3	3D as always been the one technology in movies that attracted me the least. Sound, picture quality...all this always take's me in everytime something better come's along but 3D never. For me 3D as always been nothing more then a gimmick by filmmaker to dress up ordinary movies. The recent buzz with Avatar is a perfect example. This movie is very fun but there is not much there, it's ordinary, nothing different that as not been done 100 times before. You could even see it in the comments from the hard core fans of the film "you have to see it in 3D" almost as if they actualy know the movie is very ordinary and there is just the gimmick of 3D to make it interesting. Forcing me to wear glasses over my own glasses in order to see a movie will be a sure way very quickly to turn me away from a movie. A director as certainly every right to make his movie the way he wants. That being said I have the right not to see it if I decide too.

01-07-2010, 12:22 PM	#29
fdm Blu-ray Ninja Top contributor Member since:Nov 2007 Location:Way Out West 4K collection:- Blu-ray collection:- DVD collection:- Digital collection:- iTunes collection:- Prime collection:- Blu-ray reviews:2 Trading Score:3	Just a gimmick. Not worth my time or money.

01-07-2010, 12:46 PM	#33
Elvis Banned Member since:May 2009 Location:The Jungle Room Home Theater Gallery:1 Blu-ray collection:327 DVD collection:45 Blu-ray reviews:10 Trading Score:18	We had a 3D fad once...IN THE 1950'S! 3d will never be the standard if you have to wear glasses.

01-07-2010, 01:12 PM	#35
master_8ball Blu-ray Knight Top contributor Member since:Jan 2008 Location:Ontario, Canada Home Theater Gallery:19 Blu-ray collection:675 Blu-ray reviews: 7 Trading Score:2	Hmmm, advancement in home and theatre entertainment, no why would I want that? I love how so many people judge the new 3D tech based on their experience with red and blue/green cardboard glasses... Movies shown in 3D in the theatre and soon to be in home have been from comfortable clear plastic glasses for at least the last 5 years! Get over the crap experience you had with Jaws 3D and check out what the 21st century has to offer. The 3D in Avatar and Beowulf is amazing, its not about stuff popping out of the screen all the time, which I can see some people seeing as a "gimmick" its about the depth in the picture and the detail on different levels. Its about experiencing the movie on a different level. It doesn't take away from audio, or video (Real D tech, red and blue glasses certainly degrades the PQ)

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