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Old 08-30-2007, 03:38 AM   #21
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We're talking about HDMI cables, not Cat 5e cables.
lol same argument... just cant discount that one
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Old 08-30-2007, 03:43 AM   #22
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i use accell hdmi cables. from my receiver to my tv ive got a 50 foot run and i see no sparkle and have great sound. pretty cheap too, worth a look.
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Old 08-30-2007, 03:45 AM   #23
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yeah im not saying they arent good or even on par Im just saying from owning a few hdmi/dvi cables that I bought via ebay for 6$-9$ and then switching to monster for my audio and video I noticed alot of improvement, and I for one am happy I switched.
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Old 08-30-2007, 03:48 AM   #24
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yeah im not saying they arent good or even on par Im just saying from owning a few hdmi/dvi cables that I bought via ebay for 6$-9$ and then switching to monster for my audio and video I noticed alot of improvement, and I for one am happy I switched.
Chances are you bought knock-off HDMI cables. Certified HDMI cables feature the HDMI logo, the knock-off cables don't.
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Old 08-30-2007, 03:49 AM   #25
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lol same argument... just cant discount that one
It's still not HDMI.
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Old 08-30-2007, 03:49 AM   #26
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yeah im not saying they arent good or even on par Im just saying from owning a few hdmi/dvi cables that I bought via ebay for 6$-9$ and then switching to monster for my audio and video I noticed alot of improvement, and I for one am happy I switched.
Have you compared Monster to inexpensive cables purchased from somewhere else besides Ebay? And do you know what it is about those Monster cables that create a better image and sound?
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Old 08-30-2007, 03:57 AM   #27
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actually no I dont go out and buy 100's of cables and sit and go nah not as good ... but from owning 4 HDMI cables from ebay and then buying the U2 V600 cables I noticed vast vast improvement where it would flicker b4 it didnt and audio was much improved. and when hooking up my 3007WFP-HC dell monitor the cheap dvi cables were so bad it wouldnt even boost my monitor to its normal 2560x1600.
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Old 08-30-2007, 04:02 AM   #28
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actually no I dont go out and buy 100's of cables and sit and go nah not as good ... but from owning 4 HDMI cables from ebay and then buying the U2 V600 cables I noticed vast vast improvement where it would flicker b4 it didnt and audio was much improved. and when hooking up my 3007WFP-HC dell monitor the cheap dvi cables were so bad it wouldnt even boost my monitor to its normal 2560x1600.
But you do realize that HDMI cables are not supposed to cause flickering? It is apparent you got a bad cable. Besides you got them on Ebay - would it mean much if I said Monster was a great cable because it worked better than some homemade cable I bought at a flea market?
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Old 08-30-2007, 04:02 AM   #29
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It's astonishing that Monster can sell cables for $90 that are no better than cables other companies sell for $10. Simply amazing ...
this guy speaks the truth

monster cables are a waste
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Old 08-30-2007, 04:04 AM   #30
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meh stoped my problem + it wasnt 90 it was 80.62 for me via the wonderful ebay! ... stopped my problem so im happy
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Old 08-30-2007, 04:11 AM   #31
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From an electrical engineering standpoint, Monster cables are technologically more advanced. You can run numerous tests on Monster cables and generic cables and the Monster cables will more than likely outperform a generic cable. Now these are tests based on the physical medium and how well it transfers the electrical current down the wire and at the same time maintaining it's integrity. So from this standpoint these cables are higher quality.

Now the real question is that are they worth it based on what you can see or hear, not caring about how the damn thing actually works. Right now it's probably hit and miss. But as the standards progress and more and more data gets put on the wire, and more technological advances in the video and audio segments, then the higher quality cables might be worth it.

One thing interesting to note is that since no player can bitstream a compressed lossless codec it will be interesting how the different cables perform in sending this over the wire, since there is no way to test the two, and only 1.3 compliant cables can transfer the bitstream correctly without loss.
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Old 08-30-2007, 04:15 AM   #32
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www.bluejeanscable.com

The only site you need.
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Old 08-30-2007, 04:16 AM   #33
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Old 08-30-2007, 04:17 AM   #34
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The only time I ever bought Monster cables was when I first started working at Best Buy around 8 years ago and I used my employee discount of course to purchase. Well, I saved over 70 percent off from retail their price. That was a pretty good deal I think, but talk about a gigantic markup. Geez!!!!

Anyway, nowadays I wouldn't even look at one of them. I don't care what anyone says about them being more technologically advanced than other brands. I just don't believe it. I've never seen the difference, even after numerous comparisons.
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Old 08-30-2007, 04:21 AM   #35
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I like them. I like bose Speakers. I've been using them for a long time.
If you look inside the latest BD movies case you will find some Monster Cables inlet ads. Maybe they are siding with Blu-ray.

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Old 08-30-2007, 04:42 AM   #36
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same with cat5e cables bought a 50 ft one from ebay for 6$ then I spent way more on a quality cat5e cable and got about 7 more of my 30mbps download that I was missing... explain that ? same kind of wire just Higher quality
I've been running network cables for about 10 years now. The terminology you use does not fit the technology. Your internet connection is 30mbps, not the internal network connection (which is 100mbps). Internet connection speeds are never guaranteed unless you pay through the nose for dedicated bandwidth (like with a T1). Problems in cat5e cables are almost exclusively endplug problems, which are replaceable if they are loose, not wired properly, or not clamped down tight enough. I've run generic network cables over 100ft without any problems. Expensive "higher quality" cables are a rip-off.

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I've been running network cables for about 10 years now. The terminology you use does not fit the technology. Your internet connection is 30mbps, not the internal network connection (which is 100mbps). Internet connection speeds are never guaranteed unless you pay through the nose for dedicated bandwidth (like with a T1). Problems in cat5e cables are almost exclusively endplug problems, which are replaceable if they are loose, not wired properly, or not clamped down tight enough. I've run generic network cables over 100ft without any problems. Expensive "higher quality" cables are a rip-off.
Correct, almost all network cables use the exact same gauge copper wire and the RJ-45 connectors are all standardized, so there should be no difference in different Cat5, Cat5e or Cat6 cables. This is based on the same comparison of like cable, like STP and UTP against each other, and not UTP vs STP.
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But I thought Monster was the only cable that can send a 1080p signal.
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With HDMI, anyone can produce an HDMI cable but quality HDMI cables come from companies that have been certified to produce them, I cannot remember who the entity is that does the certification but could find out. A digital signal is a digital signal no matter what cable you send it through. So the $6 Monoprice HDMI is no different than the $150 Monster HDMI. The only real difference, and what I believe you pay for, is Monsters warranty. Now with analog cables, that is where you will see, and hear, your difference between the superior Monster and any other brand. So buy your cheaper HDMI cables, as long as the company is reputable, but when it comes to analog cables go Monster all the way.
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