CNN's BS PS3 article - Blu-ray Forum

nhaase · 04-30-2007, 04:16 PM

http://money.cnn.com/2007/04/27/maga...ystation.biz2/

What makes this story BS? Here, direct from the article:

"For all that innovation in the PS3, one thing didn't change: the controller, that handheld mess of buttons so confusing to non-gamers. Sure, Kuturagi made it work wirelessly, which has no doubt saved the world from a few broken ankles and smashed glasses, but the controller itself looks identical to the one found on the PS2.

Why change something that is already installed in 200 million homes worldwide? Answer: because there are more people in those homes that don't play games, and hundreds of millions more homes to win over.

Nintendo's answer to Ken Kuturagi -- Mario Bros. creator and games world legend Shigeru Miyamoto -- knew this better than most. That's why he designed a revolutionary controller that is sensitive to motion, not button-mashing. Everyone knows how to swing a golf club or a boxing glove in a Wii game. You just swing the controller....

...The Wii may not be the most powerful console ever built, but it is the smallest and lightest. Its chip is not faster than Sony's cell, but it does use less electricity. In short, it looks more like the future.

"

First, the PS2 controller was widely considered the best ever. So yes, why change it? Second, for the last paragraph, they forget that the PS3 controller is motion-sensitive, as well. Also, having the wiimote makes it more revolutionary than the Blu-ray drive, Cell processor, and a motion-sensitive controller? I just don't get how this author came to those conclusions.

I'm not challenging the Wii's success. Its price point is very friendly, helping win over people who don't play video games. But the PS3 is just so different from it; it wins over home theater enthusiasts. Who here bought a PS3 because it was the cheapest blu-ray player and have or will be getting at least one game for it?

sore_and_crucified · 04-30-2007, 04:23 PM

A rather silly write-up indeed. Makes you wonder if these people even know the subject they are writing about... I bet he still uses a PS2 and Xbox and doesn't even know what the PS3 and 360 look like.

stockstar1138 · 04-30-2007, 04:42 PM

Yeah, its such as mess or buttons. They should have made it like the controller of the two preceeding winners of their respective generations.....oh wait they did. Well, they should have made it like the 360s......oh wait all thats different is they switched up the d-pad with a stick. well they should have made it innovative and motion sensing.....oh wait they did.

I know that if they would have just changed that controller, this thing would be a success. Man! How could they be soooo stupid! I mean only 200 million people bought the PS1 and PS2. There are 6 billion people in the world. You know what that means 5.8 billion people in the world did not buy PS1 or PS2 because they were very, very confused about the controller and the same is with PS3.

And I mean lets talk about the future here. Small and weak is the way to go. Hell, I saw this little cheapo laptop at walmart yesterday. Thing ran at 577Mhz. I was like Dude! thats the future. Its small and weak!!!!!

Off topic: HOw do you get it so you can type in your BDs, PS3 games, and TV setup underneath all your comments.

nhaase · 04-30-2007, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by stockstar1138

Off topic: HOw do you get it so you can type in your BDs, PS3 games, and TV setup underneath all your comments.

Click on your username at the top-right of the screen and go to "edit signature."

MasterXeus · 04-30-2007, 05:17 PM

I think everyone needs to read the whole article before posting a comment.

My girlfriend is a non-gamer and she said the same thing. There are to many buttons on the PS2/3 controller and Xbox/Xbox 360 controllers as well. The Wii controller is simpler to use compare to the PS2/3, Xbox, Xbox 360 controllers, so I can understand why he said this.

I also think the “In short, it looks more like the future.” I believe this was directed towards this whole part of the article.

Nintendo took a different tack. When you buy a videogame console, the company says, you want to play games. Period. A console is not a Swiss Army knife. It makes sense to squeeze more functionality into your cell phone because you carry that device around everywhere. When it comes to the interactive fun box in your living room, however, it makes sense to simply make that more fun. If you want a DVD player, you'll buy a DVD player.
The Wii may not be the most powerful console ever built, but it is the smallest and lightest.

Its chip is not faster than Sony's cell, but it does use less electricity. In short, it looks more like the future

I tend to agree with this. I buy a videogame console to play games, everything else is an added bonus. The PS3 on the other hand, I bought because at the time it was the cheapest and best blu-ray player out there. Being able to play video games on it was the added bonus for me. If the PS3 did not play Blu-ray movies, with its current selection games I would have waited to buy the PS3 down the road when more games I’m interested in playing come out.

It looks more like the future statement I believe he was saying that the future of video games console is for it to be only a game console, like the Wii. Not something that will run your entire house, although that would be cool.

nhaase · 04-30-2007, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by MasterXeus

It looks more like the future statement I believe he was saying that the future of video games console is for it to be only a game console, like the Wii. Not something that will run your entire house, although that would be cool.

Actually, the past of video game consoles is where they are only game consoles. So the article is then saying that the future of video game consoles is that they won't change in their usage, whereas MS and Sony want their systems to be integrated more into the entertainment center. Nintendo took the same route they always have, which gives them a niche market.

I'm fine with the Wii doing that, but I prefer the PS3's approach of having the integrated BD player, because that's one less component for me to buy. And the whole part of the slower processor looking more like the future is a comment I believe is complete crap. If the processors don't get faster, then how can games be made more revolutionary. The same goes w/ the discs used. If higher-capacity discs aren't used, we'll reach a threshold capacity, and then only multiple discs will be able to be used for games. I really disagreed w/ the "future" part of his story. Other than the wiimote, which I do think is very cool, the Wii is a throwback to me. This isn't all bad, as I still think back to the good ole' days when you spent $200 for the system, two controllers, and a game. With the NES you got two games! But I think that the only part of the Wii that's the future is the motion-sensing.

Frode · 04-30-2007, 06:46 PM

Nintendo didn't go for a niche market - they went for the family and friends market. They went for the everyday joe6pack and his wife and two kids. They focused on making games fun and more interactive. PS3 and Xbox360 however focus on the hardcore gamers that want high powered graphics and games you immerse yourself in. This is actually a smaller market than the Wii's, but you have a higher volume of games per buyer.

IMO Nintendo's done a stroke of genius in that they're no longer competing with Sony and Microsoft and have left them to compete with each other instead. I can easily see a gamer buying a Wii in addition to a PS3 or 360 simply due to price, but you'll have more of a division in PS3 vs 360.

nhaase · 04-30-2007, 07:01 PM

Frode, well put. I say "niche" in the fact that they're about the only product in that market now, they're specializing in the "just video games" market. Like I said, I'm not knocking the Wii in any way, but in my opinion, saying that the Wii is the future of gaming isn't really so, other than the remote. The Wii accomplishes its goals very well, but it's a tried and true method for them, they've always gone for that market in their games. Now it's just amplified since Sony and MS have gone in a very different direction.

I think both directions work, but I think Sony and MS are thinking that since so many kids who grew playing video games are now getting out of college and getting jobs, they can make systems more robust for these people. I know when I saw the PS3's price I didn't even flinch, especially when I saw it's capabilities. However, for joe6pack, it's outrageous, so the competition is less direct. It's like the charger vs. the mustang right now. The charger's a 4-door car, meant for the person who needs that practicality but still wants some performance, while the mustang is staying as a 2-door model to keep the pony car market.

ProvenFlipper · 04-30-2007, 07:28 PM

I guess he never saw the original controller that was supposed to come with the PS3. People flipped out and they immediately went back to their bread and butter. Personally, I think the Playstation controller is the best controller for video games. It works well for all types of games. Sports, action, adventure, FPS, you name it and the PS controller handles it well. For the record, my favorite contoller was the N64 controller, but the configuration only worked well for first party games and shooters, IMO.

I also think eventually the Wii will fall into the same trap as the other Nintendo systems as of late. 3rd party support will soon start to waiver and soon their will only be first party games on the system.

bryan915 · 04-30-2007, 07:53 PM

My roommate has a Wii and I have a PS3, so I've played both a lot. Although the Wiimotes are a cool innovation, they still have their faults. They don't always connect to the Wii and you can only connect them at specific points in the game; in Tiger Woods, the controllers are sporadic and will make you swing or take a half swing without doing anything; and they suck up batteries and can only be recharged with a $40 third-party add-on kit. In my opinion the only reason the Wii controllers got so much hype is because Nintendo advertised them better because they are the only thing that sets the Wii apart from the other two systems. My roommate just got Super Paper Mario, and although the game play kind of cool, the graphics could have been done on the 64 (the main boss is simply a triangle with a other shapes on him to give him a face) and there is no dialogue (all text). To me the Wii just has a lot of publicity surrounding it because of its price point and because of the gimmics they have been advertising with the controllers. Once you get down to it, the games are really pretty crappy. Sure there aren't that many PS3 games out and everyone seems to be complaining about that fact but if you look past the gimmicky controller of the Wii, you basically have a whole bunch of C- games that were rushed to market just to be out. The Wii games I have played seem to be put out simply to make use of and to display the capabilities of the Wiimotes. Not a single one of them has shown any depth, a decent plot, or anything that blew me away. As for the part in the article about the controllers being better for new gamers because they allow more than just button mashing, the author obviously has never seen anyone play boxing on WiiSports because all that is is flailing the controller every which way, and half the time the Wii doesn't even register your punches.

On a sidenote, I was at EB Games and the salesman was telling some poor kid how the 360 is superior to the PS3. He gave him such "facts" as: the power supply is in the PS3 which causes it to overheat all the time, the 360 makes use of 1080p in all of its games whereas the PS3 does not, and there are no games really coming out for the PS3 that won't be on the 360. Having owned a 360 prior to my PS3, the salesman was an idiot. My 360 overheated and locked up about every time I played it. My PS3 on the otherhand, has been kept on for multiple days straight and still runs as quite as a mouse. OK, I'm done ranting.

The Don · 04-30-2007, 07:58 PM

he just wanted to make love with Nintendo for a few paragraphs and call it an article...

the controller?...what a tool..

Blu Tiger · 04-30-2007, 08:38 PM

I like the PS3 controller, but I think the 360's controller is better. And the wii sucks because it's not even HD. The only game I play is Zelda, and I'd rather use a regular controller to play it rather than using the nunchuck.

stockstar1138 · 04-30-2007, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by bryan915

On a sidenote, I was at EB Games and the salesman was telling some poor kid how the 360 is superior to the PS3. He gave him such "facts" as: the power supply is in the PS3 which causes it to overheat all the time, the 360 makes use of 1080p in all of its games whereas the PS3 does not, and there are no games really coming out for the PS3 that won't be on the 360. Having owned a 360 prior to my PS3, the salesman was an idiot. My 360 overheated and locked up about every time I played it. My PS3 on the otherhand, has been kept on for multiple days straight and still runs as quite as a mouse. OK, I'm done ranting.

Thats so sad. I feel bad for that kid when he gets home and gets 3rl, or disc scratching and quickly realizes the only game he can play in 1080p is virtua tennis.

blitz6speed · 04-30-2007, 08:52 PM

The Wii is utter garbage. There isnt a decent GAME worth playing on the damn thing. Honestly, i really tried to give it a chance. The system has NOTHING worthwhile on it, especially since i played Zelda on the cube. Im still waiting for a reason to own the Wii.

Smallville206 · 04-30-2007, 08:58 PM

I'm guessing the writer is uninformed on the subject he is writing about. There will always be people who think everything is complicated, hence the running of the how do I program my VCR joke for so many years.

Apollo182 · 04-30-2007, 09:49 PM

i have both a wii and a ps3. i waited out for 3 days for the ps3 just to be clear this was my console of choice, i came across a wii and bought it to play different games. as far as wii vs. ps3. my choice is the ps3 all the way. it does everything like the guy said in the article, which is great. the wii is for when my parents come over and want to play games. pops loves playing games on the wii due to the controller. then when i showed him RR7 and turned on the motion control, he liked that too, especially the hd quality. for me the wii is for quick games of tennis, warioware and VC console games. i did buy SSX Blur for the wii and this is a blast to play but its hard to play for hours on end. this is the true fault of the wii, it is impossible to play for any length of time due to THE controllers. this is the flaw of only using motion controlled controllers. Zelda to me was impossible to play with the wii, i hated it. my dog is actually afraid of the controllers due to me swinging around. with the ps3 i can play RR7 with motion and then switch over to R:Fom for a while. at the moment i dont think i have played an actual wii game in over a month. as for the ps3 its on everyday, playing a movie, Folding, games, music, and functioning as a Apple tv sort of(Movie trailers in HD on the ps3 Rock). oh and i dont own a 360 cuz there crap.

MasterXeus · 04-30-2007, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by kiddtigger

I like the PS3 controller, but I think the 360's controller is better. And the wii sucks because it's not even HD. The only game I play is Zelda, and I'd rather use a regular controller to play it rather than using the nunchuck.

I agree with you on the controllers, How's Zelda? While visiting my friends, I didn't have a lot time to play Zelda on the Wii. The nunchuck took a little while to get use to, I made it to where you buy the slingshot. Up to that point it was pretty boring, does it get better?

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Originally Posted by stockstar1138

Thats so sad. I feel bad for that kid when he gets home and gets 3rl, or disc scratching and quickly realizes the only game he can play in 1080p is virtua tennis.

I agree that if the salesman at EB games said all that, then he or she gave incorrect information. I would also have to disagree that just because you buy a 360 doesn't mean you'll have overheating problems, disc scratching, the famous red light flash, etc...
There’s more than on game that’s 1080p on the Xbox 360, according to the back of Xbox 360 game cases.

jorg · 04-30-2007, 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by MasterXeus

I think everyone needs to read the whole article before posting a comment.

My girlfriend is a non-gamer and she said the same thing. There are to many buttons on the PS2/3 controller and Xbox/Xbox 360 controllers as well. The Wii controller is simpler to use compare to the PS2/3, Xbox, Xbox 360 controllers, so I can understand why he said this.

I also think the “In short, it looks more like the future.” I believe this was directed towards this whole part of the article.

Nintendo took a different tack. When you buy a videogame console, the company says, you want to play games. Period. A console is not a Swiss Army knife. It makes sense to squeeze more functionality into your cell phone because you carry that device around everywhere. When it comes to the interactive fun box in your living room, however, it makes sense to simply make that more fun. If you want a DVD player, you'll buy a DVD player.
The Wii may not be the most powerful console ever built, but it is the smallest and lightest.

Its chip is not faster than Sony's cell, but it does use less electricity. In short, it looks more like the future

I tend to agree with this. I buy a videogame console to play games, everything else is an added bonus. The PS3 on the other hand, I bought because at the time it was the cheapest and best blu-ray player out there. Being able to play video games on it was the added bonus for me. If the PS3 did not play Blu-ray movies, with its current selection games I would have waited to buy the PS3 down the road when more games I’m interested in playing come out.

It looks more like the future statement I believe he was saying that the future of video games console is for it to be only a game console, like the Wii. Not something that will run your entire house, although that would be cool.

i do not want to be rude but sony will be perfectly fine if even only half of each last gen console owners upgraded that still more then 100 million and do you think those people wanna learn how to play there favorit game from the last gen console all over agein becuase the controller is different? try to image in playing a N64 game on the game cube or wii? have fun learning agien

i like this quote

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Nintendo took a different tack. When you buy a videogame console, the company says, you want to play games. Period. A console is not a Swiss Army knife. It makes sense to squeeze more functionality into your cell phone because you carry that device around everywhere. When it comes to the interactive fun box in your living room, however, it makes sense to simply make that more fun. If you want a DVD player, you'll buy a DVD player.
The Wii may not be the most powerful console ever built, but it is the smallest and lightest.

wow thats pritty funny if every one did that i think i wold have to move all my stuff into a diffrent room. using is anolagy you by a tv to watch somthing and u buy speakers to hear somthing i know a tone of people that use there built in tv speakers

or lets try this you buy a clock to keep time whens the last time you have seen a night stand clock that could only tell time .but we could use this statement against Nintendo its self you buy a wii to play wii games you don`t buy a wii to play game cube and N64 games? so why are they offing stuff like that? but in all im not going to lose any sleep over this i know how it feels for some one to yell at you to right something even though you know its not true or its retarted

stockstar1138 · 05-01-2007, 12:34 AM

I would also have to disagree that just because you buy a 360 doesn't mean you'll have overheating problems, disc scratching, the famous red light flash, etc...
There’s more than on game that’s 1080p on the Xbox 360, according to the back of Xbox 360 game cases.[/QUOTE]

I know, but the 360 is much more prone to hardware malfunctions than the ps3. and i can count the games on one hand that can play in 1080p on a 360. i doubt we will see that many in the future, as their trademark game, halo 3, is not going 1080p.

blitz6speed · 05-01-2007, 12:44 AM

My first 360 died on me about 8 months into owning it, it was a launch unit. My 2nd one is fine so far and gets heavy use. My cousin is on his 4th 360, if it wasnt for NBA2K7 online, he wouldnt put up with this crap, but he is addicted to the game.

04-30-2007, 04:16 PM	#1
nhaase Special Member Member since:Mar 2007 Trading Score:2	CNN's BS PS3 article http://money.cnn.com/2007/04/27/maga...ystation.biz2/ What makes this story BS? Here, direct from the article: "For all that innovation in the PS3, one thing didn't change: the controller, that handheld mess of buttons so confusing to non-gamers. Sure, Kuturagi made it work wirelessly, which has no doubt saved the world from a few broken ankles and smashed glasses, but the controller itself looks identical to the one found on the PS2. Why change something that is already installed in 200 million homes worldwide? Answer: because there are more people in those homes that don't play games, and hundreds of millions more homes to win over. Nintendo's answer to Ken Kuturagi -- Mario Bros. creator and games world legend Shigeru Miyamoto -- knew this better than most. That's why he designed a revolutionary controller that is sensitive to motion, not button-mashing. Everyone knows how to swing a golf club or a boxing glove in a Wii game. You just swing the controller.... ...The Wii may not be the most powerful console ever built, but it is the smallest and lightest. Its chip is not faster than Sony's cell, but it does use less electricity. In short, it looks more like the future. " First, the PS2 controller was widely considered the best ever. So yes, why change it? Second, for the last paragraph, they forget that the PS3 controller is motion-sensitive, as well. Also, having the wiimote makes it more revolutionary than the Blu-ray drive, Cell processor, and a motion-sensitive controller? I just don't get how this author came to those conclusions. I'm not challenging the Wii's success. Its price point is very friendly, helping win over people who don't play video games. But the PS3 is just so different from it; it wins over home theater enthusiasts. Who here bought a PS3 because it was the cheapest blu-ray player and have or will be getting at least one game for it?

04-30-2007, 09:49 PM	#16
Apollo182 Junior Member Member since:Apr 2007 Location:Wisconsin	Wii Vs. PS3 i have both a wii and a ps3. i waited out for 3 days for the ps3 just to be clear this was my console of choice, i came across a wii and bought it to play different games. as far as wii vs. ps3. my choice is the ps3 all the way. it does everything like the guy said in the article, which is great. the wii is for when my parents come over and want to play games. pops loves playing games on the wii due to the controller. then when i showed him RR7 and turned on the motion control, he liked that too, especially the hd quality. for me the wii is for quick games of tennis, warioware and VC console games. i did buy SSX Blur for the wii and this is a blast to play but its hard to play for hours on end. this is the true fault of the wii, it is impossible to play for any length of time due to THE controllers. this is the flaw of only using motion controlled controllers. Zelda to me was impossible to play with the wii, i hated it. my dog is actually afraid of the controllers due to me swinging around. with the ps3 i can play RR7 with motion and then switch over to R:Fom for a while. at the moment i dont think i have played an actual wii game in over a month. as for the ps3 its on everyday, playing a movie, Folding, games, music, and functioning as a Apple tv sort of(Movie trailers in HD on the ps3 Rock). oh and i dont own a 360 cuz there crap.

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04-30-2007, 04:23 PM	#2
sore_and_crucified Active Member Member since:Mar 2007	A rather silly write-up indeed. Makes you wonder if these people even know the subject they are writing about... I bet he still uses a PS2 and Xbox and doesn't even know what the PS3 and 360 look like.

04-30-2007, 04:42 PM	#3
stockstar1138 Banned Member since:Apr 2007	Yeah, its such as mess or buttons. They should have made it like the controller of the two preceeding winners of their respective generations.....oh wait they did. Well, they should have made it like the 360s......oh wait all thats different is they switched up the d-pad with a stick. well they should have made it innovative and motion sensing.....oh wait they did. I know that if they would have just changed that controller, this thing would be a success. Man! How could they be soooo stupid! I mean only 200 million people bought the PS1 and PS2. There are 6 billion people in the world. You know what that means 5.8 billion people in the world did not buy PS1 or PS2 because they were very, very confused about the controller and the same is with PS3. And I mean lets talk about the future here. Small and weak is the way to go. Hell, I saw this little cheapo laptop at walmart yesterday. Thing ran at 577Mhz. I was like Dude! thats the future. Its small and weak!!!!! Off topic: HOw do you get it so you can type in your BDs, PS3 games, and TV setup underneath all your comments.

04-30-2007, 05:17 PM	#5
MasterXeus Power Member Member since:Mar 2007	I think everyone needs to read the whole article before posting a comment. My girlfriend is a non-gamer and she said the same thing. There are to many buttons on the PS2/3 controller and Xbox/Xbox 360 controllers as well. The Wii controller is simpler to use compare to the PS2/3, Xbox, Xbox 360 controllers, so I can understand why he said this. I also think the “In short, it looks more like the future.” I believe this was directed towards this whole part of the article. Nintendo took a different tack. When you buy a videogame console, the company says, you want to play games. Period. A console is not a Swiss Army knife. It makes sense to squeeze more functionality into your cell phone because you carry that device around everywhere. When it comes to the interactive fun box in your living room, however, it makes sense to simply make that more fun. If you want a DVD player, you'll buy a DVD player. The Wii may not be the most powerful console ever built, but it is the smallest and lightest. Its chip is not faster than Sony's cell, but it does use less electricity. In short, it looks more like the future I tend to agree with this. I buy a videogame console to play games, everything else is an added bonus. The PS3 on the other hand, I bought because at the time it was the cheapest and best blu-ray player out there. Being able to play video games on it was the added bonus for me. If the PS3 did not play Blu-ray movies, with its current selection games I would have waited to buy the PS3 down the road when more games I’m interested in playing come out. It looks more like the future statement I believe he was saying that the future of video games console is for it to be only a game console, like the Wii. Not something that will run your entire house, although that would be cool.

04-30-2007, 06:46 PM	#7
Frode Special Member Member since:Feb 2007	Nintendo didn't go for a niche market - they went for the family and friends market. They went for the everyday joe6pack and his wife and two kids. They focused on making games fun and more interactive. PS3 and Xbox360 however focus on the hardcore gamers that want high powered graphics and games you immerse yourself in. This is actually a smaller market than the Wii's, but you have a higher volume of games per buyer. IMO Nintendo's done a stroke of genius in that they're no longer competing with Sony and Microsoft and have left them to compete with each other instead. I can easily see a gamer buying a Wii in addition to a PS3 or 360 simply due to price, but you'll have more of a division in PS3 vs 360.

04-30-2007, 07:01 PM	#8
nhaase Special Member Member since:Mar 2007 Trading Score:2	Frode, well put. I say "niche" in the fact that they're about the only product in that market now, they're specializing in the "just video games" market. Like I said, I'm not knocking the Wii in any way, but in my opinion, saying that the Wii is the future of gaming isn't really so, other than the remote. The Wii accomplishes its goals very well, but it's a tried and true method for them, they've always gone for that market in their games. Now it's just amplified since Sony and MS have gone in a very different direction. I think both directions work, but I think Sony and MS are thinking that since so many kids who grew playing video games are now getting out of college and getting jobs, they can make systems more robust for these people. I know when I saw the PS3's price I didn't even flinch, especially when I saw it's capabilities. However, for joe6pack, it's outrageous, so the competition is less direct. It's like the charger vs. the mustang right now. The charger's a 4-door car, meant for the person who needs that practicality but still wants some performance, while the mustang is staying as a 2-door model to keep the pony car market.

04-30-2007, 07:28 PM	#9
ProvenFlipper Special Member Member since:Jun 2006 Home Theater Gallery:4 4K collection:335 Blu-ray collection:901 Trading Score:1	I guess he never saw the original controller that was supposed to come with the PS3. People flipped out and they immediately went back to their bread and butter. Personally, I think the Playstation controller is the best controller for video games. It works well for all types of games. Sports, action, adventure, FPS, you name it and the PS controller handles it well. For the record, my favorite contoller was the N64 controller, but the configuration only worked well for first party games and shooters, IMO. I also think eventually the Wii will fall into the same trap as the other Nintendo systems as of late. 3rd party support will soon start to waiver and soon their will only be first party games on the system.

04-30-2007, 07:53 PM	#10
bryan915 Member Member since:Apr 2007	My roommate has a Wii and I have a PS3, so I've played both a lot. Although the Wiimotes are a cool innovation, they still have their faults. They don't always connect to the Wii and you can only connect them at specific points in the game; in Tiger Woods, the controllers are sporadic and will make you swing or take a half swing without doing anything; and they suck up batteries and can only be recharged with a $40 third-party add-on kit. In my opinion the only reason the Wii controllers got so much hype is because Nintendo advertised them better because they are the only thing that sets the Wii apart from the other two systems. My roommate just got Super Paper Mario, and although the game play kind of cool, the graphics could have been done on the 64 (the main boss is simply a triangle with a other shapes on him to give him a face) and there is no dialogue (all text). To me the Wii just has a lot of publicity surrounding it because of its price point and because of the gimmics they have been advertising with the controllers. Once you get down to it, the games are really pretty crappy. Sure there aren't that many PS3 games out and everyone seems to be complaining about that fact but if you look past the gimmicky controller of the Wii, you basically have a whole bunch of C- games that were rushed to market just to be out. The Wii games I have played seem to be put out simply to make use of and to display the capabilities of the Wiimotes. Not a single one of them has shown any depth, a decent plot, or anything that blew me away. As for the part in the article about the controllers being better for new gamers because they allow more than just button mashing, the author obviously has never seen anyone play boxing on WiiSports because all that is is flailing the controller every which way, and half the time the Wii doesn't even register your punches. On a sidenote, I was at EB Games and the salesman was telling some poor kid how the 360 is superior to the PS3. He gave him such "facts" as: the power supply is in the PS3 which causes it to overheat all the time, the 360 makes use of 1080p in all of its games whereas the PS3 does not, and there are no games really coming out for the PS3 that won't be on the 360. Having owned a 360 prior to my PS3, the salesman was an idiot. My 360 overheated and locked up about every time I played it. My PS3 on the otherhand, has been kept on for multiple days straight and still runs as quite as a mouse. OK, I'm done ranting.

04-30-2007, 07:58 PM	#11
The Don Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Apr 2006 Blu-ray reviews:12 Trading Score:2	he just wanted to make love with Nintendo for a few paragraphs and call it an article... the controller?...what a tool..

04-30-2007, 08:38 PM	#12
Blu Tiger Special Member Member since:Mar 2007 Location:Denver, CO Blu-ray collection:725 Trading Score:27	I like the PS3 controller, but I think the 360's controller is better. And the wii sucks because it's not even HD. The only game I play is Zelda, and I'd rather use a regular controller to play it rather than using the nunchuck.

04-30-2007, 08:52 PM	#14
blitz6speed Blu-ray Guru Member since:Oct 2006 Location:Anaheim Hills, CA Trading Score:8	The Wii is utter garbage. There isnt a decent GAME worth playing on the damn thing. Honestly, i really tried to give it a chance. The system has NOTHING worthwhile on it, especially since i played Zelda on the cube. Im still waiting for a reason to own the Wii.

04-30-2007, 08:58 PM	#15
Smallville206 Active Member Member since:Dec 2006 Location:Seattle, Washington	I'm guessing the writer is uninformed on the subject he is writing about. There will always be people who think everything is complicated, hence the running of the how do I program my VCR joke for so many years.

05-01-2007, 12:34 AM	#19
stockstar1138 Banned Member since:Apr 2007	I would also have to disagree that just because you buy a 360 doesn't mean you'll have overheating problems, disc scratching, the famous red light flash, etc... There’s more than on game that’s 1080p on the Xbox 360, according to the back of Xbox 360 game cases.[/QUOTE] I know, but the 360 is much more prone to hardware malfunctions than the ps3. and i can count the games on one hand that can play in 1080p on a 360. i doubt we will see that many in the future, as their trademark game, halo 3, is not going 1080p.

05-01-2007, 12:44 AM	#20
blitz6speed Blu-ray Guru Member since:Oct 2006 Location:Anaheim Hills, CA Trading Score:8	My first 360 died on me about 8 months into owning it, it was a launch unit. My 2nd one is fine so far and gets heavy use. My cousin is on his 4th 360, if it wasnt for NBA2K7 online, he wouldnt put up with this crap, but he is addicted to the game.

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