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Old 04-26-2008, 10:53 PM   #1
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OK, i titled it next spiderman as opposed to spiderman 4 because i also have ideas in here as to how the franchise could move forward if tobey maguire & kirsten dunst do not reprise their roles

Even if sam raimi doesn't carry on, a great director like nolan wouldn't be out of one's imagination to take over the helm now would it

If tobey & dunst reprise their roles they should carry on with the symbiote storyline, if they don't carry on, a semi-reboot is in order

I think to take over as peter parker & spiderman, as also noted by many others, Jake Gylenhall would be a great choice

I'm still open to suggestions as who would take over as Mary Jane, Natalie Portman, Megan Fox, but all these ladies seem to lack in one way or another the simple, 'MJ' factor that the actress needs

The story wouldn't continue on from the 3rd movie but instead focus on a parker employed by JJ jameson @ the daily planet & the current actor would reprise his role, since he's so good at it

This way, his origin story & how he got to new york into the job would already be covered from the raimi trilogy

The main villain in this could be the lizard man, maybe even have a couple of others such as the shocker, vulture & rhino cameo in some form or other for future installments

The one after that then could possibly carry on from raimi's third movie with the symbiote storyline & follow on to carnage & maybe more excitingly finish right at the toxin saga of the story

So, what you guys & Gals think
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Old 04-26-2008, 11:12 PM   #2
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I'm still open to suggestions as who would take over as Mary Jane, Natalie Portman, Megan Fox, but all these ladies seem to lack in one way or another the simple, 'MJ' factor that the actress needs
Elisha Cuthbert seem right for the part and she was gonna replace Kirsten Dunst anyway so why not...


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The one after that then could possibly carry on from raimi's third movie with the symbiote storyline & follow on to carnage & maybe more excitingly finish right at the toxin saga of the story
I like this idea to be the subplot of Spider-man 4 to lead up to Spider-Man 5 but SM4 should be focused on The Lizard tho...
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Old 04-26-2008, 11:18 PM   #3
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Elisha Cuthbert seem right for the part and she was gonna replace Kirsten Dunst anyway so why not...


I like this idea to be the subplot of Spider-man 4 to lead up to Spider-Man 5 but SM4 should be focused on The Lizard tho...
Hmm, i agree, get in the whole cast like i said before & give em room to breathe in their roles within the lizard story THEN get back to the symbiote story

Simply put, this would be perfect way to give spidey a semi-reboot & then carry on from raimi's third movie with the whole symbiote plot

But like before, i would also like them to cameo some other villains, although not as big a draw, cameo's can set up spidey 10,11, 12 etc or whatever they wanna call them
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Old 04-26-2008, 11:26 PM   #4
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Hmm, i agree, get in the whole cast like i said before & give em room to breathe in their roles within the lizard story THEN get back to the symbiote story

Simply put, this would be perfect way to give spidey a semi-reboot & then carry on from raimi's third movie with the whole symbiote plot

But like before, i would also like them to cameo some other villains, although not as big a draw, cameo's can set up spidey 10,11, 12 etc or whatever they wanna call them
I'd like to see cameos of Electro and Morbius...
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Old 04-26-2008, 11:30 PM   #5
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I'd like to see cameos of Electro and Morbius...
Haven't seen morbious, will have to look him up, sounds cool

BUT you KNOW the symbiote storyline absolutely PWNS!! in spidey universe
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Old 04-26-2008, 11:40 PM   #6
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Symbiote story is over. Venom is dead, Carnage will never be in a Spidey movie (for good reason).

The Daily Planet is Superman, by the way.
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Old 04-26-2008, 11:41 PM   #7
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Symbiote story is over. Venom is dead, Carnage will never be in a Spidey movie (for good reason).

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HA HA, thanks for correcting mistakes huh

Why's the symbiote story over & why won't carnage be in a spidey movie?
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Old 04-26-2008, 11:42 PM   #8
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Symbiote story is over. Venom is dead, Carnage will never be in a Spidey movie (for good reason).

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yes venom is dead but you're forgeting one thing tell me what it is, the "Symbiote storyline" can still go on... you can't have Venom without Carnage simply put...

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Old 04-26-2008, 11:48 PM   #9
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Cuthbert as MJ gets me in the seat immediately. There is still a lot that could be done with this franchise for many more movies.

I don't really think they could make Carnage as truly disturbing as he is and kill the way he does in a PG-13 movie so it would lack.
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Old 04-27-2008, 12:00 AM   #10
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Cuthbert as MJ gets me in the seat immediately. There is still a lot that could be done with this franchise for many more movies.

I don't really think they could make Carnage as truly disturbing as he is and kill the way he does in a PG-13 movie so it would lack.
I'm sure theres a way to show him killing but like only focus on his face & the emotions it shows rather than the blood, guts etc usually added into the comics i'm guessing, just a small way to get around the graphic violence he usually shows but still show it with enough killer intent you get what he intends to do
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Old 04-27-2008, 12:20 AM   #11
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I'm sure theres a way to show him killing but like only focus on his face & the emotions it shows rather than the blood, guts etc usually added into the comics i'm guessing, just a small way to get around the graphic violence he usually shows but still show it with enough killer intent you get what he intends to do
Yeah you're right, it could just be implied I guess that he's gruesome without showing it. If I remember correctly, and it's been a while, Carnage was formed from a drop of Peter's blood mixed with the symbiote right?
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Yeah you're right, it could just be implied I guess that he's gruesome without showing it. If I remember correctly, and it's been a while, Carnage was formed from a drop of Peter's blood mixed with the symbiote right?
BAH, don't have a clue, looks like time to hit wikipedia & refresh lol

But the symbiote storyline is a very good one to adapt from IMO, very story driven & CAN span more than one movie & be entertaining if done properly

Others like a lizard. rhino etc story seem to be one off movie deals with maybe further cameo appearances
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Old 04-27-2008, 12:29 AM   #13
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Yeah you're right, it could just be implied I guess that he's gruesome without showing it. If I remember correctly, and it's been a while, Carnage was formed from a drop of Peter's blood mixed with the symbiote right?
Carnage is the result of a spawning of a separate extraterrestrial symbiote by Venom. This symbiote bonded with serial killer Cletus Kasady, creating one of Spider-Man's most murderous adversaries. Kasady's bond with the symbiote is far more profound than that of Venom's; they have bonded so completely, they refer to themselves as "I" instead of "We".

like Venom took over Brock...
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Carnage is the result of a spawning of a separate extraterrestrial symbiote by Venom. This symbiote bonded with serial killer Cletus Kasady, creating one of Spider-Man's most murderous adversaries. Kasady's bond with the symbiote is far more profound than that of Venom's; they have bonded so completely, they refer to themselves as "I" instead of "We".

like Venom took over Brock...
Ahhhh, yes that is right. Ya know, it was Ultimate Spider-man I was thinking of.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carnage...timate_Carnage
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yes venom is dead but you're forgeting one thing tell me what it is, the "Symbiote storyline" can still go on... you can't have Venom without Carnage simply put...
Sure you can. You just don't introduce Cletus Kasady in the films. The symbiote was part of the revenge, redemption, and forgiveness themes in SM3. There's no reason to bring it back.
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I think they have an opening if they wanted to bring the symbiote back. Doesn't Dr. Conners have a piece of it in his possession? It could grow into a full new symbiote.

But that brings up my other point. We've seen Dr. Curt Conners (or at least he was mentioned in the 1st movie) in all the movies, but still no Lizard. I like the idea somebody proposed once that Doc Connors becomes the Lizard and while Spidey is trying to stop/help/cure him, he also has to contend with Kraven who has been hired to bring in the Lizard.
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I think they have an opening if they wanted to bring the symbiote back. Doesn't Dr. Conners have a piece of it in his possession? It could grow into a full new symbiote.

But that brings up my other point. We've seen Dr. Curt Conners (or at least he was mentioned in the 1st movie) in all the movies, but still no Lizard. I like the idea somebody proposed once that Doc Connors becomes the Lizard and while Spidey is trying to stop/help/cure him, he also has to contend with Kraven who has been hired to bring in the Lizard.
3 words KRAVEN THE HUNTER!
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THIS WOULD MAKE A GREAT VILLIAN BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A VILLAN THAT WOULD REQUIRE SOME GOOD SPECIAL EFFECTS LIKE MYSTERIO OR MAYBE EVEN HOBGOBLIN BUT WHATEVER THEY DO, DON'T GIVE HIM A RETARDED COSTUME LIKE THE "NEW" GREEN GOBLIN. THAT REALLY MESSED UP SPIDERMAN 3. I AM AN AVID SPIDERMAN FAN AND I REALLY BELIEVE THEY SCREWED UP THE FRANCHISE WITH #3. THEY TRIED TO PUT TOO MUCH INTO ONE MOVIE. THE VENOM STORYLINE SHOULD'VE BEEN DONE ALL BY ITSELF. INSTEAD THEY ADDED ALL THESE OTHER STORYLINES WHICH REALLY TOOK AWAY FROM ONE THE BEST AND MORE FAVORABLE STORYLINES WRITTEN. TRUTHFULLY SPEAKING, THERE ARE REALLY ALOT OF INTERERSTING AND COLORFUL CHARACTERS THAT CAN BE MADE INTO ONE HELL OF A SPIDERMAN FLICK. HOW ABOUT KRAVEN THE HUNTER, PUMA, AND A LIL BIT OF THE BLACKCAT? EXCELSIOR TRUE BELIEVERS!!!!
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I think they should go back to one villain only. Put some kind of twist into the story. Make it hard for Parker to figure out what is going on. Don't make it a by the numbers story.
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Sure you can. You just don't introduce Cletus Kasady in the films. The symbiote was part of the revenge, redemption, and forgiveness themes in SM3. There's no reason to bring it back.
Actually, the symbiote was necessary to create Carnage wasn't it? I think a good Spider-man 4 could be Spider-man and Venom having to team up to fight Carnage. I don't think Venom died at the end of 3 like a lot of people say, and I also don't think an R rating would be necessary. Lots of graphic violence can be found in PG-13 movies recently.

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