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Originally Posted by Beast
I give credit where credit is due. And he's due it in this case. I was one of the most vocal of the people who disliked Titanic as well. So it's not like he can do nothing wrong in my eyes. But for me, Avatar is on top. Better than everything he's done before. And the new bar to meet or exceed.
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Fair enough.
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Originally Posted by Beast
For me... TDK is not stylish, thoughtful, philosophical, well-written, well-acted, or fresh. It was terrible from the moment it began to the moment it ended. You want a good new take on the Batman franchise? Tim Burton already did that in Batman and Batman Returns. All Batman Begins and Dark Knight did, was feel like they were Batman inspired cosplayers in a crappy crime drama. That's not my Batman and will never be my Batman.
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If you acknowledged all (or even some) of the good things about TDK and still said you didn't like it, I could respect that. But you are unable to do so because it's "not my Batman", which is not much of an analysis. Likewise, saying that Avatar is the best movie ever without acknowledging any of its faults doesn't give much credence to your statement.
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I never said that the money it made proved anything. Just that clearly some people felt that it was well written and supported it.
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Well I supported Avatar and contributed to its billions, by watching it in IMAX 3D, by buying the BD, and by recommending that others see it despite its flaws. That doesn't mean I feel it is well-written.
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[*after being asked a simple, honest question by a third party*]
Well, then clearly you're one of the people who don't like the film.
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That's pretty lazy, Beast.
As many have already said, it is okay to have an old story if it is told in a fresh manner. Here are some of the some unique takes in the movie.
1. The Avatar plot device: This is a really cool concept - the idea of controlling a body distinct from your own via technology. Granted, not entirely unique but certainly never explored in such detail and given the emotionally genuine twist of being a paraplegic that cannot walk or run with your original body.
2. The unique setting: Strange exotic planets have been done ad nauseum but Pandora is a unique planet with its own fleshed-out biosphere. Everything from the bioluminescent plants to the flying creatures is spectacular and we have not seen them used in such a cohesive fashion before.
3. The conflicted scientist: Well there is a scientist in just about every sci-fi movie but Weaver's character was authentic in ways most of them are not. Many are either data-gatherers or explorers or evil manipulators etc. etc. Weaver was a conflicted character who was trying to accomplish something new and fantastic for an urgent and moral purpose but found herself caught between two conflicting parties that each had meaning to her. It was a haunting dilemma and the way she ultimately surrendered was actually quite moving.
4. The action: We've all seen hundreds of action movies before and this one definitely set new standards with unique, thrilling action sequences. Enough said.
That's for starters, and this is from someone who thinks the script was weak and the dialogue poorly written. Imagine how much better this movie could have been if all the negatives were done well!
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