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Old 11-09-2007, 07:08 AM   #1
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this hd dvd killing spree seems to be everywhere outside of the USA... how come US is the only place where HD DVD seems to be doing OK...just dont get it
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Old 11-09-2007, 07:12 AM   #2
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i like norway and pie i approve of this thread

i would say the Marketing and the market is much larger in the US then most places so people have brought into HD DVD

in places like Oz there is no ads for HD DVD but there is for blu ray.
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Old 11-09-2007, 07:34 AM   #3
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wow!

the US is more open for hddvd due to a)zealots and b)toshiba giving away huge amounts of disks and players for no profit, only speculating that they will make back the money in future
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Old 11-09-2007, 07:35 AM   #4
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this is about the time HD-DVD says "ah ha I got you right where you want me!" when will they give up on HD-DVD and let the market grow?
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Old 11-09-2007, 07:37 AM   #5
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wow..... it even beats japan's 94.8%

congrats. I hope they'll release UK number as well
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Old 11-09-2007, 07:56 AM   #6
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this is about the time HD-DVD says "ah ha I got you right where you want me!" when will they give up on HD-DVD and let the market grow?
HD DVD = the black knight from monty pythons holy grail
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Old 11-09-2007, 09:06 AM   #7
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this hd dvd killing spree seems to be everywhere outside of the USA... how come US is the only place where HD DVD seems to be doing OK...just dont get it
I could tell you why, but some of my fellow Americans might get a little offended.
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Old 11-09-2007, 09:35 AM   #8
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I could tell you why, but some of my fellow Americans might get a little offended.
but i won't so tell me anyway
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Old 11-09-2007, 10:10 AM   #9
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three cheers for Norway

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Old 11-09-2007, 10:25 AM   #10
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mmmmm, pie
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Old 11-09-2007, 10:34 AM   #11
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I just knew there was a reason I was attacted to my wife (descended from Norwegian immigrants).
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Old 11-09-2007, 11:36 AM   #12
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HD DVD PRG knows that whoever wins in the US wins the world. This is the only fight that matters but it is also their last stand. All their financial resources are brought to bear in this fight in the US, so it is important to never underestimate their capabilities or you could prolong this war unnecessarily.

Otoh, moves that destroy your ability to make a viable business out of future players are overreactions that hurt your format in the long run, so overestimating them too much would also be a self inflicted wound.

If we look at player sales numbers in the next two months after this widely known $98 sale, I think a simple pattern will emerge based on very simple common sense. Noone will pay more for something when he thinks it is worth significantly less, so the $198 price is no longer going to move HD-A2s, they have to try 130 or 129, and Toshiba and their backer would have to be determined to lose a ton of real money other than virtual promotion dollars to keep doing this.

The next time they have a $98 sale, they will sell less, and the time after that they'll have to go below $98. At some point, the value of HD DVD player will be perceived to be the same as an upscaling DVD player.
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Old 11-09-2007, 11:40 AM   #13
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why blue-ray is going so well is only due to the sale off the play station 3. i have 2 friends who have this unit and they dont care about blue-ray movies only about the gaming side.
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Old 11-09-2007, 06:09 PM   #14
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why blue-ray is going so well is only due to the sale off the play station 3. i have 2 friends who have this unit and they dont care about blue-ray movies only about the gaming side.
So blu-ray is only selling well because of PS3 owners, but PS3 owners don't care about blu-ray, only games.

I wilt before your withering logic.
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Old 11-09-2007, 08:52 PM   #15
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So blu-ray is only selling well because of PS3 owners, but PS3 owners don't care about blu-ray, only games.

I wilt before your withering logic.
I think what he is try to say is that - will I don't now exactly. However, Norway (not sure why anyone even cares about this) is currently an extremely small market. Based on their HDM numbers, they are not into either format. Stand alone player sales are next to nothing.

However, as always, PS3 has proven to be the dark horse. Just because those fine people in Norway don't care too much about HDM right now, they do like to play their games and have bought the PS3. Now, while they probably didn't get their PS3 for movies, a portion of them are buying them.

Either way, when we are talking total HDM sales under 100k, Norway is really just a small blip in the BD/HD-DVD race and will probably have no impact at all on the outcome.

Kinda funny how Toshiba selling 100k units in a couple days means nothing, but holy **** - Norway favors Blu ray - time to celebrate.

This does show the power (or potential power) of the PS3 though. The more PS3s in homes (regardless the initial reason for the purchase) will mean more BD sales.
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Old 11-09-2007, 03:56 PM   #16
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Heheh, I like that pie chart!

But come on America! You're letting the whole world down you know.....
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Old 11-09-2007, 10:46 AM   #17
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this hd dvd killing spree seems to be everywhere outside of the USA... how come US is the only place where HD DVD seems to be doing OK...just dont get it
People could try to come up with a million reasons and excuses but it all comes down to only one reason:

because USA is Microsoft's home turf and they will do whatever it takes ($$$).
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Old 11-09-2007, 10:57 AM   #18
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because HD-DVD is region free that is the problem. The ps3 is the key everywhere ells where the market is so low. US market where Hollywood is, is the most important. So many people buy movies over Internet from usa, that reflect in sales over there.
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Old 11-10-2007, 05:24 AM   #19
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Up in Canada, we never got that Hundred Dollar HD-DVD player deal, and from what I've seen, especially when i used to sell blu-ray adn HD-DVD's, blu-ray is outselling them by a lot, when i go into sotres like walmart, future shop, i see their HD-DVDs stacked upto god only knows where, but tehy're in the back because they can't sell the ones in the front. the Blu-rays, i actually had some that i couldn't keep on the shelf because they went so fast (casino royale especially).

So..i dunno...but it looks pretty swayed towards Blu-ray, atleast in BC, and everybody in Canada knows We westerners are competely different than the east

Also, E-Dogg is right, the american dollar has come down, the Canadian Dollar is higher than it now, but that's not only because the american dollar came down, our dollar became stronger, Compared to the GBP. This why so many of Us come down there to do some shopping! I know I am, Get me the Masters of Horror Series for about $30 cheaper down there, and also need a camera, and some other things

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Old 11-10-2007, 07:36 AM   #20
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Well done Mission accomplished!!! but the wars not over.
Now we need a pie chart for what % of Bd sales versus other countries
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