The Hobbit Trilogy Discussion Thread

[antmumford]

Originally Posted by Yankees0222

I just finished reading the book for the first time.... I really don't think the story needs 2 movies (adding up to ~5 hours) to tell its story. Seems more like cash grabbing than necessity to me

I think a 3 hour movie would be sufficient.... And possibly an extended edition on home video if needed. Oh well.... What do I know?

I mean, they dedicated 1 movie to each of the LOTR stories and those were much longer than the hobbit.

Its not just The Hobbit book that's being used though, I've read somewhere Peter Jackson is taking scenes from The Silmarillion and The Children of Hurin and The Appendices to bulk up the films too

[Buddy Ackerman]

Originally Posted by Wally Q

I still really wish Tom Hollander had been cast. Equals in talent to Martin Freeman but actually looks like a younger Sir Ian. With that said, I like what I've seen of MF in this, he just doesn't look a thing like Holm.

I disagree. I don't see Holm in Hollander but, when I watched Alien a couple of months ago, Holm really reminded me of Freeman. Plus Freeman seems naturally Hobbit-y. Great casting in my mind, from a looks and character point of view.

[Buddy Ackerman]

Originally Posted by antmumford

Its not just The Hobbit book that's being used though, I've read somewhere Peter Jackson is taking scenes from The Silmarillion and The Children of Hurin and The Appendices to bulk up the films too

The Appendices yes. Not the other two - they don't own the rights to those.

I've read The Hobbit a couple of times and am re-reading it now. Yes, it's a shorter book than LOTR. But, reading it with the film in mind, I can easily see how it would fill two books, especially with the additional details of what else is happening i Middle-Earth at that time. When you read each chapter and imagine how it would play on screen you can see we could easily spend half an hour in The Shire,

[Show spoiler]fifteen minutes in Rivendell, a good half an hour in the Goblins cave/Gollum, fifteen minutes wargs and trees and eagles, twenty minutes with Beorn, twenty minutes in Mirkwood and the spiders, half an hour with the elves and the barrels...

Add in all the walking (there will be walking) and all of the extra material from the Appendices and you have a three hour film without milking anything.

There and Back Again seems more slight but I imagine we'll see a lot more of

[Show spoiler]the lives of Laketown

and

[Show spoiler]the Battle of the Five Armies

will be huge.

[Blu Ian]

Evie.

Could be. Hard to tell from dat angle.

[Show spoiler]

[flyinmunky99]

Originally Posted by Blu Ian

Evie.

Could be. Hard to tell from dat angle.

[Show spoiler]

The image below shows another angle and the do smile the same way. At first i was like no way but now after looking at her smile i think it is.

[Show spoiler]

Or maybe a stunt double?

[Lnds500]

THE HOBBIT, Production Video #8

[kjacobs03]

I'm glad to see they kept the giant rock monsters playing catch in the Misty Mountains.

[Duffy12]

Originally Posted by kjacobs03

I'm glad to see they kept the giant rock monsters playing catch in the Misty Mountains.

Oh WOW!!!!

[Show spoiler]

Same here.

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[My_Two_Cents]

Originally Posted by kjacobs03

I'm glad to see they kept the giant rock monsters playing catch in the Misty Mountains.

It's funny that in the dozen or so times I've read The Hobbit, I've never really been sure if the rock monsters part was real or simply an analogy for the storm.

[Duffy12]

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Regarding the city of Dale set...

[Show spoiler]shouldn't that be in ruins???

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[blakeyamc]

Originally Posted by Duffy12

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Regarding the city of Dale set...

[Show spoiler]shouldn't that be in ruins???

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My guess

[Show spoiler] it probably is the set for the flashback to the pre-Smaug Dale, showing the contrast to the Dale, the Dwarves and Bilbo see.

[Walts Ghost]

Peter Jackson Definitely Wants To Make ‘The Hobbit’ A Trilogy And Talks Have Accelerated To Do So

It looks like Peter Jackson will be making a third Hobbit film after all. At least, that’s what he’s decided he wants to do, according to The Hollywood Reporter. In the past few days, logistical talks have “accelerated” between the director, his producing partners and Warner Bros., who would be open to the idea if the finances worked out.

Jackson suggested he’d be interested in a third film a couple weeks ago and has since been figuring out when the production would have to come back to do reshoots, how many of the actors would need to come back, when they’d need to come back, and how much all of that would cost. All of that is almost in order. Read more after the jump.

A source told The Hollywood Reporter that if a third film is to be made out of The Hobbit, a decision would have to be made soon but that talks “have accelerated in recent days, with the studio on board if the right financial arrangements can be achieved:”

Jackson has already told a lot of story. Besides three award-winning Lord of the Rings films set in J.R.R. Tolkien’s universe, he released extended versions of each, and always aimed at turning the simpler prequel to those, The Hobbit, into two films (The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey is scheduled for release December 14 and The Hobbit: There and Back Again, will be out December 13, 2014. These plans would not change that time table).

If Warner Bros. decides everything looks good, additional filming would take place during the Summer of 2013 in New Zealand for about two months. There are apparently even some more rights issues that would have to be settled if this was to happen.

In a recent article on this over at Deadline, Jackson explained how he can take a book that’s so short and make it not only two books, but three:

It seems likely that if not by the end of this week, next week at the latest, we’ll get official word if The Hobbit will two films or three. The latter is looking more and more likely, however.

Source

Whoa...

[spanky87]

I can already see this becoming almost as hated as the Star Wars prequels, since this is such a beloved book and Jackson is really expanding on it. Hopefully it turns out great though.

How is this idea sitting with Tolkien fans? By not just adapting the Hobbit book but instead combining it with the appendices?

[Duffy12]

Originally Posted by Walts Ghost

Source

Whoa...

MAN!

I just don't know what to think about this.

Maybe if they really expended the

[Show spoiler] battle

of Dol Guldur and especially the Goblin/Dwarf wars I might be in.

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[Dead By Shaun]

I'm looking forward to viewing my first 24-hour Middle-earth marathon!

[JamesKurtovich]

A trilogy.

There is a god. And he loves us!

[Mandalorian]

Originally Posted by JamesKurtovich

A trilogy.

There is a god. And he loves us!

Haha can't wait until the day when I can watch all six Extended Editions back to back.

[keb33509]

Originally Posted by RJ Smoove

Haha can't wait until the day when I can watch all six Extended Editions back to back.

OMFG! I completely agree!

[vegeta88]

I wonder how this happened exactly. Obviously Jackson has a lot of footage since they will only do two more months of shooting. I wonder if it just turned out they had a lot of footage of if Jackson had this in mind and shot a lot so as to have a good excuse for going into a third film.

In any case, I am excited. I'm not sure these will be as scrutinized as the Star Wars prequels considering the lack of time passed in this set and considering Jackson has his writing team with him.

[Mandalorian]

Originally Posted by vegeta88

I wonder how this happened exactly. Obviously Jackson has a lot of footage since they will only do two more months of shooting. I wonder if it just turned out they had a lot of footage of if Jackson had this in mind and shot a lot so as to have a good excuse for going into a third film.

In any case, I am excited. I'm not sure these will be as scrutinized as the Star Wars prequels considering the lack of time passed in this set and considering Jackson has his writing team with him.

Good point. Come to think of it, Lucas didn't even direct the two original trilogy sequels though, so I look at that series differently than everyone else. I can't explain why or how, but I never thought it was fair for him to get 100% credit. Unless I missed something...

And this isn't all a response to your post. My brain just went on a tangent.