shipped/sold dark red degrees of a circle thing

[BluOgre]

Originally Posted by xbd

Those numbers are accurate in terms of 360 sales.

Originally Posted by xbd

You both are confused. This is the statement I was originally responding to:

X360 in mid december 2006 at 9.5 M and now at 13.00 M : only 3.5 M in 10.5 months??? ridiculous

By bringing up the Microsoft financials, I was highlighting that indeed the total 360 sell-through to this point is in the vicinity of ~13 million, and that the figures in contention were not "ridiculous." I think in that vein, citing financials/shipped figures is very much a solid, 100% factual way of laying the doubt to rest.

All this talk of NPDs and third-parties, besides not even being what I was speaking to in the first place (rather simply showing how the cap is indeed ~13 million), IMO serves as a gateway to a conversation that is ultimately a waste of time. That being a gaming/NPD conversation.

If you look for example at my posts after the claim of Spider-man over 200k were made, I think you'll find that I am first in line among those that seek the 'real' stats, so there's no need to worry about whether or not I understand shipped, sold, and other such nuances.

Ok if you want to get technical to what I was refering to:

Quote:
Originally Posted by TheTenth
"do the Nielsen numbers give the hardware sales? PS3, X360, Wii because nexgenwars and VGchartz don't seem right (X360 in mid december 2006 at 9.5 M and now at 13.00 M : only 3.5 M in 10.5 months??? ridiculous)
if not any reliable site on hardware numbers? "

Your answer:

"Those numbers are accurate in terms of 360 sales."


Then you go on to say start quoting shipping numbers and NOT sales. That is what my problem with your comment was about. The original question you answered was about the reliablity of X360 having sold only 3.5 million units this year from retailers to customers.....not 3.5 million units being shipped from MS to retailers.

The original question was trying to compare sites that track sales in hadware like Nielsen tracks software sales. Nielsen DOESN'T track what was shipped. That's why I said if you want to deal with actual sales like Nielsen you can't go by what MS says they shipped in the finanicals.

I don't care how close you think the sales are to shipped they are NOT exact. The only console you could probably equate shipped to being retail sales is the Wii. That's only because it sells immidately. X360 and PS3 do not have this wonderful problem.