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LBP 55 65.48%
R2 29 34.52%
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Old 09-29-2008, 09:36 PM   #21
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LBP will outsell because it has a much broader audience in mind. Everyone that has a PS3 will find enjoyment out of this game. Many PS3 owners won't care for another FPS.

I enjoyed R:FOM as much as the next guy, but after UT3 and MGS4 I'm done with FPS and 3PS games for a long while. LBP on the other hand is going to be the best thing to come out since the launch of the PS3!!!
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Old 09-29-2008, 11:01 PM   #22
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LBP will outsell because it has a much broader audience in mind. Everyone that has a PS3 will find enjoyment out of this game. Many PS3 owners won't care for another FPS.

I enjoyed R:FOM as much as the next guy, but after UT3 and MGS4 I'm done with FPS and 3PS games for a long while. LBP on the other hand is going to be the best thing to come out since the launch of the PS3!!!
Yes but not all older users will fine interest in another 2d platformer game either.

Like myself who has been official out platformed.
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Old 09-29-2008, 11:25 PM   #23
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Resistence sold a LOT of copies considering it was a launch title. I'd say R2 has a good chance of out-selling LBP. Either way, both titles will be huge hitters I'm sure, with the amount of publicity their both getting.
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Old 09-29-2008, 11:37 PM   #24
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Just throwing this out there...


Don't forget about all the people who bought a PS3 primarily as a Bluray player, not a gaming console.

Those are LBP's audience and like it or not, they make up a _very_ significant portion of PS3 unit sales. Particularly in the USA.

Also, LBP is almost a perfect fit into the Japanese gaming culture where FPS is far less developed. Europe is a middle ground animal, of course, but I think MM being there (knowing that customer best) Europe is going to find elements in LBP that significantly cater to their needs in gaming.

True... The United States is very FPS focused comparatively (hence the 360 dominating the market here); however, much of that has been commercially driven by marketing. It's a fact (and I'm too lazy to look up where I read this yesterday) that the marketing spending and 'hype' created on FPS is far disproportional to it's relative market share when you compare to non-violent games (which make up the majority of gaming purchases, believe it or not).

For me, it's hard to get my head around those facts because I'm generally playing AAA/overhyped/fps, whatever, titles as well as many folks on this forum; however, it doesn't make it less true regardless how unfathomable or illogical it is from our perspective.

LBP will sell more than I think anyone on this forum can imagine at this point, except for maybe a select few who are a possibly more connected to the inner workings of things.

Both titles are going to one thing, though, and that is sell a _ton_ of PS3's.

R2 is likely to be the FPS to finally illustrate undeniably to 360 fans that the PS3 is simply capable of more (and Killzone2 will follow that up heavily in Feb) and LBP is going to show the Wii folks and 360 owners what a true social network is and can be (while still providing more content out of the box to play through than any other game in that genre by tenfold).

Both titles will be amazing.
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Old 09-30-2008, 12:52 AM   #25
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It seems a lot of people here are grossly misjudging the PS3 audience....

....the current PS3 fanbase is primarily composed of relatively immature teenage boys and young men (okay, so you may have a job and a steady gf, but you know you're still pretty immature).

....Plus, you take into account that the PS3 has a much less developed install base than the PS2 with less niche/"hardcore" (in terms of game sophistication) gamers....
You seem to be well convinced Mamba, that the PS3 audience is an immature one made up of the young. I'm afraid I would have to argue that the contrary is true, and for one reason specifically - money.

As we all know, the PS3 is not a cheap machine. There are only two real options for an immature boy to get his hands on a PS3, the first would be to purchase one for himself. That immediately rules out anyone up to around age 17, because if they're so immature, they're never going to save up $400 or $500 from chores or mowing neighbors yards.

As for those older immature boys who may have a "steady" job (flipping burgers or some other crap ass retail job in the local mall for minimum wage most likely), something tells me they wouldn't know the value of a dollar. Although the PS3 is well worth the heavy price tag because of everything Sony packed into it, an immature person wouldn't have done their homework - they would simply choose the cheaper console not knowing what they could have had.

The other option for an immature boy to get a hold of a PS3 is for their parents to buy one for them, but just as in the previous scenario, when parents go console shopping for their kids all they will see is the price tag - never fully understanding what each system offers, only concerned with which costs the least.

All this being said, it's pretty easy to see why the Wii has come as far as it has even though it's a last gen system - but more to my point, I see it as very unlikely for an immature boy to end up with a PS3. There will be some exceptions to this theory of course, but I would argue that more often than not, your typical PS3 owner bought his machine for himself and therefore 1)Has a job 2)The job pays well or he knows how to save his money well and not piss it away, and 3)Looked up what each console had to offer, and chose the PS3 as it holds the most value for the monies spent.

In other words your typical PS3 owner is far from immature, and I can only assume that as such, a mature and dare I say intelligent individual, he would be more interested in creating and building things (LBP) than in violence and destruction (R2)
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Old 09-30-2008, 01:03 AM   #26
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LBP appeals to more, plus people will shy away from R2 if they havent played the first, i however will be getting both
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Old 10-01-2008, 03:32 AM   #27
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I haven't seen anything in LBP that interests me. A platformer? No thanks. Maybe when I see created content in the future thats truly innovative.

I'll get R2 because I like the action, violence, and the story however cheesy. Just like a good action movie... except I am in it.

I don't really think video games are immature. I depends on the game you're playing.

We all watched movies when we were young. Just because you grow up it doesn't mean you'll stop watching. You'll just watch something like There Will Be Blood, while you 9 year old niece watches Cars.

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Old 10-01-2008, 07:26 AM   #28
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Old 10-01-2008, 07:41 AM   #29
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Little Big Planet but however i will say that Resistance 2 will be no pushover but its kind of hard to say really i mean since most games on the PS3 are shooters Resistance will be another game for shooter fans to enjoy. with Little Big Planet though a lot of people who have a ps3 and have kids probably might buy Little Big Planet so that the kids can have their own game to play but of course that would mean sharing the ps3 and taking turns unless you have an extra PS3 like this guy


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Old 10-01-2008, 07:48 AM   #30
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LittleBigPlanet by a landslide. Not to say Resistance 2 won't sell well, but LBP's cute factor makes it widely appealing to a huge market segment: kids. While the older adults may or may not be "platformed out", their kids most certainly are not, and anyone who has kids and a PS3 will pick up LBP.
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Old 10-01-2008, 08:40 AM   #31
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This is a no brainer, LBP is a bigger demographics than Resistance.
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Old 10-01-2008, 12:44 PM   #32
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R2 for the short term, but LBP will gain momentum through word of mouth.

Personally, I want both to make extremely good numbers and mark 2008 as the year of the PS3
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Old 10-01-2008, 04:08 PM   #33
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You seem to be well convinced Mamba, that the PS3 audience is an immature one made up of the young. I'm afraid I would have to argue that the contrary is true, and for one reason specifically - money.

As we all know, the PS3 is not a cheap machine. There are only two real options for an immature boy to get his hands on a PS3, the first would be to purchase one for himself. That immediately rules out anyone up to around age 17, because if they're so immature, they're never going to save up $400 or $500 from chores or mowing neighbors yards.

As for those older immature boys who may have a "steady" job (flipping burgers or some other crap ass retail job in the local mall for minimum wage most likely), something tells me they wouldn't know the value of a dollar. Although the PS3 is well worth the heavy price tag because of everything Sony packed into it, an immature person wouldn't have done their homework - they would simply choose the cheaper console not knowing what they could have had.

The other option for an immature boy to get a hold of a PS3 is for their parents to buy one for them, but just as in the previous scenario, when parents go console shopping for their kids all they will see is the price tag - never fully understanding what each system offers, only concerned with which costs the least.

All this being said, it's pretty easy to see why the Wii has come as far as it has even though it's a last gen system - but more to my point, I see it as very unlikely for an immature boy to end up with a PS3. There will be some exceptions to this theory of course, but I would argue that more often than not, your typical PS3 owner bought his machine for himself and therefore 1)Has a job 2)The job pays well or he knows how to save his money well and not piss it away, and 3)Looked up what each console had to offer, and chose the PS3 as it holds the most value for the monies spent.

In other words your typical PS3 owner is far from immature, and I can only assume that as such, a mature and dare I say intelligent individual, he would be more interested in creating and building things (LBP) than in violence and destruction (R2)
While I wish what you said was true, I really don't think it is. Although the PS3 is relatively expensive, I do not believe it's a big deal to people who play videogames due to the comparative pricing of the main competition (360). If people want to play the next-generation of games, they're going to have to get one (Note: the Wii is out of the equation because it targets a different demographic). Also, I think a lot of guys are more willing to spend a lot of money on entertainment than on other things (a friend of mine who's a casual gamer has a 360 yet once was saying how he spent $70 on a shirt [like it was a lot of money] - which I actually lol'ed to myself about because I think all my nice shirts are over $70 retail). Whether it's throwing down $1000+ for an HDTV or $250+ for a video ipod, that's what some guys do. Now, they may look and eat like hobos but still...

Also, you can be both intelligent and (have) immature (tastes) at the same time!
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All this being said, it's pretty easy to see why the Wii has come as far as it has even though it's a last gen system
I think the Wii selling so well has far less to do with immature boys who can't buy themselves a more expensive one (or their parents buy them the cheapest one), and far more to do with older people who never played games before being interested and buying one.
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Old 10-01-2008, 04:47 PM   #35
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which I actually lol'ed to myself about because I think all my nice shirts are over $70 retail).
I hope these are dress shirts, or cashmere sweaters on clearance.

I never understood why people pay $30+ for a t-shirt. But then again, the last time I cared about fashion was when the first Scottie Pippen shoes came out, and I felt like I had to have them. I think that was 6th grade.
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Old 10-01-2008, 04:57 PM   #36
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I hope these are dress shirts, or cashmere sweaters on clearance.

I never understood why people pay $30+ for a t-shirt. But then again, the last time I cared about fashion was when the first Scottie Pippen shoes came out, and I felt like I had to have them. I think that was 6th grade.
amen if im going to go buy a expensive shirt it best be at dillards on a 90% discount.

One of the dillards near me is a super discount dillards where all unwanted clothes go to die or be bought.

Usually you see things marked down from 30 dollars to 5 dollars, or from 70 to 12..

Course I once went to burkes and got a nice knitted long sleeve shirt for a nickel last year...

It had been discounted to a dollar, with a 95% additional discount.

Its a very well made shirt.
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i think they will sell the exact same amount. because who could pass up either???


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I hope these are dress shirts, or cashmere sweaters on clearance.

I never understood why people pay $30+ for a t-shirt. But then again, the last time I cared about fashion was when the first Scottie Pippen shoes came out, and I felt like I had to have them. I think that was 6th grade.
yeah, they're dress shirts. Most are for work and a couple for going out (although I do use most of them interchangably). I do admit though that back in the college days, I 'd be hardpressed to find even 1 $70+ shirt in my closet!
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