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Similar question on other threads. Check my previous posts if you really want to know my opinion, but briefly:
For really old classics, I'd like a Lon Chaney box set with Phantom and Hunchback, but also the more obscure films (and in some cases, more bizarre) that Chaney did under Tod Browning's direction. the first two versions of Show Boat the 1925 Ben-Hur the original Tank Girl Freaks restored a bunch of stuff from the 50's including Attack of the 50' Woman too much stuff from the 60's and 70's to even begin here ... |
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Feb 2008
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#24 |
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Oct 2007
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Not all classics but Id like to see Larceny Inc. with Edward G. Robinson make it to Blu-ray, not available on DVD.
Some others are Young Man with a Horn, Alexander Nevsky, Old Man and the Sea (Spencer Tracy), Seconds, Inherit the Wind, Chinatown, Mon Oncle, Wages of Fear, Sanjuro, Some Came Running, Suddenly, The Ballad of Cable Hogue, Cyrano de Bergerac (Ferrer). |
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#25 |
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Mar 2008
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![]() ![]() Ben Hur Battleground love to see the series "combat" come out and rat patrol the classic horror films all the classic war films, "Apocolypse Now" Bridge on the river kwai Gone with the wind .......................when it comes right down to it, I'd love to see all the classic films on BRD |
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The entire Universal classic horror monster "Legacy collection" series
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Those 2 are great movies I actually already own the first. I would also love to see The Birds on blu
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I wouldn't want the Universal Monster movies to be compressed to hell so they could fit on the fewest discs possible. You have to remember some of these movies are very old and particulary Dracula has no original negative left so a good BD transfer would be the best way to see it short of going to the vault hopefully not too close to slim cigarettes that has the print. Last time I saw an (European) 35mm print was a very long time ago, and I'd like to get something better than that.
Dracula had a 18 mm tall negative and other Universal movies are 15.24 mm tall while a film like LotR has a 10 mm tall one, so a 18 mm b/w negative (if we had it) is of course 1.8x taller per picture height than a 10 mm negative. Using the rule of thumb that film resolution doubles about every 60 years, would make the old negative 0.45x less sharp, if both used the same emulsion and lens. Since one is b/w and b/w is sharper than colour film, and an old lens is worse than a new lens, lets leave that out for the sake of the argument (would be even more calculations). But wait. The LotR negative was scanned at 2K (83.33 pixels per mm) so the 10 mm x 24 mm final image was about 834 x 2000 pixels. Film has actually more resolution than that on the negative. So we scan the old film at 4k (166.67 pixels per mm) and we extract an usable 50% more than in 2K we get about 125 pixels per mm. 18 mm x 125 p/mm x 0.45x less sharp = ta da : 1012 pixels tall. 1012 > 834 (or 1000 > 800 in simple terms). Fine for a full height 1080p tall BD. Now as I said we don't have the negative for that one. A 4K scan of a 2nd generation copy (print/IP) is similar to a 2K scan of the negative. So we're back to the equivalent of 83.33 p/mm (2K) when we do the 4K of the second gen. 18mm (if the 2nd gen wasn't reframed ;>) x 83.33 p/mm x 0.45x less sharp = 675 pixels tall quality. 675p. Not as good as 834 pixels. But similar what you get with a 720p HDTV full height image on a TV that has some overscan.. Lets do one of the late 40's ones that had the negative. 15.24 mm x 125 p/mm x 0.54x less sharp = 1034 pixels tall. There are many factors that affect sharpness, improved techniques could be developed blah blah blah, but this is to give a rough idea. Let's take The Searchers about 19 mm tall. 19 mm x 125 p/mm x 0.60x less sharp = about 1440 pixels tall. From a second gen: 19 mm x 83.33 p/mm x 0.60 = about 960 pixels tall. So you see, slapping sloppy compressed transfers of half a century movies shouldn't be our wish, just the opposite, the highest quality thansfers and compressions to extract the last iota of remaining image quality on these rapidly aging and precious films. ![]() 20 Milliom Miles To Earth has some fairly sharp shots when they're not opticals and that's just about 12 mm tall. The other day I caught it on AMC SD and it was much softer than the BD. Remember it's full of opticals (dupes) so that makes them grainier and worse than a fim that has most shots composed of the normal original camera negative film. To answer the original question, I'd like most if not all of classic films on high definition. It's art, it's heritage, it's fun. And you haven't seen them like that in half centuries. |
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Lawrence of Arabia, Doctor Zhivago, Fanny & Alexander, Old Man & The Sea (Spencer Tracy), For Whom the Bell Tolls, Around the World in 80 Days (Michael Todd's version), The African Queen, The Sound of Music, North by Northwest... Just to name a couple. ;-)
Oh, yeah, and *all best picture winners* deserve the treatment and in the shortest order possible so I can rebuy my Best Picture collection, LOL. |
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A few of the better Bogart movies that have not been mentioned
The Big Sleep To Have and To Have Not High Sierra The Petrified Forrest Also It's a Mad, Mad, Mad World Anatomy of a Murder The Thin Man Movies It Happened One Night Gunda Din The F.B.I. Story Little Caesar Judgment at Nuremburg How to Steal a Million Breakfast at Tiffany's Angles with Dirty Faces for starters |
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#38 |
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Checked through and here are some that I definitely agree with.
The Seven Year Itch The African Queen Rebel Without A Cause The Good, The Bad, And The Ugly Big Trouble In Little China (even though that's not exactly old...but I still want it on blu...badly) Lawrence of Arabia of course |
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#39 |
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Jan 2008
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Metropolis
Ben-Hur (Silent version and remake) Nosferatu Any and all Hitchcock films, especially Vertigo and The Birds The Sound of Music Gone with the Wind The Wizard of Oz Singin' in the Rain Meet Me in St. Louis The Pirate An American in Paris My Fair Lady Finian's Rainbow Scrooge Goodbye, Mr. Chips (1969 musical) King Kong (1933) The Red Shoes |
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