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Hellraiserfan · 01-21-2016, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by The Fallen Deity

My personal ranking of the five Spider-man films to date is from best to worst:

1. Spider-Man 2
2. Spider-Man
3. The Amazing Spider-Man
4. The Amazing Spider-Man 2
5. Spider-Man 3

That's the exact order I place them as well.

The Fallen Deity · 01-21-2016, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Hellraiserfan

That's the exact order I place them as well.

Darth Marcus · 01-21-2016, 06:58 PM

Only a slight variation of the ranking for me:

Spider-Man 2
Spider-Man
The Amazing Spider-Man
Spider-Man 3
The Amazing Spider-Man 2

I consider The Amazing Spider-Man 2 to be Batman & Robin level of bad, and I hope and pray to God that I never have to see that film ever again.

Dreamliner330 · 01-21-2016, 07:07 PM

I still like the trumpet theme song Hans Zimmer did for TASM 2.

TASM 2 was much better than its given credit for. Giamatti's overacting aside, it was pretty great, actually. The opening was fantastic. The Electro battles were cool too. I wish they kept going, a little bit of recon and TASM 3 would have been great.

Dalekbuster523Bluray · 01-21-2016, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by The Fallen Deity

If the new Spider-Man film series ends up doing well and is popular with fans I can honestly see the Andrew Garfield series become the black sheep of the Spider-Man family 25-30 years from now.
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It will do well. There's no question about that because this has Disney AND Marvel attached to it, plus it's an official part of the MCU.

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Originally Posted by Packerfan75

Sony making this deal with Marvel to allow Spiderman in their upcoming films seems like a really smart deal. If he has a good showing, even if it's a short one, it'll really help pique interest in their next reboot. .

I can't imagine there will be another reboot after this. I can see the 2017 Spider-Man turning into the long-running franchise Sony want, as a result of being a part of the MCU.

The Dragon · 01-21-2016, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by StingingVelvet

It's super ridiculous and turns me right off, but the studios seem to think this is the path to success now-a-days. Same thing with Batman being rebooted yet again a few years after Dark Knight Rises. I think it's so silly, but whatever.

I really wish they had just retroactively added the Maguire films to the MCU and either had him as a veteran or had him retire and train Miles Morales.

And why couldn't they have included Bale's Batman in what they're now doing? He could have become a master detective coming out of "retirement " after whatever happens to Robin...

This could have gone over with a bit of work. Man of Steel was in production prior to Dark Knight Rises; those films could've been connected...

tigertron · 01-21-2016, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Moviefan2k4

I liked both of Webb's films, and I agree about Raimi's first two being great. Unfortunately, his third effort was just overpacked like crazy, thanks in no small part to Avi Arad and the Sony execs. That movie would've been so much better, if Harry and the Sandman had been the main antagonists like Raimi wanted.

3 should have set up the whole Venom thing at the end with the symbiote.

tiger_qc · 01-21-2016, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by JamesBenjamin

That list is a little misleading. I'm assuming you're starting with the 1930s/40s batman shorts and ending with Burton's batman? Same with Superman 40s to 70s?? Also the hulk "movie" from 1977 was a backdoor pilot for the TV show that wasn't released to theaters (in the US).

You don't mention how quickly Batman was rebooted from '97 to '05, and you also apparently don't count the Batman movie from the 60s which WAS released in theaters.

Let me more specific

Batman: (I was wrong, not 62 years, it's 49 but the series was pretty similar to the first movie)

Original:
Batman: The Movie (1966)

1st Reboot:
Batman (1989)
Batman Returns (1992)
Batman Forever (1995)
Batman & Robin (1997)

2nd Reboot:
Batman Begins (2005)
The Dark Knight (2008)
The Dark Knight Rises (2012)

Superman:

Original:
Superman (1978)
Superman II (1980)
Superman III (1983)
Supergirl (1984)
Superman IV: The Quest for Peace (1987)

1st Reboot:
Superman Returns (2006)

2nd Reboot:
Man of Steel (2013)
Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice (2016)

Hulk: You're right I counted the series (1978-82) which is clearly not a series of movies.

Moviefan2k4 · 01-21-2016, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by tigertron

3 should have set up the whole Venom thing at the end with the symbiote.

Agreed; I'd have preferred Eddie to have a very small role in the story, probably about the staff job and Gwen's affections. After the credits roll, we see his transformation at the church.

Rodney-2187 · 01-21-2016, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by tiger_qc

Superman:

Original:
Superman (1978)
Superman II (1980)
Superman III (1983)
Supergirl (1984)
Superman IV: The Quest for Peace (1987)

1st Reboot:
Superman Returns (2006)

2nd Reboot:
Man of Steel (2013)
Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice (2016)

I don't think Superman Returns is a reboot.

tiger_qc · 01-21-2016, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by rodneyfaile

I don't think Superman Returns is a reboot.

I'm pretty sure it's one, a huge fail.

StingingVelvet · 01-21-2016, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by tiger_qc

I'm pretty sure it's one, a huge fail.

It was a sequel to Superman 2, basically. I don't think it really factored continuity in too much, but in every way that matters it was a sequel to the Donner films.

I kind of hope the Batman in BvS could be considered a sequel to Dark Knight Rises. I know officially he's not, but if they don't contradict those movies then it could work, maybe? Who knows.

I hate reboots.

dvdmike · 01-21-2016, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by StingingVelvet

It was a sequel to Superman 2, basically. I don't think it really factored continuity in too much, but in every way that matters it was a sequel to the Donner films.

I kind of hope the Batman in BvS could be considered a sequel to Dark Knight Rises. I know officially he's not, but if they don't contradict those movies then it could work, maybe? Who knows.

I hate reboots.

The Nolan verse is thankfully dead and buried

Dalekbuster523Bluray · 01-21-2016, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by dvdmike

The Nolan verse is thankfully dead and buried

'Thankfully'?

Those films were widely praised by critics and audiences alike.

dvdmike · 01-21-2016, 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Dalekbuster523Bluray

'Thankfully'?

Those films were widely praised by critics and audiences alike.

Opinions how do they work?

Foggy · 01-21-2016, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by dvdmike

Opinions how do they work?

Nope you're wrong, The Dark Knight trilogy are aces!

Darth Marcus · 01-21-2016, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Dalekbuster523Bluray

'Thankfully'?

Those films were widely praised by critics and audiences alike.

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Originally Posted by Foggy

Nope you're wrong, The Dark Knight trilogy are aces!

Everyone, shhh! You'll wake the "I like The Dark Knight, but it's not a Batman movie" crowd!

Moviefan2k4 · 01-21-2016, 09:51 PM

Of the Nolan trilogy, "The Dark Knight" is the one which focused on Batman the least, in terms of its story. So in that regard, its not a "Batman movie". That said, I enjoyed it on my first viewing, and still do; Ledger gave that role his all, and everyone else stepped up their game, too. My only gripe is that Katie Holmes refused to come back; I generally hate recasting.

JamesBenjamin · 01-21-2016, 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by tiger_qc

Let me more specific

Batman: (I was wrong, not 62 years, it's 49 but the series was pretty similar to the first movie)

Original:
Batman: The Movie (1966)

1st Reboot:
Batman (1989)
Batman Returns (1992)
Batman Forever (1995)
Batman & Robin (1997)

2nd Reboot:
Batman Begins (2005)
The Dark Knight (2008)
The Dark Knight Rises (2012)

Superman:

Original:
Superman (1978)
Superman II (1980)
Superman III (1983)
Supergirl (1984)
Superman IV: The Quest for Peace (1987)

1st Reboot:
Superman Returns (2006)

2nd Reboot:
Man of Steel (2013)
Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice (2016)

Hulk: You're right I counted the series (1978-82) which is clearly not a series of movies.

1966 to 1989 is only 23 years.

I get it though, Spiderman has been rebooted more recently than others, but its a rights issue. Now its with Marvel and won't be rebooted anymore.

Dalekbuster523Bluray · 01-21-2016, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Moviefan2k4

Of the Nolan trilogy, "The Dark Knight" is the one which focused on Batman the least, in terms of its story. So in that regard, its not a "Batman movie". That said, I enjoyed it on my first viewing, and still do; Ledger gave that role his all, and everyone else stepped up their game, too. My only gripe is that Katie Holmes refused to come back; I generally hate recasting.

You can't call a Batman movie about Batman VS the Joker 'not a Batman movie'.

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01-21-2016, 06:58 PM	#2403
Darth Marcus Blu-ray Baron Top contributor Member since:May 2011 Location:Chapel Hill, NC 4K collection:1493 Blu-ray collection:1749 DVD collection:1 Blu-ray reviews: 1 Trading Score:76	Only a slight variation of the ranking for me: Spider-Man 2 Spider-Man The Amazing Spider-Man Spider-Man 3 The Amazing Spider-Man 2 I consider The Amazing Spider-Man 2 to be Batman & Robin level of bad, and I hope and pray to God that I never have to see that film ever again. Last edited by Darth Marcus; 01-21-2016 at 07:18 PM.

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Dreamliner330 Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Jan 2012 Home Theater Gallery:1 4K collection:501 Blu-ray collection:1111 DVD collection:1 Trading Score:416	I still like the trumpet theme song Hans Zimmer did for TASM 2. TASM 2 was much better than its given credit for. Giamatti's overacting aside, it was pretty great, actually. The opening was fantastic. The Electro battles were cool too. I wish they kept going, a little bit of recon and TASM 3 would have been great.

01-21-2016, 09:51 PM	#2418
Moviefan2k4 Banned Member since:Mar 2010 Location:Montgomery, TX 4K collection:44 Blu-ray collection:317 Blu-ray reviews:5 Trading Score:2	Of the Nolan trilogy, "The Dark Knight" is the one which focused on Batman the least, in terms of its story. So in that regard, its not a "Batman movie". That said, I enjoyed it on my first viewing, and still do; Ledger gave that role his all, and everyone else stepped up their game, too. My only gripe is that Katie Holmes refused to come back; I generally hate recasting.

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