Dune (1984) - Page 24 - Blu-ray Forum

nagysaudio · 02-12-2014, 02:49 PM

The German one is hands down garbage. But I simply just can't make up my mind if I like the French, or the U.S. better. The French disc has a better encode and looks like a newer scan of the same source. But it's brighter and doesn't have more detail. This is tough. Anyone else want to chime in?

kidglov3s · 02-12-2014, 02:53 PM

Look at the caps, while I think either is basically good (but personally think the FR looks burnt out, see no evidence of it being cleaner) I can't help seeing that telltale noise/lack of detail characteristic of a dated transfer. I hope there will eventually be a new transfer that brings out more detail with less noise. I wish the same for Streets of Fire.

quickdraw · 02-12-2014, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by HD Goofnut

I guess we will have to agree to disagree on that one. Have a look while you're thinking about it: http://caps-a-holic.com/hd_vergleich...less=1#auswahl

Sometimes a brighter picture doesn't necessarily mean a "cleaner" transfer. I've never seen the film theatrically, but I don't necessarily think that Lynch intended the film to look like the French version, which is noticeably brighter. A lot of Lynch's work is filmed on the darkish side, which is clearly artistic intent. The film looks richer on the darker side, plus it makes some of the cheesiness of the sets less obvious

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HD Goofnut · 02-12-2014, 02:58 PM

The FR disc is far too bright. Areas that should be shadowed are now illuminated and it just doesn't look natural at all. Compression is also slightly better on the U.S. disc.

Impossible · 02-12-2014, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by quickdraw

Sometimes a brighter picture doesn't necessarily mean a "cleaner" transfer. I've never seen the film theatrically, but I don't necessarily think that Lynch intended the film to look like the French version, which is noticeably brighter. A lot of Lynch's work is filmed on the darkish side, which is clearly artistic intent. The film looks richer on the darker side, plus it makes some of the cheesiness of the sets less obvious

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I meant cleaner as is not as much print damage as the US version.

JimDiGriz · 02-12-2014, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by quickdraw

Sometimes a brighter picture doesn't necessarily mean a "cleaner" transfer. I've never seen the film theatrically, but I don't necessarily think that Lynch intended the film to look like the French version, which is noticeably brighter. A lot of Lynch's work is filmed on the darkish side, which is clearly artistic intent. The film looks richer on the darker side, plus it makes some of the cheesiness of the sets less obvious

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I think some of the sets still look fantastic, especially the Throne room. Chronicles of Riddick certainly borrowed from Dune

Some of the scenes in this film have yet to be bettered - not the film I hasten to add, but some scenes are just incredible. When the Emperor meets the Time Worm and Baron Harkonnens base are just fantastic!

HD Goofnut · 02-12-2014, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by JimDiGriz

I think some of the sets still look fantastic, especially the Throne room. Chronicles of Riddick certainly borrowed from Dune

Some of the scenes in this film have yet to be bettered - not the film I hasten to add, but some scenes are just incredible. When the Emperor meets the Time Worm and Baron Harkonnens base are just fantastic!

I agree they are. Time Worm lol. 3rd Stage Guild Navigator just sounds too confusing doesn't it?

BouCoupDinkyDau · 02-12-2014, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by JimDiGriz

Time Worm

ROTFL! That's awesome. I will always think of the navigator as a time worm now!!

JimDiGriz · 02-13-2014, 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by HD Goofnut

I agree they are. Time Worm lol. 3rd Stage Guild Navigator just sounds too confusing doesn't it?

Ill be honest - I couldnt be bothered to check when I wrote that. Bet youre shocked by that right?

But really - that scene - I mean if you like dark sci-fi that scene has got it all and Ive never seen anything like it. If anyone was planning a Warhammer 40K film they need to take a good look at that scene and copy the hell out of it!

Spaceman_Spiff · 02-18-2014, 01:17 AM

All Hail The Time Worm!! That is great. Now that'll be stuck in my brain for a long time.

rdodolak · 02-18-2014, 01:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Blades1370

Yes hopefully, I am still trying to find someone that actually owns Children of Dune, I know the French version of that one was 1080i, and from the few reviews on Amazon.fr, it wasn't a great looking transfer. The German version was released about a year ago, but so far no one has reviewed it, or really commented on the PQ of the disc.

I will gladly import both if the transfers are decent, the chances of this getting a US release are slim to none at this point. Now watch after posting this it gets announced 6-9 months from now and I wind up sucking on my size 13 shoes, LOL.

What are you looking for?

JimDiGriz · 02-18-2014, 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Spaceman_Spiff

All Hail The Time Worm!! That is great. Now that'll be stuck in my brain for a long time.

I want to take full credit for this Time Worm thing OK?

The Fallen Deity · 03-31-2014, 10:16 PM

Just imported the U.S. BD myself personally.

I nearly bought the U.K. BD before releasing that it's the horrible German transfer.

I think that the French BD looks too bright and pumped up, the contrast and colour saturation have definitely been boosted on that disc.

The U.S. BD looks the best out of the bunch imo.

HD Goofnut · 03-31-2014, 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by The Fallen Deity

Just imported the U.S. BD myself personally.

I nearly bought the U.K. BD before releasing that it's the horrible German transfer.

I think that the French BD looks too bright and pumped up, the contrast and colour saturation have definitely been boosted on that disc.

The U.S. BD looks the best out of the bunch imo.

The U.S. BD is the best for PQ and AQ. Crank up Toto in lossless and it's pure bliss.

JimDiGriz · 04-01-2014, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by HD Goofnut

The U.S. BD is the best for PQ and AQ. Crank up Toto in lossless and it's pure bliss.

Yup. Better still, find a UK slipcover and put that round the US case!

HD Goofnut · 04-01-2014, 01:51 PM

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Yup. Better still, find a UK slipcover and put that round the US case!

Wouldn't the slip be too large for the case?

JimDiGriz · 04-01-2014, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by HD Goofnut

Wouldn't the slip be too large for the case?

Not really. A little loose maybe but no problem.

Hang on - Ill just try it. Yep, a little loose perhaps but works fine for me. Its a good idea hiding that horrible amaray case!

HD Goofnut · 04-01-2014, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by JimDiGriz

Not really. A little loose maybe but no problem.

Hang on - Ill just try it. Yep, a little loose perhaps but works fine for me. Its a good idea hiding that horrible amaray case!

Got an extra slipcover laying around?

JimDiGriz · 04-02-2014, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by HD Goofnut

Got an extra slipcover laying around?

No! I bought the UK Dune and the US Dune at the same time to compare them a while back. I returned the UK Dune (5 minutes comparing the two was easily enough to convince me!) and must have forgotten to include the slipcover...

HD Goofnut · 04-02-2014, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by JimDiGriz

No! I bought the UK Dune and the US Dune at the same time to compare them a while back. I returned the UK Dune (5 minutes comparing the two was easily enough to convince me!) and must have forgotten to include the slipcover...

02-12-2014, 02:53 PM	#462
kidglov3s Banned Top contributor Member since:Aug 2013 4K collection:14 Blu-ray collection:2124	Look at the caps, while I think either is basically good (but personally think the FR looks burnt out, see no evidence of it being cleaner) I can't help seeing that telltale noise/lack of detail characteristic of a dated transfer. I hope there will eventually be a new transfer that brings out more detail with less noise. I wish the same for Streets of Fire. Last edited by kidglov3s; 02-12-2014 at 03:00 PM.

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02-12-2014, 02:49 PM	#461
nagysaudio Banned Top contributor Member since:Aug 2011 Blu-ray collection:274 Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:8	The German one is hands down garbage. But I simply just can't make up my mind if I like the French, or the U.S. better. The French disc has a better encode and looks like a newer scan of the same source. But it's brighter and doesn't have more detail. This is tough. Anyone else want to chime in?

02-12-2014, 02:58 PM	#464
HD Goofnut Blu-ray King Top contributor Member since:May 2010 Location:Far, Far Away Home Theater Gallery:114 4K collection:743 Blu-ray collection:2373 DVD collection:128 MA collection:751 Digital collection:1091 Prime collection:598 Blu-ray reviews:133 Trading Score:39	The FR disc is far too bright. Areas that should be shadowed are now illuminated and it just doesn't look natural at all. Compression is also slightly better on the U.S. disc.

02-18-2014, 01:17 AM	#470
Spaceman_Spiff New Member Member since:Apr 2011 Blu-ray collection:250 DVD collection:357	All Hail The Time Worm!! That is great. Now that'll be stuck in my brain for a long time.

03-31-2014, 10:16 PM	#473
The Fallen Deity Blu-ray Knight Top contributor Member since:Jul 2011 Location:Scotland 4K collection:348 Blu-ray collection:1226 DVD collection:112	Just imported the U.S. BD myself personally. I nearly bought the U.K. BD before releasing that it's the horrible German transfer. I think that the French BD looks too bright and pumped up, the contrast and colour saturation have definitely been boosted on that disc. The U.S. BD looks the best out of the bunch imo.

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