Kelly's Heroes / Where Eagles Dare Discussion Thread ($9.99 on AMZ now)

[aggienader08]

Originally Posted by Capt Mainwaring

I have just purchased a Where Eagles Dare Blu ray in England . I am very very disappointed. In my opinion it is no better than my DVD copy.
This Blu ray only contains Where Eagles Dare so different from the 2 film US release?
It seems to me that the producers have used the same print as was released on DVD. No effort seems to have been made to clean it up or remaster.
I fail to understand why such a good film has been released in this way. What a waste of time and money!!

We have a major difference of opinion, because I thought it looked quite good and a giant leap better than my DVD copy. Was it reference? Absolutely not. Was it worth the money I laid down for it!? Absolutely!

If you feel the way you do, then you must not be happy with a lot of your movies.

[Capt Mainwaring]

Originally Posted by aggienader08

We have a major difference of opinion, because I thought it looked quite good and a giant leap better than my DVD copy. Was it reference? Absolutely not. Was it worth the money I laid down for it!? Absolutely!

If you feel the way you do, then you must not be happy with a lot of your movies.

I am happy with most of my Blu Rays. I recently purchased North By Northwest and it is stunning. Similarly Dirty Harry is much much better than the DVD and The Dam Busters is absolutely amazing.

[Duffy12]

Originally Posted by Capt Mainwaring

...and The Dam Busters is absolutely amazing.

Man, I would LOVE to get that one, however it is region B locked!


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[HD Goofnut]

Just got through with Where Eagles Dare and I was rather impressed. Grain was intact and no DNR was applied. There was of course a small amount of dirt on the print and the effects shots were much more evident, but other than those two things it was a solid presentation.

[Capt Mainwaring]

Originally Posted by HD Goofnut

Just got through with Where Eagles Dare and I was rather impressed. Grain was intact and no DNR was applied. There was of course a small amount of dirt on the print and the effects shots were much more evident, but other than those two things it was a solid presentation.

Maybe the US version is different to the one released in England, because my copy is def not so good!
Friends have looked at it and agree.
Oh well, I'll just have to wait for a remastered BD to be issued over here

[KubrickFan]

Originally Posted by Capt Mainwaring

Maybe the US version is different to the one released in England, because my copy is def not so good!
Friends have looked at it and agree.
Oh well, I'll just have to wait for a remastered BD to be issued over here

They're the same.

[LeoneFan]

Are the UK releases for these two films region free? I looked around but couldn't find a definite answer, even looked at the back cover image and there is no region coding mentioned. If these are region free and the exact same as the US discs then I'd like to import them, if anyone has a definite answer please let me know.

[Joe Bond]

Originally Posted by Capt Mainwaring

Maybe the US version is different to the one released in England, because my copy is def not so good!
Friends have looked at it and agree.
Oh well, I'll just have to wait for a remastered BD to be issued over here

Here is the thing that I don't understand. I have seen similar complaints that the transfer is soft. I agree that it is rather soft but I think its due to the amount of dupe shots/sections that are used in the film. I'm no expert on this subject but I assume that a dupe shot/section is a bad quality shot or section of a film that replaces footage in a negative of the film. If this is the case and I do believe it is then there really isn't anything a restoration can do unless they find better quality sections to replace the dupe shots which I think is probably unlikely. Thats why I think its so soft. Another example is The Guns of Navarone which according to the restoration documentary on the newest DVD release had a really sharp Technicolor print for the film's premiere but when the movie was readied for its theatrical release the color was converted to Eastman color and dupe sections replaced sharp footage in the original negative. If you think Where Eagles Dare looks soft wait until the Blu-ray of The Guns of Navarone comes out will look as soft for more of the movie since their are a lot of dupes used. The other thing is that the color timing of the Blu-ray for Where Eagles Dare and Kelly's Heroes is different from their DVD's and it looks better IMO.