Call of Duty: Black Ops 2

[CasualKiller]

I'm not sure about that. I do enjoy the faster pace and the kill streaks of MW3 but if they had Hardcore mode equal to what MW3 has now, I wouldn't be struggling to finish these last 2 prestiges in BOPS. Although I guess it is more than just the game mode setup, the drop in population has made a huge impact in playability for me as well.

[supersix4]

Originally Posted by Mavrick

Release Date TBC: 6th of November 2012




This year, Call of Duty will return with it’s ninth installment with Black Ops 2. As expected it will be following Treyarch’s previous game Black Ops. It’s release date is set for the 6th of November.


Game Modes
[*]Escort, a new game mode similar to Search and Destroy however a live player must be escorted to one of three areas (or two depending on the map) without being killed. The match will have rounds, consisting of one life only.

cool I think it promotes teamwork


Pointstreaks
Pointstreaks suck because it gives people that can't kill ways to kill those that can


Prestiges

• There will be 15 prestiges
• There will be 50 ranks
• Every two prestiges there is a 5 rank increase
• The final prestige has 90 levels

Nice upgrade to the prestige system


ELITE 2.0
Stats are nice and there are some good features in Elite, but if the game sucks doesn't matter



Removed

• No MOAB or Nuke
• No last stand
• No death streaks
• No flame thrower attachment

Wasn't impressed with MW3's MOAB anyway, 25 kills with the spawn system, and somewhat questionable map layout which prevented this from being a routine thing the way Nukes were in MW2 made this a chore. Everything else is good to be removed.

Map Design

• Map design and size will be following Black Ops not Modern Warfare 3

Anything that can fix the mess that wasn't just maps, but spawning is 10000000% ok in my opinion

Sniper Rifles

• Improved sniper rifle usage.
• No aim assist for any sniper rifle.
• Less sway

Funny, that looks like an omission they botched it in Blackops, again these changes only matter if the maps/layouts don't suck

Customization

• No longer just perk 1 chooses the players appearance
• Appearance is a combination of all perks and type of Pointstreak being used.

Hardcore

Some cool upgrades to Hardcore


Perk System 2.0

• The Perk Pro system has been upgraded
• There is now 2 options a perk can advance to.
• Both require different challenges to unlock
• Once the desired Pro version is unlocked, the player can select that as their "Perk Pro".
• Once selected, the only way to choose the other option is by entering prestige mode.
• For example Perk slot 1 has the perk called Speed
• Speed - Reduces the time taken to aim down the sight. Pro I - Swaps weapons faster. Pro II - Throws equipment faster

love this idea! instead of having to pick and choose like with mw3, having to earn them almost takes it back to cod4 where the perk did multiple things

Combat Training
Fine little side gametype for when nobodies on

My thoughts

[SoCalTiger]

Originally Posted by supersix4

My thoughts

Totally agree with you about the Perk Pro options. Really rad.

[SirMontyPython]

Originally Posted by SoCalTiger

Totally agree with you about the Perk Pro options. Really rad.

I almost forgot about how COD4 worked on their perks!

[supersix4]

Originally Posted by SoCalTiger

Totally agree with you about the Perk Pro options. Really rad.

Yep , I mean you still had to make choices for maps/ teams you'd play against, but it wasn't the 180 play style differences that started taking place with MW2 and got subsequently worse with each game.

As they said it was retarded in mw3 that you couldn't aim quick without that one perk but you could be fast as everything else. Having the perks all encompassing a single, but having to earn them is a much better idea, and it'll also make that prestige decision much harder especially if you don't get prestige tokens.

[AndyD]

Originally Posted by supersix4

Yep , I mean you still had to make choices for maps/ teams you'd play against, but it wasn't the 180 play style differences that started taking place with MW2 and got subsequently worse with each game.

As they said it was retarded in mw3 that you couldn't aim quick without that one perk but you could be fast as everything else. Having the perks all encompassing a single, but having to earn them is a much better idea, and it'll also make that prestige decision much harder especially if you don't get prestige tokens.

I'm not really sure I'm understanding the perk system here.

Taking the example, I understood it as perk 'Speed' comes as a standard choice

Once you complete a certain number of challenges, the Pro Perk is unlock (swaps weapons faster).
But there's an additional second level to the perk that can only be unlock when you prestige (so a prestige challenge in essence).

But that second level will stay unlock from then on out. Obviously, once you prestige, you lose everything and it needs to be unlocked again. But you can unlock the second level of the perk once you complete the challenges regardless of what level you're on.

Its kinda hard to explain but I hope someone gets what I'm saying.

Also, with the first level being set at 50 and increasing by 5 every two prestiges, it would make sense that the challenges need to unlock pro perks are relatively low. Take Marathon for example, run 5 miles to unlock level 1 and maybe run 10 miles to unlock level 2.
It would be stupid if you needed to run 20, 30, 40 or more miles to unlock level 2 when in all likelihood, you would reach prestige level well before that.

[supersix4]

Originally Posted by andydlp

I'm not really sure I'm understanding the perk system here.

Taking the example, I understood it as perk 'Speed' comes as a standard choice

Once you complete a certain number of challenges, the Pro Perk is unlock (swaps weapons faster).
But there's an additional second level to the perk that can only be unlock .

Yes and thats the cool thing maybe even insanely cool depending on what that third one is.

So take MW3; right now if you want "speed" you have to use extreme conditioning, but if you want to swap quick, you need Sleight of Hand... Now you've got two perks in one, but instead of like cod4 it will require some work to attain.

Basically it seems they are removing some of the fat that started taking place in mw2 and got awful with 3.

Originally Posted by andydlp

Also, with the first level being set at 50 and increasing by 5 every two prestiges, it would make sense that the challenges need to unlock pro perks are relatively low. Take Marathon for example, run 5 miles to unlock level 1 and maybe run 10 miles to unlock level 2.
It would be stupid if you needed to run 20, 30, 40 or more miles to unlock level 2 when in all likelihood, you would reach prestige level well before that.

This is very true they could ruin a brilliant idea with terrible execution.

And they've already proven they can mess it up with Black Ops 1

Take the Ghost Pro requirement:
Ghost Challenges:
Destroy 30 aircraft without killstreaks (dumb but ok..)
Destroy 5 sentry guns (absolutely foolish to have associated with this perk, I spent hours simply trying to find sentries to finish this, wasn't even playing the objectives or even killing)
Kill 20 enemies while their spy plane or blackbird is up (makes sense thats what a ghost would do)

[Navster]

Wipes the dust off of his servers from Treyarch

[supersix4]

Originally Posted by Navster

Wipes the dust off of his servers from Treyarch

I bet I'm sure thats why you aren't on mw3 as much... Too busy getting a headstart on the maps/playstyles

[Navster]

Originally Posted by supersix4

I bet I'm sure thats why you aren't on mw3 as much... Too busy getting a headstart on the maps/playstyles

Dont forget about spawn points

[TheWildWhelk]

I'm looking forward to any technical improvements that they have made with BO2. Before the jokes start about the graphics in Black Ops, i would say that there is tremendous pressure on Treyarch to not have Black Ops 2 look like a total dinosaur of a game. Warfighter is going to be using the Frostbite 2.0 engine, and even MW2.5 (sorry 3) looked like it had been released in 2009, including those overblown Dynamic Highlights. It would be a shame if the final CoD game of the present generation went out with a whimper rather than a bang.

[xReiIGNx]

NO death streaks?? Damm there goes my crutch

[Omegaice]

Originally Posted by xReiIGNx

NO death streaks?? Damm there goes my crutch

Martyrdom & Dead Man's Hand FTW!!!

[xReiIGNx]

Originally Posted by Omegaice

Martyrdom & Dead Man's Hand FTW!!!

pfft its all about the second chance lol

[becomingwater]

Originally Posted by supersix4

Yes and thats the cool thing maybe even insanely cool depending on what that third one is.

So take MW3; right now if you want "speed" you have to use extreme conditioning, but if you want to swap quick, you need Sleight of Hand... Now you've got two perks in one, but instead of like cod4 it will require some work to attain.

Basically it seems they are removing some of the fat that started taking place in mw2 and got awful with 3.




This is very true they could ruin a brilliant idea with terrible execution.

And they've already proven they can mess it up with Black Ops 1

Take the Ghost Pro requirement:
Ghost Challenges:
Destroy 30 aircraft without killstreaks (dumb but ok..)
Destroy 5 sentry guns (absolutely foolish to have associated with this perk, I spent hours simply trying to find sentries to finish this, wasn't even playing the objectives or even killing)
Kill 20 enemies while their spy plane or blackbird is up (makes sense thats what a ghost would do)

Ghost Pro is destroy one sentry gun

[max041104]

Originally Posted by becomingwater

Ghost Pro is destroy one sentry gun

+1, you are correct!!!

[supersix4]

Originally Posted by becomingwater

Ghost Pro is destroy one sentry gun

And nobody used them, I pulled that off a website anyway

[max041104]

Originally Posted by supersix4

And nobody used them, I pulled that off a website anyway

just curious, you didn't play Black Ops that much did you?

[supersix4]

Originally Posted by dlaw

just curious, you didn't play Black Ops that much did you?

Maybe 100 or so level ups (maybe like 60(ps3) and 40(360) between the two systems). Between the hitboxes and lag I stepped away from it, but in that time I would literally get excited to see a sentry and try my hardest to get to it. I'm sure had I logged days and days I'd have eventually ran into one, but thats not really the point, you shouldn't have to run into things, and 100 or so levels should be more than enough playtime to do a pro perk on either system.

[Mavrick]

Well, Acti has been busy deleting more forum posts again. This time an image was found on their servers pointing towards an April 28 announcement for BO2. Its since been removed. Originally was located at http://www.callofduty.com/bo2/images