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Old 11-08-2007, 07:39 PM   #1
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Honestly, I don't think Blu-Ray discs really need to be "backed up". In the past I could argue that I didn't want my DVD to get scratched by my 3 year old but I don't think this argument holds true anymore. We shouldn't have to worry about this with the awesome protection layer on the BD itself. I rented from Blockbuster the other day & my wife told me that our daughter had the disc in her hand. Fearing that she might scratch the BD and we'd have to buy it, naturally wanted to get it away from her. I told her not to worry and that there's no way she'll scratch it Of course I let her keep it & there isn't even a sign of a scratch on it.
To be short....... BD's don't need to be backed up!
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Old 11-08-2007, 07:53 PM   #2
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Honestly, I don't think Blu-Ray discs really need to be "backed up". In the past I could argue that I didn't want my DVD to get scratched by my 3 year old but I don't think this argument holds true anymore. We shouldn't have to worry about this with the awesome protection layer on the BD itself. I rented from Blockbuster the other day & my wife told me that our daughter had the disc in her hand. Fearing that she might scratch the BD and we'd have to buy it, naturally wanted to get it away from her. I told her not to worry and that there's no way she'll scratch it Of course I let her keep it & there isn't even a sign of a scratch on it.
To be short....... BD's don't need to be backed up!
exactly...

if there was a fire , .theft of the disc. that's what .home owners insurance is for...

with Blu-Ray having that scratch resistance there is not a good enough reason for it anymore ESP. with Blu-Ray since it has this coating in the first place..
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Old 11-10-2007, 04:16 PM   #3
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Honestly, I don't think Blu-Ray discs really need to be "backed up". In the past I could argue that I didn't want my DVD to get scratched by my 3 year old but I don't think this argument holds true anymore. We shouldn't have to worry about this with the awesome protection layer on the BD itself. I rented from Blockbuster the other day & my wife told me that our daughter had the disc in her hand. Fearing that she might scratch the BD and we'd have to buy it, naturally wanted to get it away from her. I told her not to worry and that there's no way she'll scratch it Of course I let her keep it & there isn't even a sign of a scratch on it.
To be short....... BD's don't need to be backed up!
I agree with you..but I also believe until laws are changed they have a legal right to use that argument whether we agree with it or not. Laws have not been updated to the current times for this. If I am not mistaken these are laws from when cassette or VCR tapes were introduced?

The question I would have is how do they determine which technology you should be allowed to back up vs. what you can't? If they do get around to addressing these laws I wonder how they would address the diffrent technolgies, they surely wouldn't have separate laws for each type of technology I don't think.

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Old 11-10-2007, 04:45 PM   #4
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Ok I should have researched more before posting. The DMCA laws addressed the copying of of media. If it is using protection you can not break it so DMCA laws throw out fair use on those products.

They can also take away fair use rights in any license agreements you may have to accept.

So I guess fair use depends on the product you purchase?
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Old 11-10-2007, 05:09 PM   #5
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Funny thing is... Some Hackers got to hack their own software (Slysoft) how do they must feel about it ?

And perhaps hacking Blu its not a good investment while a blank Blu-ray Disc BD-R or BD-RE cost around $25 each one, the same amount for the movie and they have like the BD25

Have you wonder why the DVD-DL still expensive ? or why they havent built a DVD-DL-RW ? piracy wont win with Blu
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Old 11-10-2007, 09:43 PM   #6
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They can also take away fair use rights in any license agreements you may have to accept.
Err.. no they can't. That's the whole point of fair use. It grants the user a basic set of rights that can't be overridden by license agreements and the like. The whole problem with fair use however, is what exactly constitutes fair use - ripping discs and putting them up for download certainly isn't covered. Removing region restrictions could be considered fair use, and making low resolution copies for playback on a video ipod or PSP as well.
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Old 11-11-2007, 12:54 AM   #7
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Probably the only reason. You guys crack me up. Personally I own both formats, but all the cheerleading-"We need/want more DRM on our discs...DRM is good for consumers..." is unbeleivable. Look at DVD and CSS, cracked for years and still the most profitable CE invention in the History of the field? CSS is practically a moot point nowadays, yet there are still millions or billions of DVD's sold every year and the studios rake in the truckloads of cash every day throughout the year.
I guess you rather have the studios not released movies since anyone can steal them.
This is not 1990 anymore, they will just go to downloads if the same thing happens with HDM that happen with DVD.
Plust good luck burning all the movies you rent of whatever, BD-R's are not cheap.

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