Movie Posters Discussion Thread

[BAMJoe]

I am looking to frame my Mondo Avengers poster. Any tips on what I should look for in the frame and how it is mounted?

[Kinsella5]

Here is the official press release, pay close attention to the "Golden Ticket" news, which will increase the print run by a lot. My guess was far too low, especially now:

"We will be having our first every 24 hour sale tomorrow, Wednesday 7/18/2012 and it starts at 12:01am CST. So, what that means is, when you go to sleep on Tuesday night in the central time zone and Tuesday turns to Wednesday…. that’s when it goes on sale. Does that make sense? Basically, the poster will be for sale all day Wednesday and will stop being for sale when Wednesday turns into Thursday. We will update you on Twitter with info and to let you know when it’s for sale, but just trying to give you as much information as possible.

One last thing, Olly has decided that he wants to give fans a special treat. When you buy a poster, you will have the chance to receive a GOLDEN TICKET. It will be randomly inserted into a poster tube and with this ticket, you will be able to have Olly do a poster for you. That’s right…. pretty much whatever you want. Like, if you want a SPLASH poster or something…. I’m sure he’ll be down. All I’m saying is that this is your chance to get the Olly piece that you’d always wish he would do. Pretty cool, right?

Okay… I think that’s all of the info I can divulge at this point. Sale starts in less than 24 hours now and I’ll announce on Twitter tonight. One last thing…. here are some “fine print” things you should know. Same rules apply as they usually do with our sales i.e. one per person / household / etc. We will not be taking any combined shipping requests, or Gallery pick up requests. Also, because of the volume of orders we are expecting, please anticipate 6 weeks for delivery of your poster.

Poster by Olly Moss. 16"x24" screen print. Hand numbered. Edition TBD. Printed by D&L Screenprinting. $40"

[Kinsella5]

Originally Posted by BAMJoe

I am looking to frame my Mondo Avengers poster. Any tips on what I should look for in the frame and how it is mounted?

DONT have it mounted (aka dry mounted), if you do that, your print will be WORTHLESS! Have the print done professionally, inform the framer it is a collectible print, and that you want it "loose between the glass and the backing of the frame". Dry mounting is a permanent process which alters the original state of a poster or print, etc, which devalues it. This Avengers print has real value and will continue to do so, so stay clear of mounting it.

Having it loose between the glass and the backing means technically you could take it out and roll it up if need be. Depending on where you live, I would consider UV-glass (or UV-plexiglass), and also make sure you use an acid-free backing. If you do a matte around it (which you really don't need to), go with acid-free as well. Any good framer out there will understand what all this means if you tell them.

[Kinsella5]

Originally Posted by Genesisfury

Got a reply from Mondo. They do ship to AUS and they say "All international shipping is $25". I think I'll be getting 2.

An article was posted on IGN about the sale of this poster too which, personally, I hate. Expect that to influence the sales.

I don't like the advertising of it because I think it devalues the posters and makes them less special.

Limited is one print per person according to the press release. Also, Mondo is more than likely shipping internationally via First Class International Mail, which can be kind of a gamble, unless they are using a 3rd party insurer. First Class International by far is the most affordable but the postal service does not allow for insurance to be added to First Class (although 3rd party companies offer it so technically insurance can be paid to them and the postage can be paid to the post office when shipping). Unsure if Mondo knows any of this, but if they are just sending out First Class International with no insurance, I am curious how they handle damage, lost, or stolen claims, because through the post office there is no protection against any of them.

[BAMJoe]

Originally Posted by Kinsella5

DONT have it mounted (aka dry mounted), if you do that, your print will be WORTHLESS! Have the print done professionally, inform the framer it is a collectible print, and that you want it "loose between the glass and the backing of the frame". Dry mounting is a permanent process which alters the original state of a poster or print, etc, which devalues it. This Avengers print has real value and will continue to do so, so stay clear of mounting it.

Having it loose between the glass and the backing means technically you could take it out and roll it up if need be. Depending on where you live, I would consider UV-glass (or UV-plexiglass), and also make sure you use an acid-free backing. If you do a matte around it (which you really don't need to), go with acid-free as well. Any good framer out there will understand what all this means if you tell them.

Awesome, thanks.

[TheCollector]

Is anybody else having problems getting onto the Mondo site. I've tried on 2 different computers, on 2 different connections, today and yesterday and it either takes AGES to load, or it just hangs and never loads at all.

[orbital]

Originally Posted by TheCollector

Is anybody else having problems getting onto the Mondo site. I've tried on 2 different computers, on 2 different connections, today and yesterday and it either takes AGES to load, or it just hangs and never loads at all.

Same here. Could it be that their site usually needs a bit of patience?

[grooveska]

Originally Posted by TheCollector

Is anybody else having problems getting onto the Mondo site. I've tried on 2 different computers, on 2 different connections, today and yesterday and it either takes AGES to load, or it just hangs and never loads at all.

Yeah it has been slow all day. They may be getting ready for the heavy load coming up tomorrow for their site.

[NARMAK]

I'm a total newb when it comes to posters. I've bought a few over the last few years that i was looking to frame, but can anybody tell me where they buy or i can get cheap poster frames from in the UK.

I was hoping about <£10 if possible but anything a little above is ok i guess as long as the quality is decent and what's the above about dry mounting posters and avoiding it where limited print posters are concerned?

EDIT

NVM bout the dry mounting. Google found me the answer so is there a written instruction or video to show best way to mount them as Kinsella5 said?

[Allforce]

Originally Posted by Kinsella5

DONT have it mounted (aka dry mounted), if you do that, your print will be WORTHLESS! Have the print done professionally, inform the framer it is a collectible print, and that you want it "loose between the glass and the backing of the frame". Dry mounting is a permanent process which alters the original state of a poster or print, etc, which devalues it. This Avengers print has real value and will continue to do so, so stay clear of mounting it.

Having it loose between the glass and the backing means technically you could take it out and roll it up if need be. Depending on where you live, I would consider UV-glass (or UV-plexiglass), and also make sure you use an acid-free backing. If you do a matte around it (which you really don't need to), go with acid-free as well. Any good framer out there will understand what all this means if you tell them.

Why is dry-mounting even a thing if it just makes the artwork worthless? Like what benefit could it possibly have to a collector?

At Hobby Lobby when I got my Robocop print framed the woman talked about dry-mounting (which I guess is actually WET apparently?) and then saw the print was signed and said "well never mind about that, it's signed and numbered and I didn't notice that before so we can't dry-mount it".


As an aside, is it bad that I'm more excited to get that Moss TDKR print framed then I am to actually buy the print? I want to have a frame-off with househead and roar and see who can do it better with the matting, frame choice, etc.

[grooveska]

Originally Posted by Allforce

As an aside, is it bad that I'm more excited to get that Moss TDKR print framed then I am to actually buy the print? I want to have a frame-off with househead and roar and see who can do it better with the matting, frame choice, etc.

That would be awesome and must happen!

[CdnBlu]

I wasn't going to purchase the Dark Knight Rises tomorrow, but now that there is a 'golden ticket' involved, I just might have to!

Another thing. Olly Moss will be doing AP versions of everything dropped at Comic Con, so keep an eye out for those.

Also, Mark Englert is doing a variant for the ComicCon exclusive 'You are my Lucky Star'. I actually like the green better then the orange in the original.
I'm definitely going after one of these!

[Kinsella5]

Originally Posted by TheCollector

Is anybody else having problems getting onto the Mondo site. I've tried on 2 different computers, on 2 different connections, today and yesterday and it either takes AGES to load, or it just hangs and never loads at all.

I noticed that too yesterday but eBay has been having issues today. It could be issues with the internet, somebody call Al Gore and get him to fix it.

[Kinsella5]

Originally Posted by Allforce

Why is dry-mounting even a thing if it just makes the artwork worthless? Like what benefit could it possibly have to a collector?

At Hobby Lobby when I got my Robocop print framed the woman talked about dry-mounting (which I guess is actually WET apparently?) and then saw the print was signed and said "well never mind about that, it's signed and numbered and I didn't notice that before so we can't dry-mount it".


As an aside, is it bad that I'm more excited to get that Moss TDKR print framed then I am to actually buy the print? I want to have a frame-off with househead and roar and see who can do it better with the matting, frame choice, etc.

One thing to remember is many people who have something framed could care less if it is dry-mounted, not realizing if it's something of any "value" or "collectibility" they are only shooting themselves in the foot. What a framer will tell people is that it takes away any ripples, etc and to some people seeing ripples or waves in their posters, or prints, is a big distraction for them, but in reality, by dry mounting, you are altering the original aspect of the collectible in general and when you do that, for any collectible, you devalue it.

In some ways, think of a vintage car for example. If you go and modify the car and take off stock parts, and put on different parts, you change the car completely, its no longer "stock" and thus, it devalues the car on the resale market. Posters, oddly enough, and other items basically fall under this same thing. Once you take an original movie poster and affix it to a stryroam backing and have them dry-mounted together, they become one and thus, you have now altered the original appearance of the poster and made it's value considerably less.

Framers have no idea what you are bringing to them, unless a person speaks up at the time they are having it framed, a framer could very well think it is a $10 poster a person got a local store, and may dry mount it without asking or factor in the cost to dry mount it into the price and not even tell the person. Years down the road if the person finds their poster is worth hundreds of dollars more than what they paid, when the take it out of the frame and notice it's dry mounted, then they will have a very difficult time getting much for it because movie poster collectors will know that its been altered.

At the end of the day people are free to do what they want with their posters, it isn't my place to dictate to them what they can or can't do, but I personally would never dry mount an original movie poster....never. If someone buys a reprint, since there is no value in reprints, and they want to remove any ripples, or waves in the poster, dry mounting is the way to go, but I am not sure why someone would go through all the expense of having a reprint professionally framed in the first place.

Many years ago a local shop here that would sell original and reprint movie posters called me up to tell me they had the ability now to reverse the dry mounting process, meaning if something was dry mounted, they could remove the poster from the material without damaging the poster they said. I somehow doubted that because a poster is just a big piece of colored paper and paper is very fragile and could easily get torn. I suggested if they were going to try it out, they should on a reprinted poster with no value, of course already started to test it, and rather than using a worthless reprint, or even an original that they had a lot of that perhaps wasn't a good seller, they opted to use an original 1980 Empire Strikes Back recalled one-sheet (rolled even which is more rarer!) and sure enough, the machine didn't do what they said it would and they ended up not being able to remove the foam board from the poster without damaging it, and they then just devalued a very rare poster and couldn't sell it for nearly what they could have if they had left well alone.

[Kinsella5]

Originally Posted by Allforce

At Hobby Lobby when I got my Robocop print framed the woman talked about dry-mounting (which I guess is actually WET apparently?) and then saw the print was signed and said "well never mind about that, it's signed and numbered and I didn't notice that before so we can't dry-mount it".

Unless it has changed, I remember the dry mounting process as the framer takes a piece of styrofoam backing (not really what you are thinking when you hear "styrofoam" though) and they cut it down to the size of the poster or print. They then spray a chemical all over the foam board and then place the poster/print on top of it. Then it is placed inside a machine like big flat vacuum that bonds the poster/print to the foam board and removes ripples, etc. The only way to take the poster/print off is by peeling it off and there is where you do the damage.

I think everyone would like to see the frame-off between you guys too so let the games begin!

[Kinsella5]

Originally Posted by CdnBlu

I wasn't going to purchase the Dark Knight Rises tomorrow, but now that there is a 'golden ticket' involved, I just might have to!

Another thing. Olly Moss will be doing AP versions of everything dropped at Comic Con, so keep an eye out for those.

Also, Mark Englert is doing a variant for the ComicCon exclusive 'You are my Lucky Star'. I actually like the green better then the orange in the original.
I'm definitely going after one of these!

Yeah that golden ticket is going to pretty much get most people off the fence who were saying "I'm not buying it" and will add thousands to the print run. I still am shaking my head at the people who are selling the standard on eBay for over $100, good lord that's absurd, even I wouldn't do that before a timed release has even begun.

Whomever gets the golden ticket will certainly get something really special, no doubt about that. Generous for Moss to offer that, great marketing idea for Mondo too. Everyone wins including one lucky fan.

Don't expect the Moss AP's of his variants to be cheap, he likes to price them according, but they will be cheaper than the eBay price, and he did say the variants are a different color than the standards. Plus they will go super fast but everyone knows that.

Mark is really fast becoming quite popular in the world of prints, it seems everything he is doing now is selling out faster and faster and I am quite happy for his success.

[Allforce]

Yeah it was the chemicals she told me they spray on it that had me saying "so the DRY mount is actually wet?" and she laughed.

It's odd that framers would do that without asking, at Hobby Lobby they make you fill out a form with the value of the piece. I wrote down "1 Million Dollars" just to be a goof.

[roar]

Originally Posted by Allforce

Why is dry-mounting even a thing if it just makes the artwork worthless? Like what benefit could it possibly have to a collector?

At Hobby Lobby when I got my Robocop print framed the woman talked about dry-mounting (which I guess is actually WET apparently?) and then saw the print was signed and said "well never mind about that, it's signed and numbered and I didn't notice that before so we can't dry-mount it".


As an aside, is it bad that I'm more excited to get that Moss TDKR print framed then I am to actually buy the print? I want to have a frame-off with househead and roar and see who can do it better with the matting, frame choice, etc.

Haha... that would be pretty awesome. I have so many prints I want to frame now. I am getting one of these for sure, I'm not sure where I would put it on my framing priority list but if there is a competition I could move it up the list I think Kill Bill is at the top of my list, but I'd really like to get my Mark Englert This is my Farm... print framed as I think I can actually fit that in the theatre.

Kinsella, any idea when those might be shipping from Mark?

[househead]

I'm working on a wacky project with a mondo poster and need to have it drymounted. My local guy said he will put some kind of glue or adhesive on it and stick it to some foamcore. Hence the worthlessness.

FRAME OFF! Let's do it. Ha! Honestly I'll only be buying it for a shot at the golden ticket. If I don't win I hope it's one of you guys.

[Kinsella5]

Originally Posted by roar

Haha... that would be pretty awesome. I have so many prints I want to frame now. I am getting one of these for sure, I'm not sure where I would put it on my framing priority list but if there is a competition I could move it up the list I think Kill Bill is at the top of my list, but I'd really like to get my Mark Englert This is my Farm... print framed as I think I can actually fit that in the theatre.

Kinsella, any idea when those might be shipping from Mark?

No idea, I would imagine over the next week or so, I know he was down at SDCC and was expecting in his stuff soon, if not already from the printer. Mark is really good about keeping everyone in the loop however.