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Old 12-12-2007, 12:34 PM   #1
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I was just wondering how many people out there would rather download HD movies over owning a disc.

I personally rather own the disc for many reasons. Some being the time it take to download, the storage capacity limitations and the fact that you would still need to burn a copy to let someone borrow it.

I was just wonering what everyone's take on this. I would have done a poll but I did not know how too.
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Old 12-12-2007, 12:41 PM   #2
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No downloading for me think you. I like buying the movies I love.I like having my movies sitting on my shelf and being able to watch them anytime I want.And since I paid for it I dont need to pay to watch them again and again. With downloading you will probably have to pay each time you want to watch a movie-I'm I right?
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Old 12-12-2007, 12:42 PM   #3
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I'd rather own the disc also. You never know what might happen to a hard drive. Downloading, like many have said, is very far off. Hard drives are getting cheaper by the day but the ability to download at high speeds is not available to everyone and who knows how long it would take to download a movie in HD. I would have though B&M stores would have commented on this, I would think that it would hit hard to lose all their movie sales.
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Old 12-12-2007, 12:46 PM   #4
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I must have the physical disc.

If your data storage ever took a bomb and you didn't have a backup you'd be SOL. Or have to go through all the trouble of having to re-download your entire library. No thanks!

Imagine this each movie were 30-50Gigs now lets say you have a library of 250-300 movies. We would all have to have a server rack in our basements!
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Old 12-12-2007, 12:51 PM   #5
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I too want the packaged disc. I believe there are enough of us to keep packaged media alive even if/when downloads become quicker and popular.

I may use downloads for some things, but for movies that I really love I want the disc.
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Old 12-12-2007, 12:54 PM   #6
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I must have the physical disc.

If your data storage ever took a bomb and you didn't have a backup you'd be SOL. Or have to go through all the trouble of having to re-download your entire library. No thanks!

Imagine this each movie were 30-50Gigs now lets say you have a library of 250-300 movies. We would all have to have a server rack in our basements!
now we all know that is not going to happen. When Microsoft finally finalizes their evil plan and uses the poor HD-DVD camp to crush Blu Ray and optical media in general - we will get 1GB uber compressed HD movies. But hey! That dosent matter, because the SUPER EFFICIENT, better than AVC and "we-dont-need-high-bitrates" codec VC-1 is going to do miracles.
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Old 12-12-2007, 12:56 PM   #7
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Discs for me! Ever download a song from itunes and it sounds like crap (technically they all do since they're sonically crushed)? That's what downloaded movies will be like.
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Old 12-12-2007, 12:57 PM   #8
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it took me about 2 full days to download Transformer hd-dvd (26gb) on 3mbps line. i don't want to do it again.

btw, is hd-dvd pip features not full fps ?
i download transformer to test my powerdvd to see if my system is smooth enough and was trying out their much boasted pip and i feel the movie playing at full fps while the pip look like skipping frame (although is only a very small little sd windows blocking the main movie).
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Old 12-12-2007, 01:01 PM   #9
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Disk media will never die, you can't ebay a download or lend a download to a friend. Also if you look at old vinyl records and 8 tracks there are still collectors for them. A download is the ultimate ripoff, it is like all windows OS, you have a license to use it but never really own it. Screw any more ideas like that for the future.
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Old 12-12-2007, 01:05 PM   #10
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Not for me, either. I just posted this in another thread.
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Old 12-12-2007, 01:09 PM   #11
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There are a lot of factors to look into here. It will be a while until the download functionality is where it should be. Are you paying for the full movie or are you renting it for a one time viewing. I know a lot of us can care less about the extras on a disc but there are some discs that have extras worth watching not to mention the deleted scenes. If you download a whole HD movie to you harddrive it would probably take up 10-15 gb of space times this by (say the average person downloads 50 movies per year) 750gb. You would have to by a 1TB hard drive a year not to mention storage cases. And what if your sytem crashes you are screwed.
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Old 12-12-2007, 01:13 PM   #12
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Real World Media all the way. I can't resell a used download on ebay or at the local shop when I no longer care about it.
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Old 12-12-2007, 01:19 PM   #13
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I'll fight downloads to the bitter end. I would have to upgrade my service to the highest possible, buy stuff that converts it for my tv, and wait for the download. You would have to burn it in order to loan to a friend so why not just have the disc in the first place!?
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Old 12-12-2007, 01:23 PM   #14
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For me downloading may eventually replace renting, but it’ll NEVER replace buying. Any movie that I plan on seeing more than once, will be on BD for the duration of it’s existence.
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Old 12-12-2007, 01:31 PM   #15
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I was just wondering how many people out there would rather download HD movies over owning a disc.

I personally rather own the disc for many reasons. Some being the time it take to download, the storage capacity limitations and the fact that you would still need to burn a copy to let someone borrow it.

I was just wonering what everyone's take on this. I would have done a poll but I did not know how too.
Good thread Dogger. A poll would have been pointless because as buyers of blu-ray, it is pretty obvious most of us prefer the hard media.

There is just a certain conveinence with owning the disk you don't get with a PC. You don't have to wait a couple of minutes for you player to "boot". My Sony BDP-S300 is ready in 45 seconds, and even the worst BD-J disc now loads under 2 minutes. That will only improve with newer players.

If your player crashes, it doesn't destroy your disc. A hard drive crash could destroy all your movies. Nor is your player going to get an update in the middle of playing and slow down, and demand a reboot. It is just too many little annoyances that makes watching a movie on a PC totally stupid.

Besides, with the registration process and billing, MS could be trying to revive DIV-X all over again. Every time you play the movie, you pay a fee. Don't think it could happen? I envy your bliss.

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Old 12-12-2007, 01:35 PM   #16
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[QUOTE=dogger114;408072]I was just wondering how many people out there would rather download HD movies over owning a disc.QUOTE]

I'll have the disc everytime thanks. Download will only work when they're free. As we currently have to pay for our films I want something physical to show for my money. Not sat on a HDD that could decide to corrupt itself whenever it got the urge (especially if it's connected to a M$ system).

Give me discs and give them to me in Blu
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Old 12-12-2007, 01:36 PM   #17
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I am very AGAINST of downloading. I'd rather have the HDM (even if it's HD DUD, I would prefer HD DUD over download)
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Old 12-12-2007, 01:37 PM   #18
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Downloading makes no sense in a high def world. MS is thinking greed, not reality.

Now, it might make sense to those who want to distribute movies free to their friends like they now do music. I wonder why the studios would want to recreate the rip-off music era with movies for free for everyone.
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Old 12-12-2007, 01:41 PM   #19
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I just don't see how downloading entire movie collections would be practical. File sizes are too big, too much time to download, and i just don't see how it would make companies any money. Say they do compress it to about 1 gig. I copy it to my flash drive. I could then share it with all my friends without losing any quality from the original, all within a few minutes. I think that would be a huge problem companies would face and one of the many reasons it would fail.
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Old 12-12-2007, 01:43 PM   #20
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haha nice looks like johnson posted my point before i could
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