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Old 06-28-2008, 08:58 AM   #61
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I find it funny that so many people are attacking the guy for making a statement. He said he got warned for trolling? Well let me ask you, did the guy that said "your crap box can't play blu rays". That was totally uncalled for, and all he said was "No, but my PS3 can".

All I see here are bunch of fanboys, that post under the impression that they know what they are talking about.

It's funny, he says XBL is more robust (which it is by the way) and someone brings up 32 and 64 player dedicated servers blah blah blah. Not all of the games on 360 are 1) 8-16 player games. and 2) there is one game that comes to mind on 360 with dedicated servers and that didn't make that game magically fun.

It's not just his opinion, it's fact when he says there's more content on XBL. Because there is. Flat out.

Sure there's a fee associated with XBL, one that I'd like to see reduced but I'd don't mind paying it as long as I keep getting the level of service and the quality that XBL has provided.

I'm seeing someone post about how CoD4 plays better on PSN... have we forgotten all the mass complaining about not being able to play that game online, or have really laggy games on the PS3 side? We must have.

I like whenever there's a debate about 360 and PS3 the first thing that comes up is RROD. People don't mention two things, PS3s can and often will die, even on the us.playstation.com forums people are whining about PS3s dying. They also don't mention the PS2 and what a piece of crap that was. How Sony offered free repairs of people getting DREs and then later changed that policy because a lot of people found out about it. Don't tell me it didn't happen because I did customer support for Sony and during the training we were told flat out if anyone ask why it isn't free tell them "our policy has changed"

We won't get into the broken PSPs, or the PS2s that were sent from the repair center broken.

I also seen someone say "being interrupted in Warhawk to go play GT5 isn't on my top 10 of must haves."

Really because you're not wanting in game xmb for these reasons? Also if you don't want to recieve friend invitations there's a few things you can do (if you have a 360), you could appear offline, disable notifications or simply tell your friends you don't want to be bothered.

I dunno guys, there's a lot of fanboism going on here. I don't understand why someone was attacked for stating his opinion, and even get warned for it, when there's plenty Xbox bashing, and trolling going on. Give me a break.
 
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I find it funny that so many people are attacking the guy for making a statement. He said he got warned for trolling? Well let me ask you, did the guy that said "your crap box can't play blu rays". That was totally uncalled for, and all he said was "No, but my PS3 can".

All I see here are bunch of fanboys, that post under the impression that they know what they are talking about.
Then why bother to stir this up, this whole thing was starting to subside I thought.

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I like whenever there's a debate about 360 and PS3 the first thing that comes up is RROD. People don't mention two things, PS3s can and often will die, even on the us.playstation.com forums people are whining about PS3s dying. They also don't mention the PS2 and what a piece of crap that was. How Sony offered free repairs of people getting DREs and then later changed that policy because a lot of people found out about it. Don't tell me it didn't happen because I did customer support for Sony and during the training we were told flat out if anyone ask why it isn't free tell them "our policy has changed"

We won't get into the broken PSPs, or the PS2s that were sent from the repair center broken.
Yeah, but Sony didn't make it a priority to ignore the problem and pretend it wasn't there which is what Microsoft was doing when the RROD issue starting becoming a big deal on the 360's. Only after enough people made a big stink of it did Microsoft finally make it official. Yes, breakdowns do happen on the PS3's as well, but NOWHERE near the numbers that the RROD'ed 360's produced.

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I dunno guys, there's a lot of fanboism going on here. I don't understand why someone was attacked for stating his opinion, and even get warned for it, when there's plenty Xbox bashing, and trolling going on. Give me a break.
It was HOW his opinion was stated that it became an issue.
 
Old 06-28-2008, 12:30 PM   #63
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They also don't mention the PS2 and what a piece of crap that was.
The first thing that the 360 fanatics bring up when you dare to mention the Red Ring of Death is the much less prolific PS2 issues, which have been inflated by Xbox 360 fanatics to match the RRoD in what amounts to flat out lies, as the PS2 issue was also never remotely as big as the RRoD has been.

Funny how if you do a google search on PS2 disc read error, the only hits you get are from people defending the 360.
 
Old 06-28-2008, 12:54 PM   #64
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The first thing that the 360 fanatics bring up when you dare to mention the Red Ring of Death is the much less prolific PS2 issues, which have been inflated by Xbox 360 fanatics to match the RRoD in what amounts to flat out lies, as the PS2 issue was also never remotely as big as the RRoD has been.

Funny how if you do a google search on PS2 disc read error, the only hits you get are from people defending the 360.
Reguardless sir, it was just a point I brought up, it wasn't defending Xbox 360 or anything, it was a point and a valid one. Drop the 360 part for a second and read when I said I did customer support for a living. I've had first hand experience dealing with angry customers about failing PS2s and people that had them repaired sometimes 5 or 6 times.

But that's not the meat of my discussion.

But I wont stir the pot on the issue.
 
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Reguardless sir, it was just a point I brought up, it wasn't defending Xbox 360 or anything, it was a point and a valid one. Drop the 360 part for a second and read when I said I did customer support for a living. I've had first hand experience dealing with angry customers about failing PS2s and people that had them repaired sometimes 5 or 6 times.

But that's not the meat of my discussion.

But I wont stir the pot on the issue.
I worked customer service returns myself years ago, and frankly, how many people do you HONESTLY believe come in with a honestly valid product defect? I know a majority of the PS2's coming back were mostly due to customer abuse and modchip attempts that failed. I've had my original launch day PS2 and it worked fine until about 3 years later into its life at which time the optical drive went bad, as I was a heavy game player. CD-ROM/DVD drives having constantly moving part means there's a built-in failure rate, its bound to happen. The difference between the PS2/PS3 failure rates and the 360's is that Microsoft did some shoddy engineering on the motherboard/chipset and then were blatant enough to tell everyone that there was no identifiable problem with the 360 until it became overwhelmingly obvious that there WAS a defect. The fact that Microsoft extended the warranties on the 360's to 3 years just backs it up to cover their butts.

But on a lighter note, welcome to the forums sir
 
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Funny how if you do a google search on PS2 disc read error, the only hits you get are from people defending the 360.
I did a google search for Playstation 2 Lawsuit and came across this

http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news03/playstation.html

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Consumers have been complaining for more than a year that Sony's Playstation 2 video game machine stops reading DVDs and certain types of games, often when the unit is just a few months old. Now, a class-action lawsuit has been filed against Sony, alleging the company deceived thousands of consumers by marketing PlayStation 2 as a DVD player and a video-game unit.
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Despite numerous consumer complaints, the company claims it's an insolated problem
Sounds like the same line Microsoft used for there Xbox 360 RROD problem.
 
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On the subject of PS3 sales: People are constantly saying that the 360 is owning the PS3 in sales. I don't quite understand that. Of course the 360 has sold more because it had a one year lead over the PS3, not because it's better. The PS3 is selling more rapidly than the 360, similar to the way Blu-ray is outpacing DVD's sales in the first three years.
 
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Q: Many say the PS3 has a better software lineup than the Xbox 360 with titles such as Resistance 2, Killzone 2, LittleBigPlanet, Final Fantasy XIII, Gran Turismo 5, Motorstorm 2, InFamous and has also stolen one of the 360s best exclusives in Bioshock.

A: Well, they aren't the only ones stealing exclusives we are getting Unreal Tournament 3 in July and I am also pleased to announce that the formerly PS3 exclusive Haze will be coming to the Xbox 360 with exclusive content just for the Xbox 360. Along with that, the Xbox 360 has the best exclusives in Halo Wars, Gears of War 2, Alan Wake, and Banjo Kazooie.[/QUOTE]

Moms caming running in the room, when I fell off my chair laughing at this. Xbox 360 has the best exclusives in Halo Wars, Gears of War 2, Alan Wake, and Banjo Kazooie. THIS IS A JOKE RIGHT?

Better exclusives, REALLY? OK MGS4, SIREN, SOCOM CONFRONTATION, LITTLE BIG PLANET, MOTORSTORM PACIFIC RIFT, BIOSHOCK IS COMING TO PS3, RESISTANCE 2, TEKKEN 6, FINAL FANTASY 13, AFRIKA, thats just this year, he forgot his other big titles they are raving about, unfortunately xbox makes too many rpg's, and still haven't beaten Final Fantasy series, that I've played, they have Fable 2, and Too human coming. Also a good one besides Gears of War 2, is Splinter Cell Conviction, but with those also, can't even touch PS3 exclusives starting now and into the future, and 09 don't look good for xbox neither.

09 PS3 Zipper Socom, God Of War 3, Eyedentify, Killzone 2, GT5 Full Game, Infamous, Crysis is in the works by rumors, etc, nuff said and a few we don't know yet.

So what does xbox do, the same thing they did against ps2, take off running, trying to get another console out in 2010-2011. Heres the problem and excuses you will hear, five years is right for another console, that is true if everything was still standard definition. SO Um NO 5 years isn't right for HD console, their arent enough HDTV's in peoples houses yet, and many hold back buying a HD console, when they don't have a HD tv, reason why the wii is doing so good, some people feel with a 360 or PS3, a HD is required, which they should have by now. So why put out another HD console, HD hasnt taken off into enough peoples houses yet, your going to come out with another console so fast, this is hd world now, not standard tv, they should try to make better games instead of running and pumping out another console already(7-10 years can suit you until HD is fully into peoples houses). This will be their excuse, since they have to stay much further ahead of Sony to even have a chance, look PS3 hasn't even been out 2 years, and already beating them. But anyway if dude thinks he has better exclusives he's smoking crack, but then again, what is he suppose to say, he has to back his product, he's not going to say Sony has the better line-up.

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I find it funny that so many people are attacking the guy for making a statement. He said he got warned for trolling? Well let me ask you, did the guy that said "your crap box can't play blu rays". That was totally uncalled for, and all he said was "No, but my PS3 can".

All I see here are bunch of fanboys, that post under the impression that they know what they are talking about.

It's funny, he says XBL is more robust (which it is by the way) and someone brings up 32 and 64 player dedicated servers blah blah blah. Not all of the games on 360 are 1) 8-16 player games. and 2) there is one game that comes to mind on 360 with dedicated servers and that didn't make that game magically fun.
Look up the definition of robustness. The dedicated server architecture allows a wider variation of circumstances under which something operates. Thats a fact. The PSN supports both P2P and dedicated modes. Thats a fact. The ability to withstand stress is a feature of dedicated servers. Plain and simple. It's not dealing with someone playing on the local system. Maybe if people understood the english language the wouldn't repeat the same thing believing it changes the facts. That's all I said .. but like a true fanboy you want to imply I said something else. I never said it automatically bestowed fun. It does offer more gameplay options. Fact. Your not interested in the facts. Just more fanboy trolling.
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It's not just his opinion, it's fact when he says there's more content on XBL. Because there is. Flat out.
I never said there wasn't more content. But just to prove your a fanboy .. where is your tack on line .. that more content doesn't magically make better quality and more fun content. Oh it's missing.

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Sure there's a fee associated with XBL, one that I'd like to see reduced but I'd don't mind paying it as long as I keep getting the level of service and the quality that XBL has provided.
Nobody is saying you don't have the right to pay. Knock yourself out. It's your choice. Just don't come here telling me that paying $300/year for my family every year is some kind of deal about how XBL blows PSN out of the water for gameplay servers that don't offer me the same options.

It's funny how everyone that posts here about XBL mysteriously have no brothers, sisters or dads to be payed for if they want their own on-line identity. And they want to keep coming onto PS3 threads to tell everyone how XBL with it's less robust servers is worth paying for .. but PSN with it's more robust game servers isn't.

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I'm seeing someone post about how CoD4 plays better on PSN... have we forgotten all the mass complaining about not being able to play that game online, or have really laggy games on the PS3 side? We must have.
I never bought COD so I have no idea one way or the other. Multiplatform and 3rd party servers definitely seem to have more issues. Ironically they don't seem to offer the scalability of others that don't have these issues.
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I like whenever there's a debate about 360 and PS3 the first thing that comes up is RROD. People don't mention two things, PS3s can and often will die, even on the us.playstation.com forums people are whining about PS3s dying. They also don't mention the PS2 and what a piece of crap that was. How Sony offered free repairs of people getting DREs and then later changed that policy because a lot of people found out about it. Don't tell me it didn't happen because I did customer support for Sony and during the training we were told flat out if anyone ask why it isn't free tell them "our policy has changed"
So since the PS2 was so bad it means they actually improved the process for the PS3. Instead of applauding that as a CONSUMER .. your here bashing them for it. What about MS? Please give us your thoughts on how my relatively reliable Xbox turned into the RROD fiasco .. all the while MS was spreading FUD about how the PS3 was going to be unreliable with the new tech. At the same time they were denying they had serious reliablity problems others were reporting. Tell me how that's good news for CONSUMERS.

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I also seen someone say "being interrupted in Warhawk to go play GT5 isn't on my top 10 of must haves."
It's not and it won't be for me. I'm sure it's very important for many and I can see how it would be. It's always one of the first things given why XBL is superior to PSN while people downplay the blast that is 32 player games. Seems kind of odd don't you think .. one is an annoyance and one is a missed gaming xp/option. For a gaming console seems a bit odd.
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Give me a break.
Same here.. maybe if Xbox fanboys would stop coming into PS3 and Blu-ray forums to tell us how the PS3 sucks and the 360 is the greatest thing since sliced bread there wouldn't be an issue. Especially since the 360 in no way benefits the adoption of Blu-ray.
 
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Q: Many say the PS3 has a better software lineup than the Xbox 360 with titles such as Resistance 2, Killzone 2, LittleBigPlanet, Final Fantasy XIII, Gran Turismo 5, Motorstorm 2, InFamous and has also stolen one of the 360s best exclusives in Bioshock.

A: Well, they aren't the only ones stealing exclusives we are getting Unreal Tournament 3 in July and I am also pleased to announce that the formerly PS3 exclusive Haze will be coming to the Xbox 360 with exclusive content just for the Xbox 360. Along with that, the Xbox 360 has the best exclusives in Halo Wars, Gears of War 2, Alan Wake, and Banjo Kazooie.

Moms caming running in the room, when I fell off my chair laughing at this. Xbox 360 has the best exclusives in Halo Wars, Gears of War 2, Alan Wake, and Banjo Kazooie. THIS IS A JOKE RIGHT?

Better exclusives, REALLY? OK MGS4, SIREN, SOCOM CONFRONTATION, LITTLE BIG PLANET, MOTORSTORM PACIFIC RIFT, BIOSHOCK IS COMING TO PS3, RESISTANCE 2, TEKKEN 6, FINAL FANTASY 13, AFRIKA, thats just this year, he forgot his other big titles they are raving about, unfortunately xbox makes too many rpg's, and still haven't beaten Final Fantasy series, that I've played, they have Fable 2, and Too human coming. Also a good one besides Gears of War 2, is Splinter Cell Conviction, but with those also, can't even touch PS3 exclusives starting now and into the future, and 09 don't look good for xbox neither.

09 PS3 Zipper Socom, God Of War 3, Eyedentify, Killzone 2, GT5 Full Game, Infamous, Crysis is in the works by rumors, etc, nuff said and a few we don't know yet.

So what does xbox do, the same thing they did against ps2, take off running, trying to get another console out in 2010-2011. Heres the problem and excuses you will hear, five years is right for another console, that is true if everything was still standard definition. SO Um NO 5 years isn't right for HD console, their arent enough HDTV's in peoples houses yet, and many hold back buying a HD console, when they don't have a HD tv, reason why the wii is doing so good, some people feel with a 360 or PS3, a HD is required, which they should have by now. So why put out another HD console, HD hasnt taken off into enough peoples houses yet, your going to come out with another console so fast, this is hd world now, not standard tv, they should try to make better games instead of running and pumping out another console already(7-10 years can suit you until HD is fully into peoples houses). This will be their excuse, since they have to stay much further ahead of Sony to even have a chance, look PS3 hasn't even been out 2 years, and already beating them. But anyway if dude thinks he has better exclusives he's smoking crack, but then again, what is he suppose to say, he has to back his product, he's not going to say Sony has the better line-up.
Stating which system has better games is only an opinion, there’s no right or wrong answer to this one. Someone may like the Xbox 360 line up over the PS3, someone else will like the PS3 line up over Xbox 360, others will like some of the line up on both systems.

I also don’t really think the Wii is selling so well because it’s not HD. It’s still a hard to find item, so for some it’s a must have just because of that. Also the Wii was made for a casual gamer in mind so it suppose to appeal to more people. The downside is the Wii doesn’t have a lot of powerful software sells. Casual gamers are only going to buy 5 (if that) games through the life cycle of system. My friend only has 3 games for the Wii since he bought it. That was almost 2 years ago and one of the games came with it.
 
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Same here.. maybe if Xbox fanboys would stop coming into PS3 and Blu-ray forums to tell us how the PS3 sucks and the 360 is the greatest thing since sliced bread there wouldn't be an issue. Especially since the 360 in no way benefits the adoption of Blu-ray.
It would be nice if both sides would stop saying crap about the other side.
 
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Stating which system has better games is only an opinion, there’s no right or wrong answer to this one. Someone may like the Xbox 360 line up over the PS3, someone else will like the PS3 line up over Xbox 360, others will like some of the line up on both systems.

I also don’t really think the Wii is selling so well because it’s not HD. It’s still a hard to find item, so for some it’s a must have just because of that. Also the Wii was made for a casual gamer in mind so it suppose to appeal to more people. The downside is the Wii doesn’t have a lot of powerful software sells. Casual gamers are only going to buy 5 (if that) games through the life cycle of system. My friend only has 3 games for the Wii since he bought it. That was almost 2 years ago and one of the games came with it.
REALLY? He said Xbox 360 has the best exclusives in Halo Wars, Gears of War 2, Alan Wake, and Banjo Kazooie, he also was excited Haze wouldn't be an exclusive for Sony, big deal, Haze was never a big deal too many people, now Bioshock, game of the year was. So now Bioshock is coming to PS3, Ill take given Haze away for a better Bioshock anyday. So he lost right their.

He mentions Gears Of War 2, thats nice, but Resistance 2 hits around the same time, not to mention we will have Socom, so Socom and Resistance 2, verse Gears 2, thats another loss for him.

If he thinks Alan Wake and Banjo is powerful, I have a ton of 3rd parties I will be playing before I even think about touching them two, along with countless Sony exclusives.

Example 3rd parties Madden, Mercenaries 2, Brothers In Arms, Midnight Club, Force Unleashed, Pure, HAWX, End War, Farcry 2, Project Origin, Fallout 3, Aliens, Dead Space, Mirrors Edge, Tomb Radier Underworld, Wet, etc, like I said, his exclusives that he uses as bragging, is pathetic, as I won't even get a chance to play them since their is so many titles that will destroy ALan Wake and Banjo. If he knew anything he would have at least added Splinter Cell Conviction.

So you can assume that is an opinion, simple thing is, if games are better, their better, so better get more games out on Gears of Wars level, otherwise forget about it. Saying xbox had better games then ps2 is just stupid, vice versa when the 360 and ps3 is done putting out their exclusives and ptting out their next console, ps3 will have more sales, and better games, just like ps2 over xbox, back to the drawing board.

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REALLY? He said Xbox 360 has the best exclusives in Halo Wars, Gears of War 2, Alan Wake, and Banjo Kazooie, he also was excited Haze wouldn't be an exclusive for Sony, big deal, Haze was never a big deal too many people, now Bioshock, game of the year was. So now Bioshock is coming to PS3, Ill take given Haze away for a better Bioshock anyday. So he lost right their.

He mentions Gears Of War 2, thats nice, but Resistance 2 hits around the same time, not to mention we will have Socom, so Socom and Resistance 2, verse Gears 2, thats another loss for him.

If he thinks Alan Wake and Banjo is powerful, I have a ton of 3rd parties I will be playing before I even think about touching them two, along with countless Sony exclusives.

Example 3rd parties Madden, Mercenaries 2, Brothers In Arms, Midnight Club, Force Unleashed, Pure, HAWX, End War, Farcry 2, Project Origin, Fallout 3, Aliens, Dead Space, Mirrors Edge, Tomb Radier Underworld, Wet, etc, like I said, his exclusives that he uses as bragging, is pathetic, as I won't even get a chance to play them since their is so many titles that will destroy ALan Wake and Banjo. If he knew anything he would have at least added Splinter Cell Conviction.

So you can assume that is an opinion, simple thing is, if games are better, their better, so better get more games out on Gears of Wars level, otherwise forget about it.
I really have no idea who you're talking about, but if he works for Xbox. Why are you upset? Of course he’s going to say the company he works for has the best exclusive, do you really think he would say anything else?

Also you stated your own opinion by saying you’ll play tons of 3rd party games before touching Alan Wake and Banjo. Doesn’t mean other won’t like them. Personally I’m with you, I rather play some other games than Alan Wake and Banjo.

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I really have no idea who you're talking about, but if he works for Xbox. Why are you upset? Of course he’s going to say the company he works for has the best exclusive, do you really think he would say thing else?
no but he has way better exclusives coming then those 2 garbage games he named.
 
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It would be nice if both sides would stop saying crap about the other side here.
I agree. Unfortunately some want to obscure certain facts and keep pushing their propaganda in this forum. I think out of the several thousand posts here I may have started a handful of threads. And the vast majority of those posts have been in response to falsehoods and or the one-sided partial information being spread...on a subject that has nothing to do with Blu-ray.
 
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I really have no idea who you're talking about, but if he works for Xbox. Why are you upset? Of course he’s going to say the company he works for has the best exclusive, do you really think he would say anything else?

Also you stated your own opinion by saying you’ll play tons of 3rd party games before touching Alan Wake and Banjo. Doesn’t mean other won’t like them. Personally I’m with you, I rather play some other games than Alan Wake and Banjo.
I didn't say others won't like them, Im saying he has way bigger exclusives, he uses those 2 garbage games compared to way better things to put up against the ps3 exclusives. I'm not saying their not going to be ok games, but their are maybe a few that are going to jump out of their chairs cheering, hip hop hurray, I'm glad I got my 360 for Alan Wake and Banjo over ps3's exclusives, otherwise I would have been screwed and couldn't play. Heres a guy trying to steer people to a 360 over a Ps3 and uses that crap, I wonder how much he really knows his console. Nobody said I was uupset about, I was entertained on how stupid of a saleman he is using those 2 games, not to mention using Alan Wake which more then likely won't even make this year.

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I find it funny that so many people are attacking the guy for making a statement. He said he got warned for trolling? Well let me ask you, did the guy that said "your crap box can't play blu rays". That was totally uncalled for, and all he said was "No, but my PS3 can".

All I see here are bunch of fanboys, that post under the impression that they know what they are talking about.

It's funny, he says XBL is more robust (which it is by the way) and someone brings up 32 and 64 player dedicated servers blah blah blah. Not all of the games on 360 are 1) 8-16 player games. and 2) there is one game that comes to mind on 360 with dedicated servers and that didn't make that game magically fun.

It's not just his opinion, it's fact when he says there's more content on XBL. Because there is. Flat out.

Sure there's a fee associated with XBL, one that I'd like to see reduced but I'd don't mind paying it as long as I keep getting the level of service and the quality that XBL has provided.

I'm seeing someone post about how CoD4 plays better on PSN... have we forgotten all the mass complaining about not being able to play that game online, or have really laggy games on the PS3 side? We must have.

I like whenever there's a debate about 360 and PS3 the first thing that comes up is RROD. People don't mention two things, PS3s can and often will die, even on the us.playstation.com forums people are whining about PS3s dying. They also don't mention the PS2 and what a piece of crap that was. How Sony offered free repairs of people getting DREs and then later changed that policy because a lot of people found out about it. Don't tell me it didn't happen because I did customer support for Sony and during the training we were told flat out if anyone ask why it isn't free tell them "our policy has changed"

We won't get into the broken PSPs, or the PS2s that were sent from the repair center broken.

I also seen someone say "being interrupted in Warhawk to go play GT5 isn't on my top 10 of must haves."

Really because you're not wanting in game xmb for these reasons? Also if you don't want to recieve friend invitations there's a few things you can do (if you have a 360), you could appear offline, disable notifications or simply tell your friends you don't want to be bothered.

I dunno guys, there's a lot of fanboism going on here. I don't understand why someone was attacked for stating his opinion, and even get warned for it, when there's plenty Xbox bashing, and trolling going on. Give me a break.
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Look up the definition of robustness. The dedicated server architecture allows a wider variation of circumstances under which something operates. Thats a fact. The PSN supports both P2P and dedicated modes. Thats a fact. The ability to withstand stress is a feature of dedicated servers. Plain and simple. It's not dealing with someone playing on the local system. Maybe if people understood the english language the wouldn't repeat the same thing believing it changes the facts. That's all I said .. but like a true fanboy you want to imply I said something else. I never said it automatically bestowed fun. It does offer more gameplay options. Fact. Your not interested in the facts. Just more fanboy trolling.
I never said there wasn't more content. But just to prove your a fanboy .. where is your tack on line .. that more content doesn't magically make better quality and more fun content. Oh it's missing.

Nobody is saying you don't have the right to pay. Knock yourself out. It's your choice. Just don't come here telling me that paying $300/year for my family every year is some kind of deal about how XBL blows PSN out of the water for gameplay servers that don't offer me the same options.

It's funny how everyone that posts here about XBL mysteriously have no brothers, sisters or dads to be payed for if they want their own on-line identity. And they want to keep coming onto PS3 threads to tell everyone how XBL with it's less robust servers is worth paying for .. but PSN with it's more robust game servers isn't.

I never bought COD so I have no idea one way or the other. Multiplatform and 3rd party servers definitely seem to have more issues. Ironically they don't seem to offer the scalability of others that don't have these issues.
So since the PS2 was so bad it means they actually improved the process for the PS3. Instead of applauding that as a CONSUMER .. your here bashing them for it. What about MS? Please give us your thoughts on how my relatively reliable Xbox turned into the RROD fiasco .. all the while MS was spreading FUD about how the PS3 was going to be unreliable with the new tech. At the same time they were denying they had serious reliablity problems others were reporting. Tell me how that's good news for CONSUMERS.

It's not and it won't be for me. I'm sure it's very important for many and I can see how it would be. It's always one of the first things given why XBL is superior to PSN while people downplay the blast that is 32 player games. Seems kind of odd don't you think .. one is an annoyance and one is a missed gaming xp/option. For a gaming console seems a bit odd.
Same here.. maybe if Xbox fanboys would stop coming into PS3 and Blu-ray forums to tell us how the PS3 sucks and the 360 is the greatest thing since sliced bread there wouldn't be an issue. Especially since the 360 in no way benefits the adoption of Blu-ray.

Because there aren't games on 360 that have dedicated servers? I said I could name one, I can actually name two. So far, on the PS3 I've only encountered 2 games with dedicated servers. One of them likes to drop me in random games with 8 players total. The other one at least I can pick from a list of servers.

Lets figure out what exactly you're trying to say though, are you saying despite having more content that XBL is less of an online experience because a couple games on PS3 have dedicated servers and a few more that are coming out does too? I don't quite understand what you're getting at. Overall the online experience on the 360 is simply better. Period.

Maybe I'd enjoy it more if people communicated, if they said anything more than "can you hear me" or "turn off your mic". Oh jeez.. As far as the no "dad, brothers or sisters comment" I'm a grown man, so my dad, brother or sister don't live with me. My girlfriend does, but she doesn't have much of an interest in online gaming.

As far as failure rates go. My biggest gripe about the way sony handled it was the fact that they lied about it, and still lie about it. They offered no extended warranty for those people. They just told them their console was out of warranty and that they'd have to pay a "service fee".

Since when did I become a fanboy? I own, play and buy games for both consoles.
 
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As far as failure rates go. My biggest gripe about the way sony handled it was the fact that they lied about it, and still lie about it. They offered no extended warranty for those people. They just told them their console was out of warranty and that they'd have to pay a "service fee".
You could swap Sony out for Microsoft and vice versa. They're both guilty of that. If you don't buy an extended warranty beyond the one offered with the product you buy, then at what point does the company have to be responsible? You accuse Sony of lying about it, yet you seem to make like Microsoft is absolutely washed clean of this practice. So what gives?
 
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I also don’t really think the Wii is selling so well because it’s not HD. It’s still a hard to find item, so for some it’s a must have just because of that. Also the Wii was made for a casual gamer in mind so it suppose to appeal to more people. The downside is the Wii doesn’t have a lot of powerful software sells. Casual gamers are only going to buy 5 (if that) games through the life cycle of system. My friend only has 3 games for the Wii since he bought it. That was almost 2 years ago and one of the games came with it.
I would agree. The Wii has been a great seller simply because of its price point and increased interest due to lack of readily available consoles for sale. I've had my Nintendo Wii since launch day and the system only has 4 games for it versus the 15-18 games I have for the PS3. A lot of the oh-wow novelty factor that goes with the system, like my recently purchased Wii Fit, goes out the door within two weeks on average. With Nintendo pushing the majority of the big-name games that most casual gamers will identify with and the aforementioned price point, they've got the market over Sony and Microsoft at this point but at some point that tide could change with the non-Wii third party titles that will come out.
 
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