The Hobbit Trilogy Discussion Thread - Page 234 - Blu-ray Forum

Agent Bond · 11-29-2012, 10:50 AM

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New it. Soon as i saw the blasted Sled pulled by rabbits and the birdcrap covered Radagast, i knew that Jackson would push the humour factor too far. Honestly...

Its going to be a long movie, especially when the Extended version comes out. I wouldn't let a few scenes ruin a great movie for me.

TruBlu06 · 11-29-2012, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Agent Bond

Its going to be a long movie, especially when the Extended version comes out. I wouldn't let a few scenes ruin a great movie for me.

+1 By the way how many people here have actually seen the ridiculousness in question?

Buddy Ackerman · 11-29-2012, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by TheWildWhelk

Fly In The Ointment, sir. Why would Jackson feel the need to include 'bumbling comic wizard' Radagast in the film for some reason of bizarre comic relief when it's quite evident he is cranking up the humour factor for the rest of the film? I'm trying to work out what Jackson's motivation for it, that's all. If it turns out the rest of the book is adapted relatively unscathed (and i'm positively jazzed about Barry Humphries playing the Goblin King) then so be it. Simple: Don't subtract, just add if you must!

And did you read the rest of the review that the quote was pulled from? Because it's overhwelmingly positive. Or has everyone just jumped on the one quote that fitted their pre-set assumption and decided that was enough?

TruBlu06 · 11-29-2012, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Buddy Ackerman

And did you read the rest of the review that the quote was pulled from? Because it's overhwelmingly positive. Or has everyone just jumped on the one quote that fitted their pre-set assumption and decided that was enough?

You can't judge a book by its cover or a movie by one sentence in a review taken out of context.

Cabby · 11-29-2012, 11:59 AM

I just got my exclusive early screening tickets in the mail for The Hobbit!

Can't wait to see this baby early.

Mahatma · 11-29-2012, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by beadelf

Jar Jar The Brown!!!

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOo

this could be the phantom menace of the saga!! lol

lmao.Hard to have an open mind with many of those rather embarressing spoilers...

Grand Bob · 11-29-2012, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by MCT

weird. None of these things bothered me at all personally. Well, the Witch King breaking Gandalfs staff was pretty damn weird. Other than that....

Aside from the sensationalist footage, some of which was unintentionally comical (the avalanche of skulls on the Paths of the Dead in the extended version immediately comes to mind), it was the non-Tolkien fabricated plot elements and dialog that were most objectionable in the three LotR films. One brief example, in The Two Towers when Legolas panics before the Battle of Helm's Deep and has the short verbal scuffle with Aragorn ("and I will die with them!"). Anyone familiar with the saga knows that such an occurence would have been impossible (Elves do not panic), and it subtracted from the authenticity so painstakingly built-up by the models, props, costumes, make-up, and special effects departments.

This is what Jackson and Boyens need to avoid in the Hobbit films. On one hand I am optimistic because the subject matter of The Hobbit is far less serious than LotR, and therefore (one would imagine) less vulnerable to thematic abuse. Despite her visual appeal, we can be thankful there is not an Arwen in this story to tempt screenwriters into contriving ridiculous plot situations. From what I have seen and read about to date, the Hobbit-related footage should be fantastic. I am not as optimistic about the Appendices-related material, as that is an entirely different matter that ties into the larger thematic elements of the saga (mortality, good vs. evil, the relationship of the heroic and noble to the "rustic", questions of how sorrow and suffering can exist in a world created by a perfect being, etc.). I am not convinced that the screenwriters have a handle on this larger context of the story. This is where Jackson & co. need to be careful - to avoid repeating the flaws of the LotR movies, in what otherwise would probably have been the greatest films of all time.

drichter33 · 11-29-2012, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Aragorn84

LOL you guys. There's an embargo until next week, and that "review" is from the NY Daily News, a tabloid. Grain of salt required.

Even if that review were legit, though, I recall many comparing Merry and Pippin to Jar Jar back when FotR came out - and that was ridiculously off the mark.

Daily News isnt a tabloid, I think your are thinking of the NY Post.
That being said, still an over-reaction about how much humor is being interjected.

These are preliminary, purposely vague comments due to the embargo. Go see it and make up your own mind. Anyone jumping to conclusions over the comments being made and letting that already decide how much they will enjoy a film is crazy. They probably had a negative disposition towards the film to begin with and were going to crap on it no matter what.

Aragorn the Elfstone · 11-29-2012, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by drichter33

Daily News isnt a tabloid, I think your are thinking of the NY Post.
That being said, still an over-reaction about how much humor is being interjected.

These are preliminary, purposely vague comments due to the embargo. Go see it and make up your own mind. Anyone jumping to conclusions over the comments being made and letting that already decide how much they will enjoy a film is crazy. They probably had a negative disposition towards the film to begin with and were going to crap on it no matter what.

Ah, sorry about that. Well, their review was still otherwise very positive, so no biggie.

Duffy12 · 11-29-2012, 04:32 PM

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There was another TV spot last night that apparently had Smuag in it(Flashback most likely) It has not hit Youtube yet.

Has anybody seen it???

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MediaMalable · 11-29-2012, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Duffy12

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There was another TV spot last night that apparently had Smuag in it(Flashback most likely) It has not hit Youtube yet.

Has anybody seen it???

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People are talking about it all over the place, but somehow no one has uploaded it yet!

Duffy12 · 11-29-2012, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by MediaMalable

People are talking about it all over the place, but somehow no one has uploaded it yet!

How is that even possible!!!!

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blakeyamc · 11-29-2012, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael Harper

Ahh right. Thanks for the response. I think I'll call up ODEON tomorrow and see what they say

Looks like there are some IMAX 3D showings that will be in 48FPS.

See list below.

[Show spoiler]

Ernest Rister · 11-29-2012, 05:40 PM

Santikos Palladium IMAX - San Antonio

Will have to check it out. The tech alone pretty much demands a viewing.

Duffy12 · 11-29-2012, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by blakeyamc

Looks like there are some IMAX 3D showings that will be in 48FPS.

See list below.

[Show spoiler]

Keep in mind that those are NOT true IMAXs. Only the much smaller ones as True IMAXs are incapable of showing 48FPS.

So there is no need to go out of your way to find an IMAX theater if there happens to be a closer one showing it in 48FPS.

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blakeyamc · 11-29-2012, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Duffy12

Keep in mind that those are NOT true IMAXs. Only the much smaller ones as True IMAXs are incapable of showing 48FPS.

So there is no need to go out of your way to find an IMAX theater if there happens to be a closer one showing it in 48FPS.

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Excellent point.

Also, here is a new TV Spot, with some new shots. (Gandalf, Frodo) But, not the one we are all waiting for.

Beast · 11-29-2012, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Richard Graham

Well, it's a fairly simple story about reclaiming a treasure from a dragon, and we're getting a near three-hour film about just walking to the dragon.

It's Peter Jackson. You know he loves showing people walking.

I also love how they tried to make the film more epic by playing down the object of the Hobbit book.

In the book, all they really care about is reclaiming the treasure. In the trailers there's no mention of that being the goal.

It's all about the noble quest of reclaiming the Dwarf's Land. Guess Jackson realized the original story goal was too simple to satisfy 8 hours.

Duffy12 · 11-29-2012, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by blakeyamc

Excellent point.

Also, here is a new TV Spot, with some new shots. (Gandalf, Frodo) But, not the one we are all waiting for.

The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey - TV Spot 8 - YouTube

Can't find Smaug!

[Show spoiler]

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Duffy12 · 11-29-2012, 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Beast

It's Peter Jackson. You know he loves showing people walking.

I also love how they tried to make the film more epic by playing down the object of the Hobbit book.

In the book, all they really care about is reclaiming the treasure. In the trailers there's no mention of that being the goal.

It's all about the noble quest of reclaiming the Dwarf's Land. Guess Jackson realized the original story goal was too simple to satisfy 8 hours.

Maybe he will give them airplanes in this one.

Did you also complain about all the walking in Last of the Mohicans, Braveheart and Gladiator also?

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blakeyamc · 11-29-2012, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Duffy12

Can't find Smaug!

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Yep. I am beginning to believe it was all one cruel joke.

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11-29-2012, 11:59 AM	#4665
Cabby Special Member Member since:Oct 2012 Location:California Blu-ray collection:264 Trading Score:17	I just got my exclusive early screening tickets in the mail for The Hobbit! Can't wait to see this baby early.

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