Sony BDP-S500 Specifications ?

[dvda-sacd]

Originally Posted by Merrick

I don't think that article necessarily guarantees that the ES line must include SA-CD support,

Neither do I.

[Woody]

Typically when Sony releases a gen 1 ES video product, they come up with a completely new model number that is unrelated to current ones.

example: DVPS9000ES was the gen 1 SACD/DVD player in the ES line.
(as you see they also tie the "ES" into the model number also)

DVPS7000ES was their first DVD player....etc

So if you know for a fact that is the model number, I doubt it will be an ES piece.

[dvda-sacd]

Originally Posted by Woody

I doubt it will be an ES piece.

Me too.

[blackpixels]

Originally Posted by dvda-sacd

http://www.highfidelityreview.com/ne...umber=19009834

I think a Sony ES Series player must play SACD. I'm not buying a reference disc player which doesn't support SACD playback.

Cheers!

As an SACD enthusiast myself, I think it would be great if they were to offer such a player, but with SACD media being dead in B&M retailers and the only place to really buy discs are online it seems to me that it's wouldn't be a huge priority for Sony going foward IMO...could be a very long wait. Besides with all the HD audio formats getting the kinks worked out I believe that the vast majority of consumers will take to them much faster as they it offers both great PQ and great sound on one disc.

[jorg]

Originally Posted by Merrick

Doesn't that mean that Germans HAVE TO BUY Blu-ray?

wow that was relay stero-typical and so true lmao (im german)
u could look at that as a reason or i like to think that the people of my heritage just arnt all stupid enouf to buy hd dvd lol

[The Seventh Taylor]

Originally Posted by blackpixels

As an SACD enthusiast myself, I think it would be great if they were to offer such a player, but with SACD media being dead in B&M retailers and the only place to really buy discs are online it seems to me that it's wouldn't be a huge priority for Sony going foward IMO...could be a very long wait.

Well, Sony being faithful to SACD hasn't shown off in their 'home AV component' range of BD players yet but it's admirable that they've pushed to let PlayStation3 not only have high-resolution graphics and high-definition video through BD but also high-resolution audio through SACD.

Clearly the engineers behind the console must attribute great importance to picture and sound quality because they've released a number of firmware upgrades that enhance video and audio reproduction, notably different options for SACD decoding and CD upsampling (besides upscaling of SD video to HD etc.)

Have a look at the dedicated SACD FAQ for PS3 at http://www.ps3sacd.com/faq.html

[CAB]

There new receiver line has dropped i.Link. Does Sony have a DVD/SACD player that supports output of 24/192 SACD over HDMI? If not, it seems like the good bet that sony will include SACD support. I'm hoping they put CD in also. All my CDs are lossless encoded (thanks apple!) and on a NAS feeding my AppleTV.

-CB

[sakbarzad]

Originally Posted by BTBuck1

I am also going to take a guess at an initial price of $699, with a price drop in november of it to $599 and the bdp-s300 to $399, ps3 to $499. I doubt we will se the ES moniker for a couple of years.

es unit already in work its coming out some time in 08

[CAB]

Originally Posted by sakbarzad

es unit already in work its coming out some time in 08

Links!!! I'm trying to plan my next purchase and it's looking like the Denon BD transport only model.

-CB

[jcdDigix]

Originally Posted by CAB

Links!!! I'm trying to plan my next purchase and it's looking like the Denon BD transport only model.

-CB

SonyStyle.com

http://www.sonystyle.com/webapp/wcs/...tegoryId=27925

[CAB]

Originally Posted by jcdDigix

SonyStyle.com

http://www.sonystyle.com/webapp/wcs/...tegoryId=27925

OK, I've been teased. I was looking for links on a Sony ES BD player that would output SACD over 24bit/192Hz over HDMI.

-CB

[jcdDigix]

Thought you were talking 'bout ES Receivers. My bad.

[The Seventh Taylor]

So as it turns out, the BDP-S500 is not an ES series model and does not support SACD. See the IFA 2007 coverage everywhere.

BTW, wasn't the BDP-S300 introduced ages ago (at CES 2007)? I guess that was for North America, while Europe had to make do with the BDP-SE1.

Now (bearing in mind that apparently North America gets these toys a few months ahead of the Old World) let's see what Sony has up its sleeve at CEDIA (and CEATEC).

[blackpixels]

Originally Posted by The Seventh Taylor

Well, Sony being faithful to SACD hasn't shown off in their 'home AV component' range of BD players yet but it's admirable that they've pushed to let PlayStation3 not only have high-resolution graphics and high-definition video through BD but also high-resolution audio through SACD.

Clearly the engineers behind the console must attribute great importance to picture and sound quality because they've released a number of firmware upgrades that enhance video and audio reproduction, notably different options for SACD decoding and CD upsampling (besides upscaling of SD video to HD etc.)

Have a look at the dedicated SACD FAQ for PS3 at http://www.ps3sacd.com/faq.html

I agree with you...this I wrote prior to owning the PS3...

[celle]

http://www.cinemotion.biz/archivos/upload/bdps500.pdf

No DTS-HD and DTS-HD MA bit stream out via HDMI. Only core?

BDP-S500 Features from the IFA Sony Blu-ray catalog

- BD-ROM Single Layer (25GB)/Double Layer (50GB) Playback
- CD/MP3 (DVD-R/RW, DVD+R/RW)/ JPEG (DVD-R/RW, DVD+R/RW)
- DVD Video/DVD-R/RW, DVD+R/RW/DVD-R Double Layer
- AVCHD (8cm/12cm) Playback
- BRAVIA Theatre Sync
- 1080p Full High Definition picture quality (only through HDMI)
- 7.1ch LPCM/Dolby Digital Plus/ Dolby TrueHD/ DTS-HD (HA)
- 24p True Cinema
- x.v.Colour
- 1080p upscale of DVD
- HDMI/Component/Composite
- DTS-HD/TruehD/DD+ bit stream out via HDMI
- Motorized Slide Panel
- Dimensions in mm (w/h/d) 4300mm/99mm/361mm)
- Weight 4,8 kg

[celle]

The new Samsung (not the combo) and the Pioneer LX70a can do DTS-HD MA and DTS-HD as bit stream. I saw it at the IFA (Samsung was hooked with a Z11 and the LX70A with an Onkyo 875 - displays of both units showed "DTS HD Master")!

Why can´t do it the Sony?

[celle]

accept multichannel PCM at sampling rates BELOW 192kHz!

...like the Onkyo, Denon, Yamaha... That´s ordinary!
The maximum of DTS-HD MA and TrueHD in 7.1/5.1 is at the moment 24Bit/96Khz!! I think you don´t hear a difference between 24/96 and 24/192...
The 24bit resolution is more important.

The S500 is a profile 1.0 player and the BD-P2400 according Samsung too...

[The Seventh Taylor]

Originally Posted by dvda-sacd

I think a Sony ES Series player must play SACD. I'm not buying a reference disc player which doesn't support SACD playback.

Well, here we have the Sony BDP-S2000ES. Frankly to me it doesn't look like an ES component at all but like just a redressed BDP-S500.



http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/av/do...0906/sony2.htm

There's supposed to be an article here too but apparently that got removed. Not sure why. CEDIA has already started.

http://news.sel.sony.com/en/press_ro...ase/31276.html

Still: no Super Audio CD playback!

Sony's new 500-disc BD/DVD/CD changer or home server (HES-V1000) doesn't support SACD either. It looks like Sony Computer Entertainment may be more dedicated to SACD than Sony's Home AV division...

[lokus]

I really don't see what the problem is the the CE companies. No one is going to adopt Blu-ray with prices this high and no support for these additional features. Just my honest opinion...

[The Seventh Taylor]

And here we have Sony at their annual Dealer Convention announcing their new range of BD Recorders (BDZ-X90, BDZ-L70, BDZ-T70, BDZ-T50), apparently sharing something with the build of their latest BD Players.

Hardly surprising, no mention of SACD. Heck, I don't even spot SVCD or VCD here.

http://www.sony.jp/CorporateCruise/P...00709/07-0912/
http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/av/do...0912/sony1.htm