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Old 01-16-2007, 08:00 PM   #21
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So from now until end of March, they have 4 million PS3s to ship. That's roughly 10 weeks. So that's 400K a week to ship worldwide. Those factory workers must be cranking already! That 400K units must already be on a slow boat to Europe and Australia!


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Old 01-16-2007, 08:03 PM   #22
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On the offical PS3 site they have the console priced as follows

20 Gb PS3 499 euros or £332

60 Gb PS3 599 euros or £399


If these figures are indeed correct I will be well pleased

I thought my 5 were going to cost nearer the £3000
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Old 01-16-2007, 09:01 PM   #23
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sony has been shipping them like hot cakes!
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Old 01-16-2007, 09:30 PM   #24
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So from now until end of March, they have 4 million PS3s to ship. That's roughly 10 weeks. So that's 400K a week to ship worldwide. Those factory workers must be cranking already! That 400K units must already be on a slow boat to Europe and Australia!
With the release of some of the hot titles (games and movies), I would expect:

1 million PS/3 sell in Europe in March
1.5 million more in North America through March
1 million more in Japan through March
500K elsewhere

That's 4.0 million to go with the 1.5 million. So, sales of about 5.5 million and shipments meeting the 6 million target at the end of March.

Clearly, any big excitement could send the PS/3 back into massive shortage again.

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Old 01-16-2007, 09:35 PM   #25
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So from now until end of March, they have 4 million PS3s to ship. That's roughly 10 weeks. So that's 400K a week to ship worldwide. Those factory workers must be cranking already! That 400K units must already be on a slow boat to Europe and Australia!


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I think the 6m number includes Europe as my HMV (where I now work) has the PS3 slated in at March 19th, and they have said 6m by the end of March, and our store, a major one has been told we will have 16-20 for pre-order, and 100 for opening night.

So I think the number shipped to EU will be quite large if my store is going to get about 120. I would expect around 300k just to the UK.
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So I think the number shipped to EU will be quite large if my store is going to get about 120. I would expect around 300k just to the UK.
Just so I don't commit faux pas. Can I assume by the statement above that the British now generally consider themselves to be Europeans? Or was that choice of EU deliberate?

I'll tell you, never call a Canadian an American. Despite it meaning person of the Americas over there (correct?), it does NOT have that meaning here. However, North American is perfectly acceptable.



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BTW, HMV is a major retailer in these parts too.

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Old 01-16-2007, 10:33 PM   #27
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With the release of some of the hot titles (games and movies), I would expect:

1 million PS/3 sell in Europe in March
1.5 million more in North America through March
1 million more in Japan through March
500K elsewhere

That's 4.0 million to go with the 1.5 million. So, sales of about 5.5 million and shipments meeting the 6 million target at the end of March.

Clearly, any big excitement could send the PS/3 back into massive shortage again.

Gary
I think they will easily be more than 1.5 million sold in Europe alone...

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Old 01-16-2007, 10:37 PM   #28
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^^^ Not if the release date is as deep as March 19.

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Old 01-16-2007, 10:37 PM   #29
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Just so I don't commit faux pas. Can I assume by the statement above that the British now generally consider themselves to be Europeans? Or was that choice of EU deliberate?

I'll tell you, never call a Canadian an American. Despite it meaning person of the Americas over there (correct?), it does NOT have that meaning here. However, North American is perfectly acceptable.



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BTW, HMV is a major retailer in these parts too.
I am only European once every two years, when the Golf Ryder Cup is on, otherwise I am English. In the same way Canadians like being called Canadians, the we have a big sense of national pride.

AFAIK, American is just a person from the USA, Canadians get their own distinction, don't worry .

As far as Britain goes, it may cease to exist in the next few months, so soon it will be England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland. Lots of local turmoil, but that is for a different discussion.
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Old 01-16-2007, 10:44 PM   #30
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^^^ Not if the release date is as deep as March 19.

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That is why they have a shipped figure rather than a sold figure, they will probably ship 6m worldwide, but as to whether they can sell 1.5m in EU/UK alone, I don't rightly know.

Put it this way, Cardiff (where I work and live when at college) has about 300k people and we will be getting 120 in our store, the Game (EB equivalent) will be getting about 50, and other local retailers (SonyStyle, Dixons, PC World) will get another 100 between them. so that makes about 270 in a city of 300k.

The London HMVs are reporting around 10,000 between about 50-60 stores, but I expect 2,000 just for the two biggest ones on Oxford Street. When the PS2 launched the queue was about 700 people long for one of them, and back then you could purchase up to two consoles each, but now it is one per person.
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One per 1000 residents. Wow. 167-200 average per London HMV. Another wow.

Geez, this may be bigger than I thought.

What would you say is the feasible (able to afford it) population of Europe + UK?

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Old 01-16-2007, 11:18 PM   #32
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One per 1000 residents. Wow. 167-200 average per London HMV. Another wow.

Geez, this may be bigger than I thought.

What would you say is the feasible (able to afford it) population of Europe + UK?

Gary
Well it is very difficult to say, I can pretty much guarantee that the launch consoles will all sell out in Cardiff, our HMV has about 200 people on a list who have a deposit for a pre-order (ridiculous, I know, not the number but the system of paying to sign-up to pay for a pre-order). So the first 20 of them to come into our shop will get a pre-order, and the rest will go on opening night, as we are the biggest gaming/music retailer in the city.

London is a more difficult one to predict, with reports of 10,000 flying around I can't say whether they will all sell on opening night, because there are so many smaller shops that will be over-allocated. It could be 10,000 for all of London rather than just HMV, it would make more sense and it seems the big retailers are going to be sharing their figures on this.

Of the population that can afford it, London is an extremely affluent city so that will not be a problem and I haven't heard many people complain about the price tag, the original PS was £299 if I remember correctly and the PS2 was the same, adjusted for inflation the price of the PS3 is not actually that bad. It works out that the PS was about £420 in today's terms, and the PS2 was £370 so the price difference in real terms is not that big, which is why I along with most people aren't complaining. I think the UK should be OK. Germany might be OK, but with the current situation with recently introduced higher taxes and lower earnings reported and unemployment still at an all-time high, it is difficult to say, but having said that Playstation has traditionally done very well in the UK and Germany. Not sure about France, I just don't know enough about the situation. Spain and Italy will be very difficult to predict the income range varies so wildly in those two countries and many are still getting over the shock of introducing the €uro in their countries, so spending is down.
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One per 1000 residents. Wow. 167-200 average per London HMV. Another wow.

Geez, this may be bigger than I thought.

What would you say is the feasible (able to afford it) population of Europe + UK?

Gary
Same here, 150+ per store is pretty impressive....

1.5 million might just be possible...
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Yeah, that why it took me four months before I finally find Xbox 360 in April 27 2006, it took me 5 different stores on the same day to find it, only 1 out of 5 that had xbox 360 in stock.

It took Mircosoft more than 7 months last year before it become easier to find at stores for Xbox 360.

Oh, yes I remember that Mircosoft did not have enough stock to ship them and have some problems.
Hmmmm could the cause of this lack of units for sale in the first four months be that instead of shipping to retail outlets for sale, they were busy shipping warrantee replacement units? Just a thought.
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I'm still not sure about the 2 million.

I really don't know. Sony can officially say 1 million plus in USA and 1 million has been reached for Japan (three hours ago)....................................... but when I checked vgcharts.org a few minutes ago, it still said 1.5 million total units (as of time of post).

I don't know where this 2 million came from as Sony still has 500k more to go before that 2m figure.

I really don't know.
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I'm still not sure about the 2 million.

I really don't know. Sony can officially say 1 million plus in USA and 1 million has been reached for Japan (three hours ago)....................................... but when I checked vgcharts.org a few minutes ago, it still said 1.5 million total units (as of time of post).

I don't know where this 2 million came from as Sony still has 500k more to go before that 2m figure.

I really don't know.
The vgcharts figure is for consoles sold-through to customers, Sony are reporting shipped figures, which can include numbers still in transit, sitting on shelves and in BB warehouses, etc...
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Oh and I would prefer if figures I have mentioned stay on this forum, so members, lurkers, please try not to quote them on other forums, I could get into trouble if my HMV finds out.

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The vgcharts figure is for consoles sold-through to customers, Sony are reporting shipped figures, which can include numbers still in transit, sitting on shelves and in BB warehouses, etc...
I see.

But to be conservative, I'll just use the vgcharts.org figures.

I've said before that I don't need the whole 6 million. If I see that by April 1st (aka. April Fools Day :P) that they have AT LEAST 5 million units stated by VGcharts, then I'll give Sony applause.
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500K elsewhere

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I think Elsewhere is called Australia. Well maybe not all 500K but I know there are some very big back orders (no one is saying exact numbers, just BIG) many from customers having put down deposits, bring it on.
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