More format wars?

[Mikeblu]

yes weve prettymuch won the hd dvd format war but looking at wiki there are some others that seem to be in development that could come onto the market and threatern our lead
these are:

FVD (Forward versatile disk)
doesn't seem like much of a contender basicly a improved dvd with multiple layers can hold 15gb. but it is cheaper that either blu or hd dvd

HDVMD (versatile Multilayer Disc)
uses a red ray laser and a form of enhancement allowing it to hold lots of layers allowing for currently 30gb per side but that is improving

UDO (ultra Density Optical)
uses same technology as a blu ray it currently has 60gb per layer discs but is more costy than blus

LS-R
it stacks lots of layers of blu-ray tech could hold 1 terabite of data but its in quite low stages of development

For more info go on optical discs on wikipedia. what do you think of this?

[david2189]

personally i think theyre all way to late and dont stand a chance in hell

[Slapper]

Originally Posted by david2189

personally i think theyre all way to late and dont stand a chance in hell

Agreed.

[JJ_L]

Even though the formats exist. No one has taken an interest to them. Blu ray can hold up to 200GB with 8 layers... So even if some of those take off Blu-ray can still be ahead. Hopefully they can add the additionall layers with firmware but in the past that has not happened.

[The Don]

Originally Posted by JJ_L

Even though the formats exist. No one has taken an interest to them. Blu ray can hold up to 200GB with 8 layers... So even if some of those take off Blu-ray can still be ahead. Hopefully they can add the additionall layers with firmware but in the past that has not happened.

has the 200GB disk been confirmed?

[E-Dogg]

Originally Posted by The Don

has the 200GB disk been confirmed?

Honestly would we need this much room? Regardless i's far too late for anyone else to enter the HD race.

[tron3]

Originally Posted by david2189

personally i think theyre all way to late and dont stand a chance in hell

Ditto. Just because something is better doesn't mean it will gain acceptence.
HDM Studios are commited to BD and HD DVD - period. They can't possibly be stupid enough to allow this montage into the mix. Well, you never know with Paramount.

Not only is BD100 staring us in the face, they can slightly upgrade the capacity of the disc and still remain compatible with the player. HD DVD was 15gb and is now 17GB on the triple layer - which has yet to surface.

Only a true optical disc MIGHT have a chance. The next natural progression is the same as the music industry from CD to .mp3. The future of movies is in downloads and memory sticks. Doesn't mean disc formats are going in any case.

[stockstar1138]

HVD - Holographic Versitile Disc

That one is something to behold when it comes out. I have a feeling itll be the successor to blu-ray. We'll be watching Super HD quality movies on it. The way I see it

PS3 - 100GB blu-ray
PS4 - 200GB blu-ray drive
PS5 - HVD (3TB)

Xbox 360 - DVD
XBOX 720 - 100 GB Blu-ray
XBOX 1080 - 200 GB blu-ray

[Mikeblu]

acualy HVD can carry 3.8 tb although talking in terabytes the .8 is quite alot, but don't forget about protein coated disks http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protein-coated_disc

and the ps4 probably wont stick with blu ray each console has gone up a format
PS1-CD
PS2-DVD
PS3-Blu-ray
though they have been backwards compatible

[Mikeblu]

so im guessing it will go
PS1-CD
PS2-DVD
PS3-Blu ray
PS4-HVD
PS5-PCD (protein Coated Disk)

[haushausman]

Some might survive as a useful media to burn on. But costs would be too high if it never got rolling.

[radagast]

Originally Posted by Mikeblu

yes weve prettymuch won the hd dvd format war but looking at wiki there are some others that seem to be in development that could come onto the market and threatern our lead
these are:

FVD (Forward versatile disk)
doesn't seem like much of a contender basicly a improved dvd with multiple layers can hold 15gb. but it is cheaper that either blu or hd dvd

HDVMD (versatile Multilayer Disc)
uses a red ray laser and a form of enhancement allowing it to hold lots of layers allowing for currently 30gb per side but that is improving

UDO (ultra Density Optical)
uses same technology as a blu ray it currently has 60gb per layer discs but is more costy than blus

LS-R
it stacks lots of layers of blu-ray tech could hold 1 terabite of data but its in quite low stages of development

For more info go on optical discs on wikipedia. what do you think of this?

FVD - DOA
HDVMD - no long term advantages over Blu-ray
UDO - storage capacity not big enough to warrant scrapping Blu-ray
LS-R - Too far down the road and too expensive

[Mikeblu]

Originally Posted by radagast

HDVMD - no long term advantages over Blu-ray

but its cheaper so i think HDVMD could be a possible contender considering its 30gb on a considerably cheaper disk

[radagast]

Originally Posted by Mikeblu

but its cheaper so i think HDVMD could be a possible contender considering its 30gb on a considerably cheaper disk

It's cheaper and has less capacity. It also has a slower data transfer rate.
Blu technology will come down in price. I REPEAT:

It has NO long term advantages over Blu.

[Mikeblu]

Originally Posted by radagast

UDO - storage capacity not big enough to warrant scrapping Blu-ray

you do realise thats 60gb per layer right but it costs more by about 15 20 pounds a disk

[radagast]

Originally Posted by Mikeblu

you do realise thats 60gb per layer right but it costs more by about 15 20 pounds a disk

60gb per layer isn't that much more than what Blu does. It's more but not THAT MUCH more. Esp. considering the ALREADY demonstrated multi-layer Blu technology.

I REPEAT:
storage capacity not big enough to warrant scrapping Blu-ray

[Mikeblu]

Originally Posted by radagast

60gb per layer isn't that much more than what Blu does. It's more but not THAT MUCH more. Esp. considering the ALREADY demonstrated multi-layer Blu technology.

I REPEAT:
storage capacity not big enough to warrant scrapping Blu-ray

were not talking about scrapping were talking about thepossibility of another format war which we might need to prepare for

[WickyWoo]

There will never be an product in our lifetimes targeted toward a mass market above maybe 1440p

The problem is that 1080p supports very well the screen sizes that can fit in people's homes. You can show a good Blu-Ray on a full-size movie theater screen and it looks great. I've done it

I seriously doubt we'll see any commercial 100GB Blu-rays, hasn't HD DVD and DVD-18 taught us over and over that the more layers over 2, the exponentially greater failure? BD-50 can hold by itself a superior compression of a 2.5 hour movie. Why is everyone always looking for that bigger disc?

60gb per layer isn't that much more than what Blu does

That's 2.5 times the per-layer of Blu

were not talking about scrapping were talking about thepossibility of another format war which we might need to prepare for

There is no "other" format war. It's simply not going to happen. This is it, done.

[radagast]

Originally Posted by WickyWoo

Quote:
60gb per layer isn't that much more than what Blu does


That's 2.5 times the per-layer of Blu

I know that, but it isn't enough to warrant studios either adding another format to whatever they are releasing now, or scrapping Blu-ray and incurring the costs of new replication facilities, etc. Esp. since the costs of Blu are coming down.

I stand by my statement. Still.

AND BESIDES THAT, BD50 DISCS ARE THE CURRENT TECHNOLOGY. 60 IS ONLY 1.2 TIMES THE STORAGE OF BD50.