The Hobbit Trilogy Discussion Thread

[Ernest Rister]

Originally Posted by Duffy12

LOL

Not by a long shot.

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LOL

On the bullseye. I couldn't believe what I was seeing. It was "dwarf tossing" times ten. It was like watching a foreign comedy and you're not getting the jokes.

[chris_sc77]

Originally Posted by Will21st

DEFENSIVE TROLL ALERT!!!! see,I can do that,too!

1. Your supposed 80/20 split is nonsense and means nothing.I'm reading,hearing and seeing a lot more praise for 48 than dislike.

2. This is without the shadow of a doubt a game changer,wether you see it or not.

Dude there was a yahoo front page news story advising people to be extremely wary of the HFR because of how many people are not diggin' it.



IN other news this is now predicted to do around $115 million for the 3 days which is insane . Breaks the Dec. record by like almost $50 million. Possible $200 million worldwide by sunday

[Duffy12]

Originally Posted by Snicket

I wouldn't go that far myself, but it was clear he did not belong. His voice was terrible.



What was lighthearted? The brutal decapitations?

That was one of my main issues, it was mature and filled with shlock at the same time, it has a bit of an identity crisis.

Jackson does have a habit of mixing both. There were only

[Show spoiler]two decaps that I remember, and the first one of the orc holding the dead king's head was a bit of a shock.

At least we did not get to see the

[Show spoiler]Goblin king spill his guts.

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[Duffy12]

Originally Posted by chris_sc77

IN other news this is now predicted to do around $115 million for the 3 days which is insane . Breaks the Dec. record by like almost $50 million. Possible $200 million worldwide by sunday

Then how come there was only 15 people in my theater?

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[Blu-Benny]

found a great example of why i hate critics!!

i forget his name....but he's the reviewer on worstpreviews.com

A surefire sign that "The Hobbit" could have been made into one feature film, and been better for it: in the finished version of "An Unexpected Journey," everything seems to take three times longer than necessary to get through. Thus, when Gandalf and the thirteen dwarves crash Bilbo's home, rushing around like Kevin McCallister's relatives at the beginning of "Home Alone" and making a mess of the place before revealing their purpose for showing up, what should have taken up ten minutes of screen time runs on and on for over thirty, taking up precious time with a burping contest and not one, but two, musical numbers.

this was a fantastic scene and i thought it played out very well when compared to the book!!

[Snicket]

Originally Posted by Duffy12

Jackson does have a habit of mixing both. There were only

[Show spoiler]two decaps that I remember, and the first one of the orc holding the dead king's head was a bit of a shock.

At least we did not get to see the

[Show spoiler]Goblin king spill his guts.

.

Haha, I was fully expecting the latter to happen.

The thing about the goofy LOTR moments was that they were left on the cutting room floor, such as Pippin farting, the drinking game, the hobbits getting high in Isengaurd etc...The Hobbit is essentially its own extended edition so it all got left in the final film.

found a great example of why i hate critics!!

i forget his name....but he's the reviewer on worstpreviews.com

Umm..you hate other people's opinions when you don't agree, you don't personally hate the critic. You wouldn't be saying that if the critic shared your opinion.

[Duffy12]

Originally Posted by Blu-Benny

found a great example of why i hate critics!!

i forget his name....but he's the reviewer on worstpreviews.com



this was a fantastic scene and i thought it played out very well when compared to the book!!

Yep. I agree also.

In fact I had a big grin on my face all throughout that first 45 min.

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[Blu-Benny]

Originally Posted by Duffy12

Yep. I agree also.

In fact I had a big grin on my face all throughout that first 45 min.

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totally agree w/u!! the whole prelude was fantastic!!!

Jackson and WETA def. didn't disappoint w/the eye candy in this movie!!!

Erebor was frickin' phenominal!!!

[tommyboy81]

I thought the Goblin Kings voice fit perfectly with how he looked and acted.

[stvn1974]

I don't get the critics faulting the movie because it takes too long to get going. I though critics liked long boring drawn out scenes of people just talking for no reason? I thought that was what we have award season for?

[Mithrandir-Grey]

The one character that was worse than jar jar was Ori. Joke of a Dwarf.

[Snicket]

Originally Posted by tommyboy81

I thought the Goblin Kings voice fit perfectly with how he looked and acted.

That was the problem

I don't get the critics faulting the movie because it takes too long to get going. I though critics liked long boring drawn out scenes of people just talking for no reason? I thought that was what we have award season for?

Who? The one critic that was cited? Please...

But on that note why are so many people so upset with other people's opinions? Seems if you care so much you are very insecure about your own thought systems.

[Aragorn the Elfstone]

While I still want a 2nd viewing to absorb the film more fully, I can't help but feel a tad underwhelmed at the moment. The film itself was perfectly entertaining, but I feel like it somewhat didn't live up to my expectations. Maybe that's unfair of me, but there were some things that bugged me. While the film didn't feel overlong to me at all, it did seem a bit sluggish in the middle - which is something I would have never said of LotR. I also wasn't fond of the more aggressive use of CG effects, as opposed to the first trilogy (but I suppose that's to be expected).

It may just be that it felt a bit odd seeing and hearing all these characters I know so well doing different things than in the trilogy. Even line readings felt odd to me at first (probably due to hearing said lines in my head over the years while reading the book). The film was still good, just not quite the excellence that was delivered with LotR. Which, again, may be a bit unfair of me (they are my favorite films of all time).

I am looking forward to my second viewing - so that I can see the film on it's own terms, as opposed to comparing it to both the book and the other films. Though, I haven't yet made up my mind if I want to see it in 2D once again, or if I'll dive in for the 48fps 3D.

I will say, though, that the Riddles in the Dark sequence was all kinds of awesomeness.

[Will21st]

Originally Posted by chris_sc77

Dude there was a yahoo front page news story advising people to be extremely wary of the HFR because of how many people are not diggin' it.



IN other news this is now predicted to do around $115 million for the 3 days which is insane . Breaks the Dec. record by like almost $50 million. Possible $200 million worldwide by sunday

Yeah,and Yahoo are so reliable on this issue and would in NO WAY try and hype a negative story for negativities sake,would they??

[Groge511]

Just saw a clip on TV and wow, it looked fast! Watching the film last night it looked fine but that clip there, I can certainly see the difference in the frame rate.
EDIT: In saying that the clip was 2D and obviously 48fps is for 3D.

[L-Rouge]

Originally Posted by Aragorn84

While I still want a 2nd viewing to absorb the film more fully, I can't help but feel a tad underwhelmed at the moment. The film itself was perfectly entertaining, but I feel like it somewhat didn't live up to my expectations. Maybe that's unfair of me, but there were some things that bugged me. While the film didn't feel overlong to me at all, it did seem a bit sluggish in the middle - which is something I would have never said of LotR. I also wasn't fond of the more aggressive use of CG effects, as opposed to the first trilogy (but I suppose that's to be expected).

It may just be that it felt a bit odd seeing and hearing all these characters I know so well doing different things than in the trilogy. Even line readings felt odd to me at first (probably due to hearing said lines in my head over the years while reading the book). The film was still good, just not quite the excellence that was delivered with LotR. Which, again, may be a bit unfair of me (they are my favorite films of all time).

I am looking forward to my second viewing - so that I can see the film on it's own terms, as opposed to comparing it to both the book and the other films. Though, I haven't yet made up my mind if I want to see it in 2D once again, or if I'll dive in for the 48fps 3D.

I will say, though, that the Riddles in the Dark sequence was all kinds of awesomeness.

No I found the same issue, I said it didn't exceed expectations but perhaps a small percentage wasn't met. I 'll tell you though after a day maybe, I thought back on the movie a lot kinder, I will be going for a second dip, but certainly aided by the interest in the new HFR format (I missed the opportunity as the local cinema's projector went bust). I think its a bloody good film on it's own, I also have to remember we are 1/3rd the way through.

[bunkz323]

Well now i have to work tomorrow, sucks cuz i was looking forward to it but i need the overtime....Now to wait till Sunday CANT WAIT!!!

[pagemaster]

Originally Posted by Will21st

DEFENSIVE TROLL ALERT!!!! see,I can do that,too!

1. Your supposed 80/20 split is nonsense and means nothing.I'm reading,hearing and seeing a lot more praise for 48 than dislike.

That is why I was objecting to this guys fanfare.

2. This is without the shadow of a doubt a game changer,wether you see it or not.

I will not be a game changer, it is simply another method similar to 70mm in the 60s, 70mm 6 track in the 80s, digital sound in the 90s, etc etc.

[Will21st]

Originally Posted by pagemaster

That is why I was objecting to this guys fanfare.



I will not be a game changer, it is simply another method similar to 70mm in the 60s, 70mm 6 track in the 80s, digital sound in the 90s, etc etc.

No,it isn't.... we'll have this discussion in 5 years,and then there's still time for you to admit I was right all along.

[pagemaster]

Originally Posted by Will21st

No,it isn't.... we'll have this discussion in 5 years,and then there's still time for you to admit I was right all along.

Its not,

The future of cinema will be 4K digital. HFR technology will be used for tentpoles the same way IMAX is being used right now to promote big pictures

Nobody will care for a movie like Stories we Tell or Trouble With a Curve in HFR...it will be a niche thing just like IMAX