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Old 07-16-2011, 08:29 AM   #1461
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[Show spoiler]they explained the mirror as aberforth on the other side helping them out. hermione noticed it because she saw harry on the wall. i, who had read the books, assumed it was part of the two sided mirror from sirius. which i guess it was. there were no goats. time for a nerd rage. they cut out pretty much all of dumbledore's back story. probably trying to be pc with the gay thing. the battle at the end was the biggest change. harry and voldemort were alone and battled in the courtyard. when voldemort died his ashes just blew away and they cut the monologue about redemption and all of that. they also killed goyle and lavender. i don't remember lavender dying in the book. it was weird how there was no reaction to voldemort dying.


spoileriffic.... curious thing to keep in your sock.
[Show spoiler]I think they also explained in the movie how Aberforth got Sirius' mirror. Agreed on the part removing Dumbledore's back story. I think Goyle replaced Crabbe's position there, since I hadn't seen him in the movie. The scene after Voldemort died just changed, they were supposed to be in Dumbledore's office, Harry was supposed to repair his wand using the Elder Wand, Harry was supposed to put the Elder Wand back to Dumbledore's tomb. Instead, he broke the wand and threw it. (What wand is he gonna use now? lol) Though I like the fact that they added the scene in the Chamber of Secrets.
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Old 07-16-2011, 09:57 AM   #1462
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[Show spoiler]I think they also explained in the movie how Aberforth got Sirius' mirror. Agreed on the part removing Dumbledore's back story. I think Goyle replaced Crabbe's position there, since I hadn't seen him in the movie. The scene after Voldemort died just changed, they were supposed to be in Dumbledore's office, Harry was supposed to repair his wand using the Elder Wand, Harry was supposed to put the Elder Wand back to Dumbledore's tomb. Instead, he broke the wand and threw it. (What wand is he gonna use now? lol) Though I like the fact that they added the scene in the Chamber of Secrets.
Re: Crabbe/Goyle
[Show spoiler]The actor who played Crabbe got arrested on drug charges, so they wanted him out of the movie.
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Old 07-16-2011, 10:03 AM   #1463
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[Show spoiler]The actor who played Crabbe got arrested on drug charges, so they wanted him out of the movie.
That explains why. So basically Goyle played Crabbe's part?
[Show spoiler]That's the reason Goyle died.
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Old 07-16-2011, 11:24 AM   #1464
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Just asking, because I haven't seen Part Two yet...do they explain why Harry is suddenly carrying around a piece of broken glass for some inexplicable reason?
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I think they never explained it in the movies.
[Show spoiler]In Pt. 2, they revealed who has the other piece of mirror and why he has it.
But they didn't explain why he has that mirror.
we have known why he is carrying the mirror with him since film 5! they've shown
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giving it to him. and they DO explain how
[Show spoiler]Aberborth
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Old 07-16-2011, 11:30 AM   #1465
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we have known why he is carrying the mirror with him since film 5! they've shown
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giving it to him. and they DO explain how
[Show spoiler]Aberborth
got the mirror in Part 2
Actually, the problem is that we did not hear about the mirror in the Order of the Phoenix movie. That was just in the book.
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Old 07-16-2011, 11:36 AM   #1466
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Actually, the problem is that we did not hear about the mirror in the Order of the Phoenix movie. That was just in the book.
my bad!!!!! you're right! I was thinking of the scene where sirius showed him the picture of the order. I heard all the books in audiobook form before watching Part 2, I guess it affected my memory of the movies :P
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Old 07-16-2011, 11:39 AM   #1467
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Actually, the problem is that we did not hear about the mirror in the Order of the Phoenix movie. That was just in the book.
Perhaps it was filmed and cut.

Does anyone know?

Order Of The Phoenix is infamous for its 45-minutes of deleted scenes that mostly haven't surfaced.
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Old 07-16-2011, 12:48 PM   #1468
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we have known why he is carrying the mirror with him since film 5! they've shown
[Show spoiler]Sirius
giving it to him. and they DO explain how
[Show spoiler]Aberborth
got the mirror in Part 2
I guess that's the problem when we read the books and watch the movie, it gets us confused with infos that are on the book but we assume it's in the movie. lol. I believe I remembered Sirius giving Harry that mirror and say his name, in case Umbridge does anything cruel or sth. But Sirius told Harry not to tell Molly about that. It was in Christmas, I think? That's of course, from the book.

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Perhaps it was filmed and cut.

Does anyone know?

Order Of The Phoenix is infamous for its 45-minutes of deleted scenes that mostly haven't surfaced.
I believe so, considering the fact that OotP is the longest book in the series and that the 45-minute-deleted-scenes speculations. And that's the reason why most of us are in deep need of extended cuts for OotP, and the rest too.

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Old 07-16-2011, 04:16 PM   #1469
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Don't forget too that in HBP it McGonagal asks harry about his aspiration of becoming an auror. But in Order we get no such scenes concerning this.
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Old 07-16-2011, 04:46 PM   #1470
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Don't forget too that in HBP it McGonagal asks harry about his aspiration of becoming an auror. But in Order we get no such scenes concerning this.
Yeah, but this is really minor. There are more important things they could add.
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Old 07-16-2011, 04:57 PM   #1471
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Well I hadn't read any of the books before seeing the films up to Half-Blood Prince and I had no problem following anything in the films. I think reading the books first is more frustrating because you think details from the books should be there but aren't, yet without this knowledge you never realize anything is missing. Probably why Goblet of Fire is one of my favorites of the films yet that's where the book fans started complaining about too many cuts.

For the record, I have now read all the books, and pretty much agree by and large with how the films dealth with cutting the story. The only thing I felt was a real problem was some alterations done to Half-Blood Prince, which I still think is a great film despite those issues.
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Old 07-16-2011, 04:59 PM   #1472
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If the UK never gets the UE's, then I'll have a thing or two to say to WB. Why, of course, would they release the UE's of a British film in Britain? That obviously makes no sense, so just release it everywhere else.
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Old 07-16-2011, 05:03 PM   #1473
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I really hope they do extend the other films.

I'm just desperate for as much Potter as possible.

Order Of The Phoenix obviously needs it though, it's a crime that that footage is just "gathering dust" on someone's harddrive.
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Old 07-16-2011, 05:31 PM   #1474
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If the UK never gets the UE's, then I'll have a thing or two to say to WB. Why, of course, would they release the UE's of a British film in Britain? That obviously makes no sense, so just release it everywhere else.
That makes complete sense! I completely forgot that Harry Potter is a British film. I'm just hoping that someone put their foot down regarding the UK when they found out the Ultimate Edition's wouldn't be that Ultimate, and hopefully, now that David Yates has finished DH Part 2 he will have the time to go back and extend OOTP at least. We do need an extended cut, especially all the stuff at the ministry of magic that was in the book but got canned.

I'm not saying that when the UK gets the Ultimate Edition's they will be extended, I'm saying perhaps the UK wont get the Ultimate Edition's but rather the Even MORE Ultimate Editions when they eventually come out in the US, with extended movies... in 3D!
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Old 07-16-2011, 05:42 PM   #1475
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[Show spoiler]they explained the mirror as aberforth on the other side helping them out. hermione noticed it because she saw harry on the wall. i, who had read the books, assumed it was part of the two sided mirror from sirius. which i guess it was. there were no goats. time for a nerd rage. they cut out pretty much all of dumbledore's back story. probably trying to be pc with the gay thing. the battle at the end was the biggest change. harry and voldemort were alone and battled in the courtyard. when voldemort died his ashes just blew away and they cut the monologue about redemption and all of that. they also killed goyle and lavender. i don't remember lavender dying in the book. it was weird how there was no reaction to voldemort dying.


spoileriffic.... curious thing to keep in your sock.
Just wondering but what does pc mean in the above paragraph? I've never known .

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That makes complete sense! I completely forgot that Harry Potter is a British film. I'm just hoping that someone put their foot down regarding the UK when they found out the Ultimate Edition's wouldn't be that Ultimate, and hopefully, now that David Yates has finished DH Part 2 he will have the time to go back and extend OOTP at least. We do need an extended cut, especially all the stuff at the ministry of magic that was in the book but got canned.

I'm not saying that when the UK gets the Ultimate Edition's they will be extended, I'm saying perhaps the UK wont get the Ultimate Edition's but rather the Even MORE Ultimate Editions when they eventually come out in the US, with extended movies... in 3D!
I would be absolutely over the moon if this happened.
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Old 07-16-2011, 05:52 PM   #1476
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That makes complete sense! I completely forgot that Harry Potter is a British film. I'm just hoping that someone put their foot down regarding the UK when they found out the Ultimate Edition's wouldn't be that Ultimate, and hopefully, now that David Yates has finished DH Part 2 he will have the time to go back and extend OOTP at least. We do need an extended cut, especially all the stuff at the ministry of magic that was in the book but got canned.

I'm not saying that when the UK gets the Ultimate Edition's they will be extended, I'm saying perhaps the UK wont get the Ultimate Edition's but rather the Even MORE Ultimate Editions when they eventually come out in the US, with extended movies... in 3D!
I emailed WB a while back about the whole UE thing. They said they might or might not do it in the UK, after Part II is released, then they'll decide. I then told them it makes no sense not releasing the UE's in the UK. We'll see if they do release them.

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Old 07-16-2011, 06:15 PM   #1478
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I think they never explained it in the movies.
[Show spoiler]In Pt. 2, they revealed who has the other piece of mirror and why he has it.
But they didn't explain why he has that mirror.
So annoying.

Well, I'm glad I know, so I don't have to waste any more time being curious about it. Amazing that even with 4.5 hours to tell one book, they still can't explain the supposed plot incidents.
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That makes complete sense! I completely forgot that Harry Potter is a British film. I'm just hoping that someone put their foot down regarding the UK when they found out the Ultimate Edition's wouldn't be that Ultimate, and hopefully, now that David Yates has finished DH Part 2 he will have the time to go back and extend OOTP at least. We do need an extended cut, especially all the stuff at the ministry of magic that was in the book but got canned.
Like the actual prophecy...oy...
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So annoying.

Well, I'm glad I know, so I don't have to waste any more time being curious about it. Amazing that even with 4.5 hours to tell one book, they still can't explain the supposed plot incidents.
It's easy to infer, though, that
[Show spoiler]Dumbledore planted it in Harry's stuff. Aberforth tells Harry that Albus was aware of the mirror and specifically told him not to tell Harry about it should they meet.
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