Where is Blu-ray.com headed?

[greekjgg]

The congestion on this forum is no different then any popular forum. Originally it was made up of mostly early adoptors and that led to great discussions. With blu becoming the main attraction, we are now adding to it the first of the mass adopters.

ANy popular forum is like driving down the highway.

1. THere will ALWAYS be somebody driving in the fast lane that shouldn't be
2. There will ALWAYS be spectactors who slow down to look at the accident
3. There will ALWAYS be somebody that is talking on their cell phone not paying attention and missing important information.

There is NOTHING you can do about this except to DEAL WITH IT. What your wanting to do in a sense is drive with a gun and shoot anyone who gets in your way.

[DrinkMore]

As with all things - it reaches a critical mass at some point and "explodes". After that it's a downwards trend. Once Blu-Ray is mainstream and all studios support it - this wonderful site will pretty much become useless. No offense.

In all honesty, how many people spend their days on DVD forums talking about new releases and new "editions" of the same movie? Not many. I would rather not and just buy movies


EDIT: I also think everyone here should be reset back to 0. Start from scratch. Quit a few people - the ones that cause problems - will leave because all they care about is how many posts they have.

[JimPullan]

The vast majority of consumers who enter my store are totally confused about the differences of products being offered today. I spend alot of time educating them, in terms thay can understand, so they can feel comfortable that they've made the right purchasing decision, not thinking did I make the right decision. This lack of knowledge spreads across all technologies, HDTV's, Receivers and Pre-Amp Processors, High Definition DVD Players, understanding what all these advanced audio codecs offer in their audio experience, what they need to hear it, and so on, and so on.

So, I disagree that this site becomes worthless once the format war is over.

The "challange" is to inform and equip the new, prospective buyer of high definition entertainment products with information (Facts) they can use. This in my opinion is paramount to the adoption, on a mass scale, to what we early adopters have fought so hard to bring into the limelight. So, our task is not ending, it is just beginning, with an audience of similar interest to ours, simply less informed. At least, in accepting this challange, and helping the uninformed, there will be less tension around here, less speculation or heresay, he said, she said, kinda stuff. I'll find that refreshing [Jim]

Originally Posted by DrinkMore

As with all things - it reaches a critical mass at some point and "explodes". After that it's a downwards trend. Once Blu-Ray is mainstream and all studios support it - this wonderful site will pretty much become useless. No offense.

In all honesty, how many people spend their days on DVD forums talking about new releases and new "editions" of the same movie? Not many. I would rather not and just buy movies


EDIT: I also think everyone here should be reset back to 0. Start from scratch. Quit a few people - the ones that cause problems - will leave because all they care about is how many posts they have.

[DrinkMore]

Originally Posted by JimPullan

The vast majority of consumers who enter my store are totally confused about the differences of products being offered today. I spend alot of time educating them, in terms thay can understand, so they can feel comfortable that they've made the right purchasing decision, not thinking did I make the right decision. This lack of knowledge spreads across all technologies, HDTV's, Receivers and Pre-Amp Processors, High Definition DVD Players, understanding what all these advanced audio codecs offer in their audio experience, what they need to hear it, and so on, and so on.

So, I disagree that this site becomes worthless once the format war is over.

The "challange" is to inform and equip the new, prospective buyer of high definition entertainment products with information (Facts) they can use. This in my opinion is paramount to the adoption, on a mass scale, to what we early adopters have fought so hard to bring into the limelight. So, our task is not ending, it is just beginning, with an audience of similar interest to ours, simply less informed. At least, in accepting this challange, and helping the uninformed, there will be less tension around here, less speculation or heresay, he said, she said, kinda stuff. I'll find that refreshing [Jim]

I agree. My post does not reflect that as usual because my wording is inadequate. As for LATEST and GREATEST hard hitting who is where in the format war - blu-ray.com will be useless at that point. HOWEVER - it will remain the pinnacle place to get any and all info related to blu-ray and how it works and what kind of equipment and so on.

Then again, it's a double edged sword. If blu-ray.com expects to stay booming, they will need to adapt - add new categories to supplement the lack of news or whatever if that makes sense? You can only talk about something so much before it becomes redundant. Without any new stimulation - things become stagnant and die off.

[gearyt]

Noobies are a problem, and always will be.. they leap before they learn to run..ok.... live with it. It took me a while to get the hang of it too. I came here to research and stayed.. IF a noobie cannot post, how does he ask for help. he can't, he gets frustrated, thinks we are a "stoopid" site and leaves.
This is not what we are here for nor what we desire.. patience is a vertue or so they say. This site should be about the technology, ever changing, and not the war - soon to be over

geary

[zMadMonk]

Originally Posted by gearyt

Noobies are a problem, and always will be.. they leap before they learn to run..ok.... live with it. It took me a while to get the hang of it too. I came here to research and stayed.. IF a noobie cannot post, how does he ask for help. he can't, he gets frustrated, thinks we are a "stoopid" site and leaves.
This is not what we are here for nor what we desire.. patience is a vertue or so they say. This site should be about the technology, ever changing, and not the war - soon to be over

geary

Here is where the problem lies. I am a new member - but longtime lurker. These "Noobies" are treated as a problem. By all appearances, many people like to lash out at the noobies. I've had someone be flat out nasty with me, and I've seen others being accused of trolls, because of the low post count, blah blah blah. (Yes, there have been some trolls, but you get those everywhere.)

One thing to remember: If not for these "Noobies", Blu-Ray would NOT be in the position they are in right now. We "Noobies" are the ones who bought into Blu-Ray this holiday season, thus turning the tide.

I would think that this site would welcome these new folks, for without US, HD-DVD would be the winner right now. But again, that's just me.

[supersix4]

Originally Posted by zMadMonk

Here is where the problem lies. I am a new member - but longtime lurker. These "Noobies" are treated as a problem. By all appearances, many people like to lash out at the noobies. I've had someone be flat out nasty with me, and I've seen others being accused of trolls, because of the low post count, blah blah blah. (Yes, there have been some trolls, but you get those everywhere.)

One thing to remember: If not for these "Noobies", Blu-Ray would NOT be in the position they are in right now. We "Noobies" are the ones who bought into Blu-Ray this holiday season, thus turning the tide.

I would think that this site would welcome these new folks, for without US, HD-DVD would be the winner right now. But again, that's just me.

I dont think anyone hates you or wants to its just for example today I've responded to at least 5 threads that have already been covered, is it really any longer stint members fault for being a bit eirked when hes said the black bars are their to stay 30 times I bet 100% that if newer users were restricted for awhile that wouldnt happen as much btw its all good

[JimPullan]

Many years ago, a TV series called 'Dragnet' had Detective Joe Friday always saying "just the facts, ma'm", though the drama was interesting, his approach was "Dull". I became bored with it, just because of that.

Though we may be able to assist and guide a new member with product information, understanding, based upon our experience, we don't have to be like Joe Friday. I have, beyond a vast knowledge of products, a Passion and love for this industry, as difficult as it may be sometimes, be it from the manufacturers, distributors, or the consumer. This passion shows in every conversation I have with a customer or presentation I make, or in the explanation of technology. I thrive on this and enjoy every moment, with anxious anticipation of what's just over the horizon, that new technology that will amaze the consumer, be it visually or aubibly.

So, I personally, look forward to contributing here, now and in the future, knowing we just made a consumer pleased and is enjoying 21 Century technology products, amazed at what they are seeing and hearing.

Will you join me? The journey is not over !!! [Jim]

[BTBuck1]

Originally Posted by DrinkMore

I agree. My post does not reflect that as usual because my wording is inadequate. As for LATEST and GREATEST hard hitting who is where in the format war - blu-ray.com will be useless at that point. HOWEVER - it will remain the pinnacle place to get any and all info related to blu-ray and how it works and what kind of equipment and so on.

Then again, it's a double edged sword. If blu-ray.com expects to stay booming, they will need to adapt - add new categories to supplement the lack of news or whatever if that makes sense? You can only talk about something so much before it becomes redundant. Without any new stimulation - things become stagnant and die off.

Of which point should do we all just try and make this some sort of social outlet to meet people and discuss our personal lifes to no end? Because that is pretty much how you've treated the boards since day one, like they are useless for Blu-ray related material. I totally disagree, and think this board will always serve a informative purpose on all things blu-ray/hometheater.

[DrinkMore]

Originally Posted by BTBuck1

Of which point should do we all just try and make this some sort of social outlet to meet people and discuss our personal lifes to no end? Because that is pretty much how you've treated the boards since day one, like they are useless for Blu-ray related material. I totally disagree, and think this board will always serve a informative purpose on all things blu-ray/hometheater.

It's ok buck. I know you are unhappy with your life and you are venting on others. I am here if you need some help and advice buddy

[CAB]

blu-ray.com is the premier format neutral forum for optical HDM in the known universe. I expect it to only get better.

I dig my blu-ray.com family.

[supersix4]

another thing members can do is simply report new threads to the mods and let them deal with it i've been doing that quite a bit today lol all thats needed is to say this has been discussed include a link to where it was started prior then wait for it to be merged

[maximiza]

What is "post whoring"?

[supersix4]

Originally Posted by DrinkMore

As with all things - it reaches a critical mass at some point and "explodes". After that it's a downwards trend. Once Blu-Ray is mainstream and all studios support it - this wonderful site will pretty much become useless. No offense.

In all honesty, how many people spend their days on DVD forums talking about new releases and new "editions" of the same movie? Not many. I would rather not and just buy movies


EDIT: I also think everyone here should be reset back to 0. Start from scratch. Quit a few people - the ones that cause problems - will leave because all they care about is how many posts they have.

lol Mwahahaha I'll catch up to you ... on the other note, I think it'll be alright maybe a little tighter guidelines for the new guy's maybe like 200 posts in the newbie section b4 they can move to the big one's, lol what do I know its a good site and until I see it become a mad house im staying put

Originally Posted by Iceman

Unfortunately you are quite right, as we speak someone just posted this:
https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=31124

lol I dont know how you havent gone nuts Ice a couple 1000 of those and Id be in the looney bin

[iceman]

Originally Posted by greekjgg

The congestion on this forum is no different then any popular forum. Originally it was made up of mostly early adoptors and that led to great discussions. With blu becoming the main attraction, we are now adding to it the first of the mass adopters.

ANy popular forum is like driving down the highway.

1. THere will ALWAYS be somebody driving in the fast lane that shouldn't be
2. There will ALWAYS be spectactors who slow down to look at the accident
3. There will ALWAYS be somebody that is talking on their cell phone not paying attention and missing important information.

There is NOTHING you can do about this except to DEAL WITH IT. What your wanting to do in a sense is drive with a gun and shoot anyone who gets in your way.

Unfortunately you are quite right, as we speak someone just posted this:
https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=31124

[maximiza]

There will always be something to talk about regarding this HD BLU-RAY Standard. PC games on blu, blu burners, blu cam corders etc, etc.

[JimPullan]

I wanted to comment on what I'm about to say below, after my earlier post, but refrained to do so, got offline, thought about it, and I'm going to say it:

In my opinion, as we move forward on this site, there are three things, I believe, are important for all of us here to embrace or at least think about.

There will be people coming here who will certainly be uninformed, uneducated about what 'we' know so much about, and we may see their questions as so fundimental, that to us they appear stupid. We need to realize that for everything there is a beginning, and many will start here. We will need to exercize restraint, patience, and humility. The last being the hardest, that though we were too once the uninformed, that our emassing of knowledge does not give us liberty to ridicule or put down the novice. Simply meet them at 'where they are' and bring them forward without destroying their zeal along the way. So, for what it's worth, that's my two cents! [Jim]

[iceman]

Good post and ideas again Jim

As a first step we've added "FAQ" next to the "Forum" on the main menu. By placing the "FAQ" next to the "Forum", newbies will hopefully see and click it before going to the forum. We will also try to expand the FAQ a lot to help members and to offload the forum. If any of you want to participate in creating Q/As for the FAQ, feel more than welcome... we are amassed with things to do right now

[DrinkMore]

Originally Posted by Iceman

Good post and ideas again Jim

As a first step we've added "FAQ" next to the "Forum" on the main menu. By placing the "FAQ" next to the "Forum", newbies will hopefully see and click it before going to the forum. We will also try to expand the FAQ a lot to help members and to offload the forum. If any of you want to participate in creating Q/As for the FAQ, feel more than welcome... we are amassed with things to do right now

Why not just go one step further and make the FORUM button go to FAQ and the FAQ button go to FORUM. Lol. Might do the trick

[greekjgg]

Originally Posted by Iceman

Good post and ideas again Jim

As a first step we've added "FAQ" next to the "Forum" on the main menu. By placing the "FAQ" next to the "Forum", newbies will hopefully see and click it before going to the forum. We will also try to expand the FAQ a lot to help members and to offload the forum. If any of you want to participate in creating Q/As for the FAQ, feel more than welcome... we are amassed with things to do right now

This is like expecting people to read the instruction manual first!! Never happens!!

Or my favorite!! Where are the restrooms? (While standing under the sign!)