The Avatar Blu-ray Release Thread

[Suntory_Times]

Originally Posted by dvdvision

Funny Cameron now says the TC will be included in the SE, whereas the Fox release doesn't mention it presence. I guess we will have to wait and see more info.



You can't compare because when Gone With The Wind was released, there was no TV, videogames, DVDs, BDs, VHS, Betamax, internet and internet downloads, so people had no choice but to see it on the big screen.

Movies attendance was way higher than it is now, because of the above mentioned medias that now take away from the supremacy movies had then. So the Avatar achievement stands as it is.

Plus in terms of worldwide tickets sold it is number 3 of all time, which is simply astonishing.

[luciano24]

Will it drop in price ever? I hope it does when the special edition comes out.

[Batman1980]

Some people got it for $5 with coupon about a month after it came out, I got it for $14 on release date.

[luciano24]

I wasn't aware of coupons are there any that are left?

[Batman1980]

Originally Posted by luciano24

I wasn't aware of coupons are there any that are left?

Considering I haven't heard of them in quite awhile I imagine they expired long ago.

[DetroitSportsFan]

Everyone make sure you buy the collector's edition, so Cameron can raise enough money to finish that 45 minutes of extra footage and triple dip us.

[DRS]

Originally Posted by DetroitSportsFan

Everyone make sure you buy the collector's edition, so Cameron can raise enough money to finish that 45 minutes of extra footage and triple dip us.

If that were to happen, it would be one of the few times where I wouldn't mind being triple dipped

[Spike Killer]

Originally Posted by DetroitSportsFan

Everyone make sure you buy the collector's edition, so Cameron can raise enough money to finish that 45 minutes of extra footage and triple dip us.

How many millions do you think it would cost to finish the footage. I'm guessing 15 or so million.

[DetroitSportsFan]

Originally Posted by Spike Killer

How many millions do you think it would cost to finish the footage. I'm guessing 15 or so million.

No idea. Maybe more?

[DRS]

Originally Posted by Spike Killer

How many millions do you think it would cost to finish the footage. I'm guessing 15 or so million.

It depends on what the ratio is of pure Pandora scenes and scenes that take place on the human bases.

It could possibly cost upwards of 20 million, or as low as 10.

[MrSlr]

Cameron said in a recent interview about the limited run in theaters that each minute of CG footage was a million dollars. So 9 million give or take for the LE footage.. Heck even the earth scene which had live action people cost a bit over a million bucks..

so lets say the 45 minutes unfinished CG footage is probably around 35-40 million dollars.. Definately understandable why he isnt doing it, plus it would take along while to finish it.

[Batman1980]

Originally Posted by MrSlr

Cameron said in a recent interview about the limited run in theaters that each minute of CG footage was a million dollars. So 9 million give or take for the LE footage.. Heck even the earth scene which had live action people cost a bit over a million bucks..

so lets say the 45 minutes unfinished CG footage is probably around 35-40 million dollars.. Definately understandable why he isnt doing it, plus it would take along while to finish it.

One minute of footage is $1,000,000? No wonder the movie had such a huge budget.

[Beast]

Originally Posted by luciano24

Will it drop in price ever? I hope it does when the special edition comes out.

It's more likely to be discontinued. As that's what's been reported is the plan.

[Jimmy Smith]

Id love to here him justify how Cameron can constantly demonize capitalism when he nickle and dimes his fans to death. So on November 16th we have to buy both a Panasonic television to get the movie in its proper 3D format since that version will almost certainly be bare-bones we have to buy the collecters edition to get the extras. I mean is there any real justification for the collecters edition being 2D only other then to make more money. If he wants to demonize corperations persuit of profit (as Avatar clearly does) why does he start by parking his private jet and then releasing a 3D version for general sale in November.

[DRS]

Originally Posted by Jimmy Smith

Id love to here him justify how Cameron can constantly demonize capitalism when he nickle and dimes his fans to death. So on November 16th we have to buy both a Panasonic television to get the movie in its proper 3D format since that version will almost certainly be bare-bones we have to buy the collecters edition to get the extras. I mean is there any real justification for the collecters edition being 2D only other then to make more money. If he wants to demonize corperations persuit of profit (as Avatar clearly does) why does he start by parking his private jet and then releasing a 3D version for general sale in November.

You don't HAVE to buy anything.

Hes not making ANYONE buy a 3DTV.

The amount of people with 3D TVs is Miniscule at best. Including a 3D disc in the Collectors edition would simply inflate the cost and include a coaster for most people buying it.

[TheWildWhelk]

Originally Posted by Gandalf Stormcrow

One minute of footage is $1,000,000? No wonder the movie had such a huge budget.

Mithrandir, i think it was close to that for the waterlogged finale of POTC: At Worlds End. As for finishing the extra material, why not render it at 1080p resolution rather than 4K?

[bytor]

Originally Posted by Jimmy Smith

Id love to here him justify how Cameron can constantly demonize capitalism when he nickle and dimes his fans to death. So on November 16th we have to buy both a Panasonic television to get the movie in its proper 3D format since that version will almost certainly be bare-bones we have to buy the collecters edition to get the extras. I mean is there any real justification for the collecters edition being 2D only other then to make more money. If he wants to demonize corperations persuit of profit (as Avatar clearly does) why does he start by parking his private jet and then releasing a 3D version for general sale in November.

I agree completely. The milking they're doing with all these different versions goes completely against the anti-capitalism of the movie. Don't get me wrong, I like the movie, but does Cameron even realize the irony of it?

Originally Posted by DRS

You don't HAVE to buy anything.

Hes not making ANYONE buy a 3DTV.

The amount of people with 3D TVs is Miniscule at best. Including a 3D disc in the Collectors edition would simply inflate the cost and include a coaster for most people buying it.

I wouldn't say miniscule. There are already a fair number of people with them, myself included. Mitsubishi has been making 3D ready DLPs for a few years now. There's no reason for them not to release it now in 3D other than greed, pure and simple.

[Jimmy Smith]

Originally Posted by DRS

You don't HAVE to buy anything.

Hes not making ANYONE buy a 3DTV.

The amount of people with 3D TVs is Miniscule at best. Including a 3D disc in the Collectors edition would simply inflate the cost and include a coaster for most people buying it.

But if you want it in 3D you do HAVE to buy something. Avatar will have a separate most likley barebones 3D version sold in November exclusively with Panasonic 3D televisions. If you already own a 3DTV or buy a different brand your stuck in with 2D until sometime in 2011. Given how important 3D was to Avatars theatrical success I see this as a shame.

The fact that you say "include a 3D disc" proves you don't know how 3D Blu-Rays are encoded. Unlike older red/blue anaglyph 3D discs the new 3D standard allows 2D versions to be encoded within the 3D version and would not need to be separately encoded. Every 3D movie is made up of two eye views a main eye view which is essencially a 2D version identical to what is being released in this set and secondary eye view that encodes the defference between the right and left eye and adds on average 50% more information to the movie which is why 3D Blu-Rays can have peak bitrates of 60 megabits per second instead of the 40 2D Blu-Rays can go to. In any 2D player the main eye stream is feed to the player and the secondary stream is simply ignored. This process worked flawlessly for Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs 3D Blu-Ray which plays in 2D in all Blu-Ray players just fine. Disney is separately encoding A Christmas Carol only because in order to give the set more percieved value which they believe will increase sales.

True the higher bitrates 3D requires would likely mean Avatar would be spread over two discs. Simply adding a secondary eye view ontop of the 2D encode would have a file size of 70 gigabytes. But I see this as an opportunity add video commentaries to the set which won't fit on one disc even without the 3D. Using 2 discs seems totally worth it to me.

[shinseiRomeo]

Originally Posted by bytor

I wouldn't say miniscule. There are already a fair number of people with them, myself included. Mitsubishi has been making 3D ready DLPs for a few years now. There's no reason for them not to release it now in 3D other than greed, pure and simple.

At the risk of sounding ignorant, aren't the old Mitsu DLPs not true 3D TVs that rely on old technology, ala red/blue glasses?

[DRS]

Avatar in 3D on blu-ray won't be available until 2011, its not coming out in November.