The Avatar Blu-ray Release Thread

[Beast]

Originally Posted by Jimmy Smith

Maybe but its important to continue reminding people we are being scewed and milked to death.

How exactly?

James Cameron outright stated before the barebones edition was released, that in November you would have the option of buying the Collector's Edition that would come with an extended cut of the film and tons of extras. And that the home 3-D version was a ways off. It was people's choice to either buy the barebones release, or have some damn patience and just buy the CE. Nobody is being screwed or milked over these releases. They were told well in advance the facts. If they still chose to buy the barebones release and are now crying about it, it's their own goddamn fault.

[Jimmy Smith]

Originally Posted by Beast

How exactly?

James Cameron outright stated before the barebones edition was released, that in November you would have the option of buying the Collector's Edition that would come with an extended cut of the film and tons of extras. And that the home 3-D version was a ways off. It was people's choice to either buy the barebones release, or have some damn patience and just buy the CE. Nobody is being screwed or milked over these releases. They were told well in advance the facts. If they still chose to buy the barebones release and are now crying about it, it's their own goddamn fault.

Why make us wait? Why wait till 2011?

Is there a single damn reason the November release can't include a 3D version. Is there any? There isn't except well to get more double dips

Also the issue of hypocracy is what bothers me. How does a Cameron justify demonize greed while acting so greedy himself. Practice what you preach buddy.

So far we have 4 total Blu-Ray versions of Avatar on the way

1. 2D, theatrical edition, barebones release - April 2010 (anyone who bought this one wasted there money big time)
2. 2D multie disc extended release - November 2010
3. 3D Panasonic exclusive barebones release - November 2010
4. 3D special edition release - sometime in 2011

If the November release included a 3D version as it damn well should that would be two versions eliminated from the list. That would be alot of unnessesary waiting or double dipping averted.

[Beast]

Originally Posted by Jimmy Smith

Why make us wait? Why wait till 2011?

Likely because JC believes, and rightly so... that 3D TVs don't have enough consumer penetration as of yet to waste time on a 3D release. And putting one in the CE release would basically be an extra disc that a lot of people would have no use for. You see people crying and whining constantly about DVD or Digital Copies of films they don't need or want. Imagine that with a 3D copy people can't use.

Is there a single damn reason the November release can't include a 3D version. Is there any? There isn't except well to get more double dips

Again, see the reason above. Which is a logical enough reason.
Or the fact that the disc would increase the cost of the set.

Also the issue of hypocracy is what bothers me. How does a Cameron justify demonize greed while acting so greedy himself. Practice what you preach buddy.

Me thinks you're missing the point and message of Avatar quite a bit here.
I don't think James Cameron is personally destroying nature in his quest to release a movie.

So far we have 4 total Blu-Ray versions of Avatar on the way

1. 2D, theatrical edition, barebones release - April 2010 (anyone who bought this one wasted there money big time)
2. 2D multie disc extended release - November 2010
3. 3D Panasonic exclusive barebones release - November 2010
4. 3D special edition release - sometime in 2011

And? Your point is? And I don't think the 3rd release is even confirmed last I heard.

And no, nobody wasted their money buying the first release. I for one bought it cause it was a good deal and I loved the film. So have enjoyed it way more than would have been possible with just renting the film. Plus the fact that the first release will likely still have the best picture, since it's not weighted down with alternate cuts, commentaries, or extras. But either way, people were told in advance what the facts of the release were.

If the November release included a 3D version as it damn well should that would be two versions eliminated from the list. That would be alot of unnessesary waiting or double dipping averted.

And again, there's no real sense to include it in this particular release.

[DRS]

Plus, including 3D would only unfairly jack up the price of the Collectors Edition. Its a feature 95% of people wouldn't be able to use, so why bother. (look at Disneys Christmas Carol and its $50 MSRP. Avatar CE with 3D would be even more expensive, I guarantee you)

Releasing the 3D version seperately is just the smart thing to do.

[RipleyLV426]

I'm just glad I waited for the Nov release and wasn't suckered into the bare bones release. Actually I haven't seen it at home on blu ray yet, not since I saw it in theatres.

[Beast]

Originally Posted by RipleyLV426

I'm just glad I waited for the Nov release and wasn't suckered into the bare bones release. Actually I haven't seen it at home on blu ray yet, not since I saw it in theatres.

I don't feel suckered myself. Since again, I love the movie a lot. But I agree, it's nice that people knew the facts ahead of time.

[Q?]

So will the November release feature the theatrical cut as well?

[Beast]

Originally Posted by Q!

So will the November release feature the theatrical cut as well?

It appears that it will. I almost wouldn't mind if it wasn't included though. Since I have the first release.

[Q?]

Originally Posted by Beast

It appears that it will. I almost wouldn't mind if it wasn't included though. Since I have the first release.

I didn't get the first release, but I guess it doesn't really matter for me anyways, I'd watch the extended cut only anyways...

[Atreyu]

Originally Posted by dvdvision

You can't compare because when Gone With The Wind was released, there was no TV, videogames, DVDs, BDs, VHS, Betamax, internet and internet downloads, so people had no choice but to see it on the big screen.

Yes you can compare because when GWTW was released in 1939 there were a helluva lot less people in the world.
Bottom line is GWTW still holds the record for ticket sales and Avatar does not even come close.
With that said I love Avatar, I love it more than GWTW, but we must give credit where credit is due.

[DRS]

Originally Posted by Atreyu

Yes you can compare because when GWTW was released in 1939 there were a helluva lot less people in the world.
Bottom line is GWTW still holds the record for ticket sales and Avatar does not even come close.
With that said I love Avatar, I love it more than GWTW, but we must give credit where credit is due.

It took about 3-4 re-releases for GWTW to sell as many tickets as Avatar had on its first release.

[GunRanger]

Originally Posted by Atreyu

Yes you can compare because when GWTW was released in 1939 there were a helluva lot less people in the world.
Bottom line is GWTW still holds the record for ticket sales and Avatar does not even come close.
With that said I love Avatar, I love it more than GWTW, but we must give credit where credit is due.

And movies stayed in theaters longer, people went to the theaters more because it was cheaper, and there were little alternative entertainment outlets. Why ignore that?

[Zydrate]

Originally Posted by Beast

It appears that it will. I almost wouldn't mind if it wasn't included though. Since I have the first release.

When do you think we will get confirmation about it? Would save me a bit of money if it has both cuts of the film.

[Jimmy Smith]

Originally Posted by Beast

Me thinks you're missing the point and message of Avatar quite a bit here.
I don't think James Cameron is personally destroying nature in his quest to release a movie.

Really what about all the electricity needed to keep Wetas huge render farms going 24 hours a day for many years to render Avatars amazing effects? What about all the pollution produced flying the filmmakers and stars to there premires and shooting locations? All that was more carbon admitted into the air then you or I will ommitt in a lifetime. If you believe as I do that the so called Climate crisis is a load of crap its fine, but I don't know how anyone who demonizes the corporate growth and the need to collect energy justifies this as Ok.

Again every single aspect of James Cameron screams DO AS I SAY NOT AS I DO. He lectures us on living with less while he spends hundreds of millions to produce a movie that won't save a single tree and ranks in hundreds of millions that he proudly keeps to himself.

[Jimmy Smith]

Also lets not forget according to James Cameron DVDs are wasteful

He says its more environmentally friendly to simply transfer digital media. REALLY!?!?!?!?!?!?

The guy who is releasing Avatar in 4 DIFFERENT BLU-RAY VERSIONS is concerned about the waste that discs make

REALLY
REALLY

[DRS]

You sure do like to get worked up over utterly insignificant things.

[Baloo]

Originally Posted by Jimmy Smith

Really what about all the electricity needed to keep Wetas huge render farms going 24 hours a day for many years to render Avatars amazing effects? What about all the pollution produced flying the filmmakers and stars to there premires and shooting locations?

This is rather laughable. So i suppose one should never make a film with a poignant environmental message about conserving the place that sustains all life. I also suppose one should never aim to reach mass audiences around the world with said film and message, and that when all is said and done one should never give the public clearly stated options if they choose to purchase.

a movie that won't save a single tree and ranks in hundreds of millions that he proudly keeps to himself.

Not quite true being as they've set out to plant a million of them. Of course they could do more, but this alone is better than most.

[bytor]

Originally Posted by Beast

Likely because JC believes, and rightly so... that 3D TVs don't have enough consumer penetration as of yet to waste time on a 3D release. And putting one in the CE release would basically be an extra disc that a lot of people would have no use for. You see people crying and whining constantly about DVD or Digital Copies of films they don't need or want. Imagine that with a 3D copy people can't use.

I hear this argument a lot and I'm sorry, but it makes no sense. What exactly is going to get people to go out and buy a 3DTV? Certainly none of these half-ass movies they have out now. Avatar will be one of the main driving forces to get people to buy 3DTV's. They just need to release the damn thing in 3D instead of milking us, that's all it comes down to. The rest will fall into place.

[DRS]

Originally Posted by bytor

I hear this argument a lot and I'm sorry, but it makes no sense. What exactly is going to get people to go out and buy a 3DTV? Certainly none of these half-ass movies they have out now. Avatar will be one of the main driving forces to get people to buy 3DTV's. They just need to release the damn thing in 3D instead of milking us, that's all it comes down to. The rest will fall into place.

The average Joe isn't going to buy a TV for one movie, even if it is Avatar.

Theres no reason to release Avatar on 3D blu-ray until at least 2012, when there will be a larger line of Pure and native 3D movies on the market to entice consumers.

[Jimmy Smith]

Originally Posted by Baloo

This is rather laughable. So i suppose one should never make a film with a poignant environmental message about conserving the place that sustains all life. I also suppose one should never aim to reach mass audiences around the world with said film and message, and that when all is said and done one should never give the public clearly stated options if they choose to purchase.

Im just pointing out that creating movies especially movies on Avatars massive scale require energy to produce. While Cameron is content to demonize them and potray corperatations searching for energy as the spawn of Satan the fact remains that it took alot of resources and alot of carbon emissions to make this movie. The energy used to run Wetas renderfarms had to come from either nuclear power or fossil fuels which were found or produced by big corperations. What is Hollywood except a collection of big corperations that do everything and anything to make money. Seems to me Cameron has alot more in common with the human mercenaries in Avatar then he does to Jake or the Navi.

By releasing Avatar in mutiple versions ensures that alot more discs will wind up in landfulls poluting our world. Discs that could have been saved if Avatar was released in 3D now