Gas Prices?

[Blu-Light]

Originally Posted by MotionBlurr

I remember reading a company got in trouble with the federal government for taking pennies and melting them to make copper products. A penny is worth more than 1cent now.

Pennies are made mostly of Zinc now days.

[PeterTHX]

Originally Posted by Blu-Light

We have two now.

Blame China or whomever but you're dancing around the fact you're part of the problem.

Why do you need one, much less two?

[PrinceLH]

Originally Posted by MasterXeus

I know this is way off topic,

I bought gas on Saturday and on Sunday it went up $0.12

Does anyone knows why Gas prices in the US have went up about $0.25 in the last week?

Higher gas prices mean less money for Blu-rays.

Could be the devaluation of the U.S. currency, worldwide.

[PrinceLH]

Originally Posted by PeterTHX

Blame China or whomever but you're dancing around the fact you're part of the problem.

Why do you need one, much less two?

Maybe we should be looking at the urban SUV drivers, who don't need such a vehicle in the city. Maybe governments need to impose a special tax on these vehicles, if they're not being used for business purposes. I get sick of people saying, "I drive one for protection, because of all of the unsafe drivers. Who is going to protect me from them? The SUV has contributed more to the over use of fuel, than any other vehicle being sold today.

[Blu-Light]

Originally Posted by PeterTHX

Blame China or whomever but you're dancing around the fact you're part of the problem.

Why do you need one, much less two?

I use my Trooper for off road and my business which requires me to have a larger vehicle. I live in a rural area. The second one is my wife's we just got it this past summer. My kids are getting bigger and it was time to get something for her to drive my crumb crunchers and their friends around.

I am not part of the problem please see my previous message as to what is the problem. There is enough oil to last us another 1000 years if not more but the Chicoms are sucking the oil up faster than it can be pumped out of the ground.

[PeterTHX]

I drive one for protection, because of all of the unsafe drivers. Who is going to protect me from them?

Especially when a lot of the fatal accidents I've seen in the news lately have been destroyed SUVs.

My kids are getting bigger and it was time to get something for her to drive my crumb crunchers and their friends around.

Minivan. Otherwise SUVs have no more seating room than a midsized sedan.

[DrinkMore]

Originally Posted by PeterTHX

People wonder why gas prices are so high...

Take a look around you as you're driving down the road. See all those GMC Yukons (31 gallon tank), Chevy Tahoes, Ford Expeditions with one or 2 people, all those pickups (Toyota Tundra, Ford F250, etc) with some 20-something punk wearing a baseball cap...how often do you see them actually hauling anything?

They are the ones raising your prices.

I am tired of hearing this crap. It has NOTHING to do with this and is a load of bull sh*t. You have been brain washed!

We have 1 choice for fuel for our vehicles. Gas. NO OTHER CHOICES! You seriously thing SUV's, Trucks and the like have ANY impact on how high our prices go? Perhaps SOMEONE needs a clue on economics and the fact that our government is a piss poor machine at best.

Besides the fact that us AMERICANS have NO OTHER CHOICES in what FUEL TO USE - why should people like you criticize other people for driving larger vehicles that use more gas? Why should YOU chastise them for having a vehicle that has no alternative fuel methods? Perhaps your attention should be turned to all the luxury vehicles on the road that burn far more fuel.. BMW, Mercedes, Porsche - etc etc.. racing vehicles that burn up fuel. There are so many things OTHER THAN that SUV wasting gas that it's insane.

If you want to blame someone - blame yourself. Blame the car manufacturers for NOT changing their ways. Blame them for NOT giving us an alternative. Blame the Government for their piss poor handling in this area. Blame BIG OIL for getting even more greedy. Blame whomever you want.

The fact of the matter is - pointing your finger a joe blow suv driver is wrong. He has no choice in the matter. Could he drive a smaller vehicle? Sure. Would that save gas? Yeah. Is it his choice? Yup. Does it drive up gas prices? Nope. Is there another choice? Nope.

So please, spread your ignorance else where. Perhaps you drive a HYBRID - don't get me started on those POS cars. Another bandaid made to look like a fix. A joke at best. Do you recycle? How much water do you waste? Are you fixed?



The real answer to this problem? Enough BS of pointing the finger and placing the blame on everyone else but yourself. Do something about it. Make something happen. Remember, were the consumers. Or has everyone in America lost their ball sack?

I'm done

[DrinkMore]

Originally Posted by PrinceLH

Maybe we should be looking at the urban SUV drivers, who don't need such a vehicle in the city. Maybe governments need to impose a special tax on these vehicles, if they're not being used for business purposes. I get sick of people saying, "I drive one for protection, because of all of the unsafe drivers. Who is going to protect me from them? The SUV has contributed more to the over use of fuel, than any other vehicle being sold today.

Assinine. Why would you even make a comment like that? You wonder why we have stupid laws now and the fact that people sue people over the dumbest sh*t. Is it your money that bought that car? Does it hurt you? Who are you to say they don't NEED that car?

It's all the vehicles in the world as a whole. It's the poor fuel economy in this country that's part of the problem. It's not the cars people choose. They have no choice. Where do you stick a family of 5 or 6? In a prius? An accord? No thanks.

Everyone needs to get off the SUV kick. Go change a light bulb or something. Recycle. Do you recycle? Do you use solar energy? Do you car pool?

Ugh!

No, I don't own one.

[BTBuck1]

Originally Posted by DrinkMore

Assinine. Why would you even make a comment like that?

you should watch how you talk to people here. Alot of people are getting tired of your insulting replies.

It's all the vehicles in the world as a whole. It's the poor fuel economy in this country that's part of the problem. It's not the cars people choose. They have no choice. Where do you stick a family of 5 or 6? In a prius? An accord? No thanks.

How about a Van? Or hey, how about not having 5 or 6 kids!!! Do Van's not get better gas milage than the Expedition on 26's or lifted with the knoby tires, that will never see anything but the same pavement a van would? An have just as much if not more seating, and storage room. And alot of them look damn nice now a days.

Everyone needs to get off the SUV kick.

I would if most people that bought them had legit reason to own them, and not for the reason of some 110 pound soccer mom feeling safer all high up in the driver's seat of a suburban.

Go change a light bulb or something.

been there, done that.

Recycle. Do you recycle?

do that too.

Do you use solar energy?

lets not get carried away

Do you car pool?

I work 5 miles from home...no need. I think more people should work closer to home. gosh why would you wanna work 20+ miles away anyways.

Ugh!

No, I don't own one.

It would be refreshing to see a post from you that:

1) didn't have you trying to slam someone
2) had something of susbtance
3) something actually BD related
4) wasn't another sad attempt at attention.
5) wasn't argumentative.

Drink, you should go have a drink...you are a very angry man.

[buckshot]

I think people have big ass lifted trucks with huge exhaust pipes (that lowers backpessure within the exhaust system thus lowering low end torque and gas mileage)

the reason car companies don't change is because selfish ignorant and stupid people don't care or don't know the affect they have and keep buying the h2s and other monstrocities.

personally I bought the car I drive off a few things. here they are in order.

fuel economy/safety (equal value)
aesthetics
price

my electricity bill floats around $40 a month average and I recycle at home as well as help design new ways to reuse materials at work. and i'm considered (uneducated) because I have no college degree. imagine what people considered ''smart'' could do.

personally I think every suv should be hollowed out to make homeless shelters.

and if you have a ''my penis is so small I need a lifted F-350 to show how cool I am'' truck, expect a window full of pennies if you ride my ass.

p.s. - drinkmore, calm down man. I have roadrage, but internetforumrage is slightly less tolerable.

[DrinkMore]

Originally Posted by buckshot

I think people have big ass lifted trucks with huge exhaust pipes (that lowers backpessure within the exhaust system thus lowering low end torque and gas mileage)

the reason car companies don't change is because selfish ignorant and stupid people don't care or don't know the affect they have and keep buying the h2s and other monstrocities.

personally I bought the car I drive off a few things. here they are in order.

fuel economy/safety (equal value)
aesthetics
price

my electricity bill floats around $40 a month average and I recycle at home as well as help design new ways to reuse materials at work. and i'm considered (uneducated) because I have no college degree. imagine what people considered ''smart'' could do.

personally I think every suv should be hollowed out to make homeless shelters.

and if you have a ''my penis is so small I need a lifted F-350 to show how cool I am'' truck, expect a window full of pennies if you ride my ass.

p.s. - drinkmore, calm down man. I have roadrage, but internetforumrage is slightly less tolerable.

I am calm

I have road rage when it comes to idiots. Forumrage is much more difficult to control sometimes. I agree with most of what you say. I think hummers are a joke. I also think lifted 12 feet f150's are a joke. I see no practical purpose to either one.

Notice how it's the "uneducated" that are the most "educated" when it comes to things.

[PeterTHX]

I am tired of hearing this crap. It has NOTHING to do with this and is a load of bull sh*t. You have been brain washed!

Dude, it's simple supply & demand, one of the very basic elements of economics. I see 20 something women, with NO kids, driving these monsters around. It's like an extension of their closet or something. How many guys have pickups just because they think they need one? Drive on any highway and you'll see them shiny and unused. Pickups who actually owned by people use their pickups for what they're meant for usually look beat to hell.

Compare the MPG of a Yukon or a Tahoe to a Honda Odyssey or any other minivan that has lots of cargo/passenger space. There's no comparison. I'm paying more out of pocket because of the selfishness of others. Not to mention these vehicles cost $30-$50k anyway! If I need something hauled, I'll pay the $75-$100 for delivery or one day truck rental rather than the *thousands* more over the course of a year in fuel.

[Papi4baby]

Originally Posted by jsteinhauer

I'm sorry, but it's worldwide demand that has increased gas prices. The growing wealthy and middle classes in Asia especially are buying more and more vehicles that demand gasoline. Also, if you take a long look back at gasoline prices during the Carter administration and adjust for inflation, you'll find that they are just about right on, AND, the tax on a gallon of gas is much higher just about everywhere. Gas remains dirt cheap...much cheaper than a gallon of drinking water or a small cup of coffee beverage. If you want cheap gas, move to Venezuela, the land of the free.

Yup, hit it right there, CHINA. But mostly the great OPEC. I can't wait till the suppose Oil shale reserve we have is actually cost effective to mine so we cant stop importing oil and say **** to everyone else that likes to **** us.

Originally Posted by PeterTHX

Not just that. It's the huge increase in unnecessary gas guzzlers on the road.

Look at Europe, hardly any SUVs or pickups. Perhaps European pricing will get these idiots who buy the biggest monster on the lot to get a clue.

Europe uses mostly Diesel not gas.

Originally Posted by sohjonn

it's all HD-DVD's fault.

Originally Posted by SKRUhddvd

i blame microsoft, toshiba, paramount, and universal. damm them!

Yes it is down with them, lol.

[BTBuck1]

Originally Posted by PeterTHX

Dude, it's simple supply & demand, one of the very basic elements of economics. I see 20 something women, with NO kids, driving these monsters around. It's like an extension of their closet or something. How many guys have pickups just because they think they need one? Drive on any highway and you'll see them shiny and unused. Pickups who actually owned by people use their pickups for what they're meant for usually look beat to hell.

Compare the MPG of a Yukon or a Tahoe to a Honda Odyssey or any other minivan that has lots of cargo/passenger space. There's no comparison. I'm paying more out of pocket because of the selfishness of others. Not to mention these vehicles cost $30-$50k anyway! If I need something hauled, I'll pay the $75-$100 for delivery or one day truck rental rather than the *thousands* more over the course of a year in fuel.

Brilliant, amen to all of that!

[JTK]

Pretty depressing when I hear the news folks say how likely it is we'll see $4 a gallon for the lowest end gas by next summer.

[DrinkMore]

Originally Posted by PeterTHX

Dude, it's simple supply & demand, one of the very basic elements of economics. I see 20 something women, with NO kids, driving these monsters around. It's like an extension of their closet or something. How many guys have pickups just because they think they need one? Drive on any highway and you'll see them shiny and unused. Pickups who actually owned by people use their pickups for what they're meant for usually look beat to hell.

Compare the MPG of a Yukon or a Tahoe to a Honda Odyssey or any other minivan that has lots of cargo/passenger space. There's no comparison. I'm paying more out of pocket because of the selfishness of others. Not to mention these vehicles cost $30-$50k anyway! If I need something hauled, I'll pay the $75-$100 for delivery or one day truck rental rather than the *thousands* more over the course of a year in fuel.

You keep telling yourself that.

[vsbdtv]

Originally Posted by PrinceLH

Could be the devaluation of the U.S. currency, worldwide.

The potential upside to a weaker dollar is that U.S. exports become cheaper. So foreign markets, which in many cases already are leaning strongly Blu, could really start producing for the format.

Even with higher energy prices, energy costs as a fraction of GDP are significantly below historical highs.

[MasterXeus]

Originally Posted by DrinkMore

I am tired of hearing this crap. It has NOTHING to do with this and is a load of bull sh*t. You have been brain washed!

We have 1 choice for fuel for our vehicles. Gas. NO OTHER CHOICES! You seriously thing SUV's, Trucks and the like have ANY impact on how high our prices go? Perhaps SOMEONE needs a clue on economics and the fact that our government is a piss poor machine at best.

Besides the fact that us AMERICANS have NO OTHER CHOICES in what FUEL TO USE - why should people like you criticize other people for driving larger vehicles that use more gas? Why should YOU chastise them for having a vehicle that has no alternative fuel methods? Perhaps your attention should be turned to all the luxury vehicles on the road that burn far more fuel.. BMW, Mercedes, Porsche - etc etc.. racing vehicles that burn up fuel. There are so many things OTHER THAN that SUV wasting gas that it's insane.

If you want to blame someone - blame yourself. Blame the car manufacturers for NOT changing their ways. Blame them for NOT giving us an alternative. Blame the Government for their piss poor handling in this area. Blame BIG OIL for getting even more greedy. Blame whomever you want.

The fact of the matter is - pointing your finger a joe blow suv driver is wrong. He has no choice in the matter. Could he drive a smaller vehicle? Sure. Would that save gas? Yeah. Is it his choice? Yup. Does it drive up gas prices? Nope. Is there another choice? Nope.

So please, spread your ignorance else where. Perhaps you drive a HYBRID - don't get me started on those POS cars. Another bandaid made to look like a fix. A joke at best. Do you recycle? How much water do you waste? Are you fixed?

The real answer to this problem? Enough BS of pointing the finger and placing the blame on everyone else but yourself. Do something about it. Make something happen. Remember, were the consumers. Or has everyone in America lost their ball sack?

I'm done

Although I don't think I would put it that way. I do agree with you about the Lack of Options. It would be nice to have another Fuel source other than Gas.

The oil companies don't care, they're reporting record high profits.

To answer some of your questions
Yes I recycle.
I don't waste much water.
I don't have solar power, but looking into it.

[flyingdutchman]

Originally Posted by Blu-Light

We have two now.

The problem is the demand in Asia. The chinese are KILLING the world. They are driving the cost up of quite a few commodities including oil, lumber and steel.
Hmm, what do they have in mind?

Consumption of fuel in this country has steadily grown in the past 50 years however, with refineries running at full capacity for over 15 years the output has remained relativily constant.

We are getting squeezed by the terrorist, er I mean the middle east oil cartels and the chinese.

That's just plain ignorant. You don't think the gas guzzlers you are driving now have nothing to do with higher gas prices? Good lord.

[JJ]

I'm getting 5 miles a dollar on my Expedition.

Haha, but I love that car, hate me if you must.