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Old 02-05-2008, 09:04 PM   #21
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In my time I've had three Yamaha receivers and have loved them all. I've been thinking about replacing mine as it is many years old. I've always went to higher-end stores and avoided the Best Buy HTR version Yamaha equipment. Is there a difference between the HTR series and the RX-V besides locations where you can buy it?

Heres what the Yamaha Website says:

What is the difference between the RX-V line and the HTR line AV receivers ?
There are many similarities between these two product lines. The RX-V line and the HTR line are produced in the same Yamaha factory using the same high quality parts throughout. The RX-V and equivalent HTR models have the same warranty periods; the same manufacturers suggested retail price, the same features, and the same remote control units. There is a cosmetic difference found on the front panels of these two lines. The RX-V line maintains the traditional white colored lettering normally found on most Yamaha components, while the HTR line provides a slightly different approach. Yamaha has created a new look by using gold colored lettering in selected areas on the HTR receiver series. However, both the RX-V line and the HTR line feature the same high quality black metal front panel construction. The amplifiers in the HTR and RX-V units are identical but rated differently to comply with the accepted measurement standards of their respective channels of distribution. Both ratings are FTC approved and are designed to handle the dynamics of today's audio and video sources. The RX-V line has the power amplifiers rated from 20-20000 Hz. The HTR line has the power amplifiers rated at 1000 Hz. Both lines can reproduce the full frequency response of 20-20000 Hz. The RX-V line is typically sold through Yamaha authorized audio/video specialty retailers, and is not available for mail order sales. The HTR line is sold through mass merchants, catalog retailers, and department stores. You may also purchase the HTR line through the mail. All transactions must be done through the authorized Yamaha dealer network. Any purchase made from an unauthorized dealer/retailer voids the Yamaha manufacturer's warranty.

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Old 02-05-2008, 09:08 PM   #22
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The RX-V line is typically sold through Yamaha authorized audio/video specialty retailers, and is not available for mail order sales.
Not quite true anymore. I got my RX-V1800 from Crutchfield.
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Not quite true anymore. I got my RX-V1800 from Crutchfield.
Heres the link I copied..... I guess they need to update it !

http://www.yamaha.com/yec/faq/faqdet...09145#t_205010
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Old 02-05-2008, 09:13 PM   #24
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Heres the link I copied..... I guess they need to update it !
I believe you! I just didn't want anyone getting scared off from buying one because they think they they have to go through a high-end retailer.

I thinks it's only been within the last year or so that companies like Crutchfield started being allowed to carry the RX line. Guess Yamaha realized all the potential sales they were losing.
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well I have until the 17th of this month to return my Denon 2808ci for the Yamaha RX-V1800. while the Denon is Amazing. the Yamaha has 2 more HDMI imputs. and is putting out more watts per channel than the Denon model.

I am currently using BOTH of the HDMI inputs on my denon and fear I will want more inputs down the road. the yamaha looks to be the way to
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here is a side by side comparison on crutchfield.com
http://www.crutchfield.com/cgi-bin/P...ems=022RXV1800

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Old 02-05-2008, 10:32 PM   #26
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I own the RXV3800 and could not be happier with the unit. I have not set up the streaming internet radio function (too lazy), but I did purchase the Ipod dock. That thing is really cool. I like the fact that the 3800 allows me to display the Ipod on my monitor.

I have a PS3, so I have yet to hear a DTS HD MA soundtrack, but the PCM and Dolby TrueHD versions rock.

I have had Yamaha's, Denon's and Sony's in the past. While I think Denon makes a quality AVR, I would not trade in my RXV3800 for anything but the Yamaha Z11 (or whatever the new flagship AVR is?).

The only thing I would change with the 3800 (and I think this is the same for the 1800) is that the volume indicator is too small on the front display. Not a big deal really though.
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I have a hard time reading the Volume display on my Denon I can't imagine anything being worse to read. from my couch I can't read it at all. I wonder if the V1800 has on screen display of your volume level.

anyone know?
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I have a hard time reading the Volume display on my Denon I can't imagine anything being worse to read. from my couch I can't read it at all. I wonder if the V1800 has on screen display of your volume level.

anyone know?
Both the V1800 and the V3800 have OSD but not over HDMI!
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So is my RX-V995 dated? Or can I get some sort of external decoder for all the latest in HD sound and keep rockin'?
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thanks, guys I think I will give The V1800 a shot. this weekend.

huge plus for me is 4 HDMI inputs.

it has 130 watts per channel over denons 110 now would this even be noticeable to my human ear?
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Heres what the Yamaha Website says:

What is the difference between the RX-V line and the HTR line AV receivers ?
There are many similarities between these two product lines. The RX-V line and the HTR line are produced in the same Yamaha factory using the same high quality parts throughout. The RX-V and equivalent HTR models have the same warranty periods; the same manufacturers suggested retail price, the same features, and the same remote control units. There is a cosmetic difference found on the front panels of these two lines. The RX-V line maintains the traditional white colored lettering normally found on most Yamaha components, while the HTR line provides a slightly different approach. Yamaha has created a new look by using gold colored lettering in selected areas on the HTR receiver series. However, both the RX-V line and the HTR line feature the same high quality black metal front panel construction. The amplifiers in the HTR and RX-V units are identical but rated differently to comply with the accepted measurement standards of their respective channels of distribution. Both ratings are FTC approved and are designed to handle the dynamics of today's audio and video sources. The RX-V line has the power amplifiers rated from 20-20000 Hz. The HTR line has the power amplifiers rated at 1000 Hz. Both lines can reproduce the full frequency response of 20-20000 Hz. The RX-V line is typically sold through Yamaha authorized audio/video specialty retailers, and is not available for mail order sales. The HTR line is sold through mass merchants, catalog retailers, and department stores. You may also purchase the HTR line through the mail. All transactions must be done through the authorized Yamaha dealer network. Any purchase made from an unauthorized dealer/retailer voids the Yamaha manufacturer's warranty.
I'm glad you posted that link, because I've read and quoted it to people for many years now. Historically, Yamaha has manufactured both the HT-R and RX-V line for separate distribution channels. You'd find the RX-V line in specialty audio stores like Magnolia Hi-Fi and up, while the HTR line would be found in more mass-market retailers and a handful of authorized online retailers. The only differences were largely cosmetic, with slightly different face panels, and typically around 3 flagship models reserved for the boutique RX-V line. Both model lines for comparable receivers shared identical components, including power supplies, Burr Brown DACs, and DSP circuitry. Being a bit budget minded, I've always opted for the HTR line given the choice between the two. Cosmetically, the gold lettering on the black metal front looks better than white lettering. I have a Yamaha DVD-S2500, which was their flagship universal player a year ago at $995, and it looks and sounds incredible. However, it has the white lettering scheme, and doesn't look quite as nice as the gold on my HT-R receivers.

The newest features are always introduced in the upper part of the RX-V line first, so Dolby True HD and DTS-HD Master are available in the RX-V1800, RX-V3800, and RX-Z11, which is a 11.2 channel beast and grandson of the legendary RX-Z1. Yamaha uses the trickle down theory, so most of the features introduced in the RX-Z1 years ago, such as the use of Burr Brown DACS on all channels are now found throughout the RX-V and HT-R line.

If I had enough to swing for a new receiver today, I'd definitely go for a RX-V1800 or 3800 to replace my HTR 5960, which sounds incredible as it is. Yamaha typically releases new models around May though, so it might be worth it to wait a couple of months.
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