Separates vs A/V receiver - Page 2 - Blu-ray Forum

Kirsty_Mc · 04-16-2008, 01:37 AM

Separates have the following advantages:-

You can mix and match pre and power sections.
You don't get lumbered with a useless analogue internal tuner... you can buy a DAB separate tuner.
You can use technologies (such as valve amplification) which are not available in a receiver.
You can adopt monoblock power amplification.
There is additional shielding between the pre and the power stages.
The stack looks impressive.
If you go for valve amplification, you can dispense with central heating.
You have a sufficient wad to even think about separates!!!

... amongst others.

red_5ive · 04-16-2008, 01:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Bigalsworth

I think I have pretty much decided to go with separates. I like the fact of being able to upgrade different parts of it at different times instead of everything in one shot. Are there any brands that I should pay pretty close attention to? I've heard lots of talk of the Intregra 9.8, and also emotiva, are there any other good brands?
I'm going to be running paradigm speakers, monitor 9's or up. Thanks for all the info given already.

The Integra 9.8 received a favorable review from hometheaterhifi.com.

I'm running Pinnacle Aerogels for my mains, and I remember when these released they were compared over and over with the Paradigms. The Pinnacles are a very good match with my Emotiva amp, I'd expect the same on the 9's. I'd recommend Emotiva for anyone on a modest budget since they sell factory direct. Outlaw Audio also has a good rep for audiophile quality gear at factory direct prices. Parasound, Anthem, Sunfire, and Rotel are some other names that get a lot of talk before you get into the likes of Mcintosh, Krell, and Mark Levinson. It really depends on your budget.

Lucy Diamond · 04-16-2008, 02:02 AM

Seperates will always be better, but the money and the hassle are huge things to think about, especially if you go tube.

Scooby Blu · 04-16-2008, 02:08 AM

This is IT !

I want this so bad but I need the wife to "agree" with the deal.

link : http://us.marantz.com/Products/2290.asp

red_5ive · 04-16-2008, 02:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Scooby Blu

This is IT !

I want this so bad but I need the wife to "agree" with the deal.

link : http://us.marantz.com/Products/2290.asp

Thanks for the link... been waiting to hear some news about this one.

MatrixS2000 · 04-16-2008, 02:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Bigalsworth

I think I have pretty much decided to go with separates. I like the fact of being able to upgrade different parts of it at different times instead of everything in one shot. Are there any brands that I should pay pretty close attention to? I've heard lots of talk of the Intregra 9.8, and also emotiva, are there any other good brands?
I'm going to be running paradigm speakers, monitor 9's or up. Thanks for all the info given already.

I've been running separates for about 4-5yrs now and will never go back. I have the Integra DTC 9.8 (which replaced my Lexicon MC1 that I had to force myself to pull out of the rack

), 2 Parasound HCA2205 amplifiers into Paradigm Studios all around and an Earthquake unpowered sub (I use 2 channels from one of the Parasound amps to power the sub).

Spend some money on amplification - it will do your speakers good! The grip the Parasounds have on my speakers is one of the first things I noticed. The Parasounds are the core of my system imo.

Drawback - I have seen up to 10 amps being pulled at times so prepare yourself for higher electrical bills!

Scooby Blu · 04-16-2008, 02:46 AM

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Originally Posted by red_5ive

Thanks for the link... been waiting to hear some news about this one.

Thanks !

Scooby Blu · 04-16-2008, 02:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MatrixS2000

I've been running separates for about 4-5yrs now and will never go back. I have the Integra DTC 9.8 (which replaced my Lexicon MC1 that I had to force myself to pull out of the rack

), 2 Parasound HCA2205 amplifiers into Paradigm Studios all around and an Earthquake unpowered sub (I use 2 channels from one of the Parasound amps to power the sub).

Spend some money on amplification - it will do your speakers good! The grip the Parasounds have on my speakers is one of the first things I noticed. The Parasounds are the core of my system imo.

Drawback - I have seen up to 10 amps being pulled at times so prepare yourself for higher electrical bills!

Very wise indeed ! Oh well; an extra 50 bucks ! Well worth it indeed !

Bigalsworth · 04-16-2008, 04:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MatrixS2000

I've been running separates for about 4-5yrs now and will never go back. I have the Integra DTC 9.8 (which replaced my Lexicon MC1 that I had to force myself to pull out of the rack

), 2 Parasound HCA2205 amplifiers into Paradigm Studios all around and an Earthquake unpowered sub (I use 2 channels from one of the Parasound amps to power the sub).

Spend some money on amplification - it will do your speakers good! The grip the Parasounds have on my speakers is one of the first things I noticed. The Parasounds are the core of my system imo.

Drawback - I have seen up to 10 amps being pulled at times so prepare yourself for higher electrical bills!

how do you like the integra DTC 9.8 it seems to be very popular and a good price I think?

Bigalsworth · 04-16-2008, 06:30 AM

are sunfire products not sold in Canada? they don't have canada in their list of countries they sell in

werewuf · 04-16-2008, 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by MatrixS2000

I have the Integra DTC 9.8 (which replaced my Lexicon MC1 that I had to force myself to pull out of the rack

),

Why did you replace the Lexicon with the Integra?

ManUtd · 04-16-2008, 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by werewuf

Why did you replace the Lexicon with the Integra?

I'm guessing he did it for the new audio formats.

werewuf · 04-16-2008, 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Art Vandelay

I'm guessing he did it for the new audio formats.

Your up late, hope you live on the West Coast....

ManUtd · 04-16-2008, 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by werewuf

Your up late, hope you live on the West Coast....

I'm in the Bay Area.

werewuf · 04-16-2008, 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Art Vandelay

I'm in the Bay Area.

San Jose myself...

werewuf · 04-16-2008, 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Art Vandelay

I'm in the Bay Area.

I guess that's where the Elite live....

ManUtd · 04-16-2008, 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by werewuf

San Jose myself...

Ha ha same here. Do you know of a good AV shop where I can check out some decent audio gear besides Century Stereo and SF Stereo? I've been toying with the idea of going with the Integra plus a multi-channel amp.

werewuf · 04-16-2008, 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Art Vandelay

Ha ha same here. Do you know of a good AV shop where I can check out some decent audio gear besides Century Stereo and SF Stereo? I've been toying with the idea of going with the Integra plus a multi-channel amp.

Century does have Integra, however the New Audible Difference in Palo Alto is a great store as well as Hermary's in San Carlos and Sound Perfection in Menlo Park. Don't like your 94?

Ectoplasm · 04-16-2008, 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scooby Blu

This is IT !

I want this so bad but I need the wife to "agree" with the deal.

link : http://us.marantz.com/Products/2290.asp

Ooohhhh.. I want that too!

It looks like a big piece of chocolate that I really want to take a bite of, and listen to at the same time!

Bluhorizon · 04-16-2008, 11:29 AM

As far as controllers go (pre/pro), there is still very limited choice available with the new lossless audio formats. I have been waiting since June last year for a decent pre/pro to replace my Meridian 568.2. No such luck so far. I will never go the receiver route as I have 2 stereo amps and 3 mono amps that give far greater flexibility/sound quality than a receiver.

04-16-2008, 01:37 AM	#21
Kirsty_Mc Power Member Top contributor Member since:Oct 2007 Location:UK Blu-ray collection:536 Blu-ray reviews: 21	Separates have the following advantages:- You can mix and match pre and power sections. You don't get lumbered with a useless analogue internal tuner... you can buy a DAB separate tuner. You can use technologies (such as valve amplification) which are not available in a receiver. You can adopt monoblock power amplification. There is additional shielding between the pre and the power stages. The stack looks impressive. If you go for valve amplification, you can dispense with central heating. You have a sufficient wad to even think about separates!!! ... amongst others.

04-16-2008, 02:08 AM	#24
Scooby Blu Power Member Top ranked HT gallery Member since:Apr 2008 Home Theater Gallery:7	This is it ! June 08 This is IT ! I want this so bad but I need the wife to "agree" with the deal. link : http://us.marantz.com/Products/2290.asp

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