Games to use Compressed Lossless eventually?

[Pelican170]

Originally Posted by Layd Dly

Interesting. I know when i fired up Resistance Last week to test my new Dual Shock 3 it came up in PCM, im pretty sure the PS3 does the audio switching in game at least for resistance as i ahvent played all the games on the list.

Well, i know that with my receiver, if i send the signal bitstreaming, then the receiver will do the decoding to show DD and if i do LPCM, it will send the DD signal as multichannel PCM. If a game had uncompressed audio, im sure it would be listed on the back of the game, as it does for 720p, 1080i..... but ive never seen a listing for Lossless audio formats, only dolby digital. Ill have to check things out when i get home...

[un4gvn94538]

did this earlier for another person. i unchecked the 5.1 and 7.1 pcm settings and it automatically bitstreamed dd . with everything checked its pcm. internal decodinig my is my guess. if you tell it that you cannot use 5.1 or 7.1 pcm it defaults to bitstreaming. this is for hdmi of course. otherwise all games will show multi channel for me.

[Pelican170]

Originally Posted by un4gvn94538

did this earlier for another person. i unchecked the 5.1 and 7.1 pcm settings and it automatically bitstreamed dd . with everything checked its pcm. internal decodinig my is my guess. if you tell it that you cannot use 5.1 or 7.1 pcm it defaults to bitstreaming. this is for hdmi of course. otherwise all games will show multi channel for me.

Exactly what I was trying to say. Mine shows all as Multichannel PCM, like what you are saying, but i dont think people understand that this does not mean its Uncompressed.

[DefTechPioElite]

Originally Posted by Pelican170

Exactly what I was trying to say. Mine shows all as Multichannel PCM, like what you are saying, but i dont think people understand that this does not mean its Uncompressed.

no, because Devil May Cry 4 show up as Dolby Digital, not PCM

[Icemage]

You'll never see games using TrueHD or DTS-HD MA. There's no reason to conserve disc space athe cost of computational power.

Video games push the computational power of consoles, not just in pure processing speed requirement, but also in memory requirement. Decoding both TrueHD and DTS-MA requires a lot of extra power a typical next generation title can't afford to spare without sacrificing other elements.

Besides, it's not like there's any equipment out there that doesn't understand LPCM. Any HDMI transport that can bitstream TrueHD or DTS-MA (HDMI 1.3) can also transport PCM 7.1, so there's no advantage to be gained from the compression.

[Lucy Diamond]

At this point, I think True Sound would just make the games shorter.

I hope they just keep the gameplay fun and addictive. True...Lossless audio would add to that, but I don't think it's necessary to make a game great.

[ps3andlovinit]

Originally Posted by Pelican170

f a game had uncompressed audio, im sure it would be listed on the back of the game, as it does for 720p, 1080i.

Sadly not the case AFAIK.

But Resistance is 7.1 uncompressed PCM

http://blogs.ign.com/chubigans/2007/01/12/43212/

[Layd Dly]

Originally Posted by ps3andlovinit

Sadly not the case AFAIK.

But Resistance is 7.1 uncompressed PCM

http://blogs.ign.com/chubigans/2007/01/12/43212/

You beat me to posting it.

[shido]

Originally Posted by ps3andlovinit

Sadly not the case AFAIK.

But Resistance is 7.1 uncompressed PCM

http://blogs.ign.com/chubigans/2007/01/12/43212/

You know, all the PS3 games that I have bought in Japan list both Linear PCM 5.1/Dolby Digital 5.1 on the back of the box. I currently have DMC4, COD4, Ryu ga Gotoku Kenzan, and Uncharted (with Uncharted actually showing Linear PCM 5.1/7.1; Dolby Digital 5.1; and DTS Digital Surround 5.1) Do these games not show those audio options on versions outside of Japan?

[Layd Dly]

Originally Posted by shido

You know, all the PS3 games that I have bought in Japan list both Linear PCM 5.1/Dolby Digital 5.1 on the back of the box. I currently have DMC4, COD4, Ryu ga Gotoku Kenzan, and Uncharted (with Uncharted actually showing Linear PCM 5.1/7.1; Dolby Digital 5.1; and DTS Digital Surround 5.1) Do these games not show those audio options on versions outside of Japan?

Probably because most american dont even know what DD or DTS is much less Linear PCM 5.1/7.1 especially when it comes to video games.

[un4gvn94538]

Originally Posted by Layd Dly

Probably because most american dont even know what DD or DTS is much less Linear PCM 5.1/7.1 especially when it comes to video games.

for dvd being a dominat format on the market for years and lists the audio on the back, us americans must be really dumb to not know what dts or dd is

[Layd Dly]

Originally Posted by un4gvn94538

for dvd being a dominat format on the market for years and lists the audio on the back, us americans must be really dumb to not know what dts or dd is

Its sad but very true, they also watch these dvd's through a mono tv speaker. Surround sound to the average person means 5 speakers each with sound.

[un4gvn94538]

Originally Posted by Layd Dly

Its sad but very true, they also watch these dvd's through a mono tv speaker. Surround sound to the average person means 5 speakers each with sound.

i was being sarcastic

[ps3andlovinit]

Originally Posted by shido

Do these games not show those audio options on versions outside of Japan?

Nope. Not in N.A.

Uncharted lists Dolby etc but not the specifics.

Resistance has the THX logo as required .. but not the channels etc...

Sucks eh.

[un4gvn94538]

Originally Posted by ps3andlovinit

Nope. Not in N.A.

Uncharted lists Dolby etc but not the specifics.

Resistance has the THX logo as required .. but not the channels etc...

Sucks eh.

since games vary in thier audio, i think they should include what it is on the back along with resolution

[DefTechPioElite]

Originally Posted by un4gvn94538

since games vary in thier audio, i think they should include what it is on the back along with resolution

yeah definitely, uncharted and LAIR are the only ones ive seen where the packaging lists Linear PCM 5.1/7.1 as an option

edit:forgot LAIR