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Old 07-17-2009, 10:47 AM   #21
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oooooooo glad to see you know so much about me.

maybe my brightness is up too high, but i have it set to what i think looks best. it gets IR always, no matter what. if a logo goes up for a couple seconds then a black screen, you see outline of the logo still there.
That is totally normal. If you watch something and then go to a blank screen, there will always be some kind of IR. That's just the way it goes. You can't see it when you're just watching the television, so don't worry.
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Old 07-17-2009, 03:25 PM   #22
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The Man, would you kindly list what your display mode and settings are?

Despite what you "think" looks good, there is a possibility you are overdoing it. Contrast and Brightness are one of the biggest factors to IR. If you have them set too high, this will cause excessive IR. In which case you can only blame yourself.
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Old 07-17-2009, 11:05 PM   #23
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The Man, would you kindly list what your display mode and settings are?

Despite what you "think" looks good, there is a possibility you are overdoing it. Contrast and Brightness are one of the biggest factors to IR. If you have them set too high, this will cause excessive IR. In which case you can only blame yourself.
ok.. its on custom

picture- +60
brightness- +30
Color- +68
tint- -4
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color temp - warm
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Old 07-18-2009, 02:04 AM   #24
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ok.. its on custom

picture- +60
brightness- +30
Color- +68
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sharpness- +55
color temp - warm
If it's only visible in a completely black or no signal screen, don't worry about it.

I use..

Picture at 65 and brightness at 52. I game every day for at least a couple hours. Haven't noticed any IR in anything but a no signal screen. And it fades away after a few minutes of regular tv viewing. * In my case viewing regular hd programming from channels like Discovery HD or HD Theater works better at clearing IR then the white scroll bar*.

Can you describe how bad your IR problem is? Is it visible while watching a program? How long does it last? You shouldn't be having any major problems with the settings you posted, make sure the anti image retention pixel orbiter is on.

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Old 07-18-2009, 03:01 AM   #25
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ok.. its on custom

picture- +60
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color temp - warm
Those settings don't look too bad.

Hmmm....

Also, I would set Pixel Orbiter to 1 min.
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Old 07-19-2009, 03:30 AM   #26
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That is totally normal. If you watch something and then go to a blank screen, there will always be some kind of IR. That's just the way it goes. You can't see it when you're just watching the television, so don't worry.
I think a lot of people would be surprised to learn that the human eye itself usually suffers from worse IR than any modern display... especially if you've been drinking.
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Old 07-22-2009, 02:36 PM   #27
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NEVER a hint on my Pioneer.
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Old 07-22-2009, 11:39 PM   #28
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I bought my Hitach 50' plasma display back in December and I only had one instance of IR happening, but it disappeared very quick. I also make sure when there are black bars that I expand the screen fully. Add to that I watch shows that usually display their logos for the entire duration of the show, and I still do not see any hint of IR present, even after long periods of being displayed. Gotta say I am very pleased with my Hitachi.

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Old 07-23-2009, 01:12 AM   #29
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I left my pixel orbiter on the one minute setting, what is the advantage to only letting it do it 2-3-4 mins?
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I left my pixel orbiter on the one minute setting, what is the advantage to only letting it do it 2-3-4 mins?
I generally keep mine on 2 minutes all the time and when watching letterboxed films, I put it on 1 minute.

I think it just depends on what you're watching. For general TV usage, 2 or 3 should be fine, but for something like games or letterboxed DVD/BD's where you know there's going to be something stationary, put it on 1. At least that's what I do. Either way, you'll get IR, but the orbiter will alleviate how long it takes to get rid of the IR.
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Old 07-26-2009, 07:44 AM   #31
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LouHamilton wrote that you have not checked how many hours on your set. Is there an 'hour meter' in the menus somewhere?
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Old 07-26-2009, 09:25 PM   #32
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Well I just noticed some IR on my Panny today... I spent about 3 hours watching Food.TV last night (Hell's Kitchen reruns) and today, I could see the "food" logo in the bottom right corner... faint but there. I ran the white bar a few times and still there. I bouth this screen in Nov. 2008.

Besides the white bar, is there anything else we can do to improve this ? in all honesty, this pisses me off a little. Being that I also heard that the new Panny's don't have this issue... i guess this prooves that wrong!
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Old 07-27-2009, 02:22 AM   #33
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Well I just noticed some IR on my Panny today... I spent about 3 hours watching Food.TV last night (Hell's Kitchen reruns) and today, I could see the "food" logo in the bottom right corner... faint but there. I ran the white bar a few times and still there. I bouth this screen in Nov. 2008.



Besides the white bar, is there anything else we can do to improve this ? in all honesty, this pisses me off a little. Being that I also heard that the new Panny's don't have this issue... i guess this prooves that wrong!
Been mentioned before, just watch regular full screen content. I never use the white scroll bar since in my case I've found watching something fullscreen washes it out much quicker*.


*Your results may vary*.

I have a new panny and haven't noticed any IR on anything but a black/no signal screen and it was very faint. After watching regular full screen content for a couple minutes i can go back and there is no trace of it. Again I've never seen even a hint of IR in anything but a no signal/black screen and it was very very faint.

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Old 07-27-2009, 05:11 AM   #34
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Been mentioned before, just watch regular full screen content. I never use the white scroll bar since in my case I've found watching something fullscreen washes it out much quicker*.


*Your results may vary*.

I have a new panny and haven't noticed any IR on anything but a black/no signal screen and it was very faint. After watching regular full screen content for a couple minutes i can go back and there is no trace of it. Again I've never seen even a hint of IR in anything but a no signal/black screen and it was very very faint.
yeah I tried that... on a dark back I hardly see it. Once theres a white background I can see the faint logo still there. Tonight I watched regular tv, bd, white bar again and still apears. We should have some coarse of action againts these stations and there fix logo's. Now i'm paranoid of watching a few stations because of this.

BTW, I was checking out your HT gallery and was wondering how you got those green and white screens going on ?

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Old 07-27-2009, 06:24 AM   #35
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LouHamilton wrote that you have not checked how many hours on your set. Is there an 'hour meter' in the menus somewhere?
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To check your hours on your G10, do the following (NOTE: THIS TASK REQUIRES YOU GO INTO THE SERVICE MENU. DO NOT CHANGE ANY SETTINGS OR YOU MAY PERMANENTLY SCREW UP YOUR TV!!):

* Hold down the {VOL -} button ON THE PLASMA.
* Press the {INFO} button on the remote control 3 times.
* The Service Menu will be displayed with the following menus:
o ADJUST
o WD-ADJUST
o OPTION
o AGING (Red Screen)
o RM-SET
o SRV-TOOL
The {1} & {2} buttons move through menus (up/down).
* Press the {2} button once or press the {1} button six times to select "SRV-TOOL".
* Then press the {OK} button to access it.
* Using the cursor keys, * highlight * the empty right side of the last option: PTCT :00.00.00.00.00
* Then press and hold the {MUTE} button for 3 seconds.
* Time and Count will be displayed in red color.
TIME = Hours and minutes of operation.
COUNT = Times the Plasma was powered on.
* To exit, press and hold the {POWER} button on the Plasma for few seconds.

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Old 07-27-2009, 06:26 PM   #36
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yeah I tried that... on a dark back I hardly see it. Once theres a white background I can see the faint logo still there. Tonight I watched regular tv, bd, white bar again and still apears. We should have some coarse of action againts these stations and there fix logo's. Now i'm paranoid of watching a few stations because of this.

BTW, I was checking out your HT gallery and was wondering how you got those green and white screens going on ?
It is from one of the break-in image files posted on avsforums i only ran them for about 80hrs, most people run them during the first couple hundred hours to condition the new set.

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We should have some coarse of action againts these stations and there fix logo's. Now i'm paranoid of watching a few stations because of this.[/B]
I agree. At least a transparent or very faint logo like the discovery channel and other channels isn't that bad. But some have a bright white or other color logo, it's anoying even if i didn't have a plasma i still dislike colorful and bright logos.

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Old 08-01-2009, 03:06 AM   #37
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This whole issue is so funny because it always seems so different for different people. Yesterday my 16-year-old nephew had 13 friends over and they played Madden NCAA football on on xbox connected to my Panasonic TH-65PZ850U for over four and half hours and there is not one trace of IR of burn-in. glad this great display seems to have passed the test but who knows about the future.
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This whole issue is so funny because it always seems so different for different people. Yesterday my 16-year-old nephew had 13 friends over and they played Madden NCAA football on on xbox connected to my Panasonic TH-65PZ850U for over four and half hours and there is not one trace of IR of burn-in. glad this great display seems to have passed the test but who knows about the future.
I know what you mean.... I had a guitarhero party/bbq 2 weeks ago. 4 to 5 hours straight of playing between all 4 GH games and nothing!! I watch maybe 2 hours of food network (with their freaking fix logo) and I get screwed! Go figure.
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