Why was I underwhelmed by Beowulf in 3D? - Blu-ray Forum

airwedge1 · 12-07-2007, 05:10 PM

Some dude at work was flanting that Angelina Jolie was naked through almost the whole thing, and it turned him on. I told him the everything was CG, and he was embarrassed. He didn't even realize it somehow. I haven't seen it, but I immediately noticed that the characters looked CG, however, they did do an awfully good job with it. It seems like they had the actors in the full body suit type thing to do the movie. That doesn't make sense to me for a movie, why not just film it? Seems retarded.

tron3 · 12-07-2007, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by airwedge1

... I immediately noticed that the characters looked CG, however, they did do an awfully good job with it. It seems like they had the actors in the full body suit type thing to do the movie. That doesn't make sense to me for a movie, why not just film it? Seems retarded.

CGI lets you do things with the face and body which may be difficult to do with conventional makeup, and physical limits of the person. In part, it might have been an experiment in the next generation of movie making.

I'm showing my age, but I recall an episode of the Superfriends in the 1970's. There was a professor showing the marvels of computers. He even said that one day TV actors will be replaced with digital images on the computer screen.

I never forgot that, and today we see it is often true, and not just with animation. Many actors have digital stunt doubles.

ahaxton · 12-07-2007, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by tron3

CGI lets you do things with the face and body which may be difficult to do with conventional makeup, and physical limits of the person. In part, it might have been an experiment in the next generation of movie making.

I'm showing my age, but I recall an episode of the Superfriends in the 1970's. There was a professor showing the marvels of computers. He even said that one day TV actors will be replaced with digital images on the computer screen.

I never forgot that, and today we see it is often true, and not just with animation. Many actors have digital stunt doubles.

Actors will never be replaced with computer images no matter how advanced the CGI is thats for sure besides when necessary for real life limitations and what not.

frenchglen · 12-07-2007, 05:38 PM

Yes maybe that's also a part of it - the motion capture in Beowulf is crap, compared to gollum - and compared to what it should ideally achieve. I want to see Anthony Hopkins' real face, not some digital one that hasn't been given all the emotion that the actor shows when performing it.

Maybe they didn't have enough time/money to do it as good as gollum, but sorry, that's not good enough. Either work out a way to do it, or stick to live action-based filming.

Besides, I'd prefer seeing the actor's faces anyway - that's what they're there for -to be in the picture!

buckshot · 12-07-2007, 05:45 PM

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CGI lets you do things with the face and body which may be difficult to do with conventional makeup, and physical limits of the person. In part, it might have been an experiment in the next generation of movie making.
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cgi does amazing things. like removing the effects of gravity on angelina. i've said it before, but tis still true.

WickyWoo · 12-07-2007, 05:49 PM

The subtelty of the 3-D awas the best part, that they kept it down to a half dozen or so "loook threeee deeeee!" parts

The depth it added was mindblowing

If you thought that was violent, you should read the original poem.

Banjo · 12-07-2007, 05:51 PM

Avatar is the one I'm really looking forward to.

Mr. Joshua · 12-07-2007, 06:04 PM

I didn't like Beowulf and Grendel so I will probably pass on this as well. Anyone want my copy of Beowulf and Grendel. I'll sell it cheap. They just played off Gerard Butler being in 300 and I bit the hook... Crap it all to hades...

sarnell2 · 12-07-2007, 06:13 PM

I think 3D animated movies are only good for comedy / kid movies.

miokti · 12-07-2007, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by wsciv123

I didn't like Beowulf and Grendel so I will probably pass on this as well. Anyone want my copy of Beowulf and Grendel. I'll sell it cheap. They just played off Gerard Butler being in 300 and I bit the hook... Crap it all to hades...

I rented this movie to make sure if I wanted the blu. Sorry, but I was severely disappointed. It's in the level of a Uwe Bol movie.

tofur69 · 12-07-2007, 06:19 PM

The theatre I run has Beowulf (2 screens 35mm and 1 screen RealD). The general concensus has been "meh". Most of my assistants and staff have also said the same thing. I have been working in movie theatres for over 21 years and it is always the same...pretty special effects and visusal gimmicks do not make a movie good (just ask George Lucas about Episode 1). Our RealD presentation is close to flawless (IMAX gets a slight edge due to screen size) and the movie did look darn purty however the stiff MoCap, acting and dialogue made it fall flat. However, Zemickis was the best person for the job but I don't think he could have saved this project because these veteran actors were stuck on a sound stage with no set and they could not be spontaneous.

ahaxton · 12-07-2007, 05:17 PM

I was wanting to see the movie, but when I heard it was animated, I said forget that. BORING.

I don't know why go into all the trouble of all that motion capture crap.

john_nemesh · 12-07-2007, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by ahaxton

I was wanting to see the movie, but when I heard it was animated,-+ I said forget that. BORING.

I don't know why go into all the trouble of all that motion capture crap.

You really should see the movie! while not perfect, the animation is some of the best out there and the 3D

davidxiphoid · 12-07-2007, 11:02 PM

I went with three friends and we all thought it was pretty kick ass. The animation was absolutely breathtaking in spots and the 3d was awesome, especially the last half hour of the movie (dragon).

If your not into wizardry, sorcery, fantasy type stuff this probably won't win you over but if your even remotely interested in any type of fantasy and 3-d I highly recommend it.

There was tons of gore. so much so I was kinda surprised it got a pg-13 and not an R. There were some very comedic moments in it that I think were supposed to be just that (phallus blocking anyone?) And I don't care what you think of me...Angelina WAS hot cg or not in that movie. lol!

thumb up!

12-07-2007, 05:10 PM	#1
airwedge1 Active Member Member since:Apr 2007	Some dude Some dude at work was flanting that Angelina Jolie was naked through almost the whole thing, and it turned him on. I told him the everything was CG, and he was embarrassed. He didn't even realize it somehow. I haven't seen it, but I immediately noticed that the characters looked CG, however, they did do an awfully good job with it. It seems like they had the actors in the full body suit type thing to do the movie. That doesn't make sense to me for a movie, why not just film it? Seems retarded.

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12-07-2007, 05:38 PM	#4
frenchglen Active Member Member since:Nov 2006	Yes maybe that's also a part of it - the motion capture in Beowulf is crap, compared to gollum - and compared to what it should ideally achieve. I want to see Anthony Hopkins' real face, not some digital one that hasn't been given all the emotion that the actor shows when performing it. Maybe they didn't have enough time/money to do it as good as gollum, but sorry, that's not good enough. Either work out a way to do it, or stick to live action-based filming. Besides, I'd prefer seeing the actor's faces anyway - that's what they're there for -to be in the picture!

12-07-2007, 05:49 PM	#6
WickyWoo Blu-ray Champion Member since:May 2007 Trading Score:2	The subtelty of the 3-D awas the best part, that they kept it down to a half dozen or so "loook threeee deeeee!" parts The depth it added was mindblowing If you thought that was violent, you should read the original poem.

12-07-2007, 05:51 PM	#7
Banjo Blu-ray Guru Member since:Dec 2006 Location:Ontario, Canada Blu-ray collection:143	Avatar is the one I'm really looking forward to.

12-07-2007, 06:04 PM	#8
Mr. Joshua Blu-ray Guru Member since:May 2007 Home Theater Gallery:6 Blu-ray collection:153	I didn't like Beowulf and Grendel so I will probably pass on this as well. Anyone want my copy of Beowulf and Grendel. I'll sell it cheap. They just played off Gerard Butler being in 300 and I bit the hook... Crap it all to hades...

12-07-2007, 06:13 PM	#9
sarnell2 Active Member Member since:Jun 2007	I think 3D animated movies are only good for comedy / kid movies.

12-07-2007, 06:19 PM	#11
tofur69 Active Member Member since:Jan 2007 Location:Westminster, CO	The theatre I run has Beowulf (2 screens 35mm and 1 screen RealD). The general concensus has been "meh". Most of my assistants and staff have also said the same thing. I have been working in movie theatres for over 21 years and it is always the same...pretty special effects and visusal gimmicks do not make a movie good (just ask George Lucas about Episode 1). Our RealD presentation is close to flawless (IMAX gets a slight edge due to screen size) and the movie did look darn purty however the stiff MoCap, acting and dialogue made it fall flat. However, Zemickis was the best person for the job but I don't think he could have saved this project because these veteran actors were stuck on a sound stage with no set and they could not be spontaneous.

12-07-2007, 05:17 PM	#12
ahaxton Banned Member since:Nov 2007 Trading Score:1	I was wanting to see the movie, but when I heard it was animated, I said forget that. BORING. I don't know why go into all the trouble of all that motion capture crap.

12-07-2007, 11:02 PM	#14
davidxiphoid Special Member Member since:May 2007 Location:I live in D.C. Blu-ray collection:88 Trading Score:47	I went with three friends and we all thought it was pretty kick ass. The animation was absolutely breathtaking in spots and the 3d was awesome, especially the last half hour of the movie (dragon). If your not into wizardry, sorcery, fantasy type stuff this probably won't win you over but if your even remotely interested in any type of fantasy and 3-d I highly recommend it. There was tons of gore. so much so I was kinda surprised it got a pg-13 and not an R. There were some very comedic moments in it that I think were supposed to be just that (phallus blocking anyone?) And I don't care what you think of me...Angelina WAS hot cg or not in that movie. lol! thumb up!

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