Star Wars: The Complete Saga (1977-2005)

[Stinky-Dinkins]

Saying Jar Jar Binks could've turned out to be a good character is like saying Hitler could've turned out to be a good world leader.

I didn't go in expecting anything beyond expecting them to be at least "good." They were absurdly boring, practically unwatchable. I was actually friggin' laughing at Jar Jar... most of the theater was... not because he was funny in the way Lucas intended but because he was just so ridiculously dumb it was hard to believe "this" was the new Star Wars movie.

[P@t_Mtl]

Originally Posted by Stinky-Dinkins

Saying Jar Jar Binks could've turned out to be a good character is like saying Hitler could've turned out to be a good world leader.

So you also did not pick up the main message of Star Wars, everyone can and should be redeemed, no wonder you hate it so much

[Stinky-Dinkins]

He should re re-edit Jedi so that when Luke pulls off the Vader mask it's actually Hitler, over-the-top German accent and everything.

Why not, I don't think that would be anymore ridiculous than putting in that smiling dope Hayden Christensen in there as a ghost.

[P@t_Mtl]

Originally Posted by Stinky-Dinkins

He should re-edit Jedi so that when Luke pulls off the Vader mask it's actually Hitler, over-the-top German accent and everything.

Why not, I don't think that would be anymore ridiculous than putting in that smiling dope Hayden Christensen in there as a ghost.

I think you are just so mad he just doesn't do them the way you want them done Put up a 200 millions of your own money, create a story and put it on film, edit things the way you want it too and show him how it's done. At the end of it all Lucas will probably enjoy seeing your trilogy cause he is a nice guy and he enjoy movies. So go right ahead you know how to do it, do it and show us what a great scifi trilogy should look like

[Stinky-Dinkins]

He did them the way I want them done when he originally did them. It's insane that such an important part of film history will likely never be released on a high quality format because Lucas wants to digitally insert shiny CG dildos all over the place.

Or are you talking about the new movies? I don't care about the new movies at all, he can do whatever he wants with 'em. Just aren't very good movies.

It's too bad Hemingway isn't still alive. The Old Man and the Sea could use a speedboat.

[P@t_Mtl]

Originally Posted by Stinky-Dinkins

It's too bad Hemingway isn't still alive. The Old Man and the Sea could use a speedboat.

You guys are killing me!!!!

You just made my point, it's not that you don't like the prequels, you would never have liked them anyway cause your hatred of Lucas goes back to 1997 for the Special Edition. You just won't ever sit down and look at the prequels, you will just hate them. That is what I mean when I say people would have hated them no matter what he did with them.

[Stinky-Dinkins]

Yahaha, please. I don't hate Lucas at all, I'm sure he's a great dude. I know he gives a shit load to charity and stuff.

I don't hate the prequels because the Special Edition changes suck, I hate the prequels because, as movies, they are poor. It's the exact same exact reason I love the first Matrix and can barely watch the following two. Believe me, I would love to have loved them. Their level of mediocrity was almost shocking.

Honestly, if you can watch stuff like:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mS95vcbQDtw

and actually think it's an improvement over the original I envy your high threshold for ass. The Special Editions are riddled with stuff like this - Not only is the content horrible, the quality of the special effects is extremely low and completely visually incongruous with the original stock. Han Solo bending like an odd-looking CG rubber mannequin so he can be made to shoot first? Great. That being said, none of this would matter in the slightest if he'd release the original, unaltered version in the midst of the constant re-releasing of the new, lower quality one. It really makes no sense, if nothing else it should be released for posterity. It's a hugely important part of film history and should be preserved in the highest quality possible.

It's not like I'm losing any sleep over it though. To be honest I don't care all that much, they're not my favorite movies of all time or anything, I'm just a fan of good movies. The original Star Wars movies (in particular the first two) are really, really good movies; the Special Editions less so.

[Alpha]

Originally Posted by P@t_Mtl

Jar Jar never really disturbed me much. I think some people just love to make too much out of it.

Definitely.

Personally, I didn't really HATE the prequels, at least not nearly as much as everyone else. Obviously the first three are at the top, but come on. Revenge of the Sith was pretty awesome. Yeah, lots of things could've been better, but it was solid.

[P@t_Mtl]

Originally Posted by Stinky-Dinkins

Honestly, if you can watch stuff like:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mS95vcbQDtw

I find this way less horrible then the original that look like a bad ripoff of The Muppet Show TV program You may be taken over by too much nostalgia I think, the original with that guy on keyboard moving around like Rowlf the Dog

[Stinky-Dinkins]

Ugh, no accounting for taste I guess. Nothing to do with nostalgia, to me that clip is unwatchably bad... and I'm not a huge fan of Jedi (original or not, Ewoks were shit from day 1 - Jedi is in equal parts masterpiece and horror show) to begin with.

Whatever, off to work.

[P@t_Mtl]

Originally Posted by Stinky-Dinkins

Ugh, no accounting for taste I guess. Nothing to do with nostalgia, to me that clip is unwatchably bad. And I'm not a huge fan of Jedi (original or not, Ewoks were shit from day 1) to begin with.

Whatever, off to work.

No accounting for taste indeed since you like the original scene

[Stinky-Dinkins]

The full gallery of emoticons was one of the worst decisions this forum ever made.

Never said I liked it. I said it wasn't as bad as that new, god awful version (which is not exactly hard to do.)

[P@t_Mtl]

Originally Posted by Stinky-Dinkins

The full gallery of emoticons was one of the worst decisions this forum ever made.

Never said I liked it. I said it wasn't as bad as that new, god awful version (which is not exactly hard to do.)

I love the emoticon by the way here is a few more I enjoy

Star Wars prequels rock

Some people are just way too serious for their own personal good

Jar Jar is wonderful

Wish I had a dollar every time I read the prequels and special edition are bad and I have no taste for liking them

I get Star Wars on Blu-ray in 2011 and that make's me happy

I try to get not too up tight about movies

[Beast]

Originally Posted by P@t_Mtl

I find this way less horrible then the original that look like a bad ripoff of The Muppet Show TV program You may be taken over by too much nostalgia I think, the original with that guy on keyboard moving around like Rowlf the Dog

Agreed. I much prefer "Jedi Rocks" to "Lapti Nek", loved the new additions to the Max Rebo Band.

It just really was better all around. And it was nice to finally see a Yuzzum that wans't just leaning against a wall.

It just seems more like a wild den of thieves, and fits Jabba's decadence more than the original slow song.

[Apinamakina]

Well, as young man who saw Episode 1 first, I don't mind those differents what Lucas made to the three last episodes. I liked how he changed Emperor's image in Empire Strikes Back, it is actually even better now.
And putting Hayden as a ghost in Return of the Jedi was good call too. It showed that Anakin's appearance before he fall to the dark side joined with the force, not that tainted by the dark side and injuries. It does make sense. And I'm more happy to see Hayden there than that other old guy. Though I don't blame guys who disagree with me, as it is matter of opinion.

And as for the Greedo shoots hirst, I don't care. It's not that important after all. But I don't like that "new" Jabba in Episode 4. It looks worse.

But I must admit, as I like Star Wars movies very much, I hate the first two episodes. Why I hate Episode 1? Well:
-Jar Jar Binks (It's like Lucas brought Disney's Goofy to Star Wars and changed his appearance. It wasn't fun, it was silly.)
-Child Anakin (I always hate little kids in movies, especially if they're at big part.)

And why I hate Episode 2? Well I can't say any special parts, but it was frankly quite boring to watch. It was mostly just talking and nearly all the action was put on the end. And as some guys have said: Hayden isn't the best actor but he does fit to be Anakin. If I buy this episode as blu-ray, I probably watch it only once.

And for the last: I loved Episode 3, there was only one little insignificant thing: The voices of the battle droids. I think they had good voices in two previous parts, so why change them now? They sounded more childish.
Other than that, Episode 3 was a great movie. Not as good as the old trilogy, but definitely best of the prequels.

I hope Lucas does some sort of 'special release' too.

[Beast]

Originally Posted by Apinamakina

Well, as young man who saw Episode 1 first, I don't mind those differents what Lucas made to the three last episodes. I liked how he changed Emperor's image in Empire Strikes Back, it is actually even better now.

Yeah, OLME (Old Lady Monkey Eyes) Emperor always bugged the hell out of me.

That was one of the best changes to Empire Strikes Back. Shame there was no addition of Palpatine to A New Hope. Since he's such a main character to the Saga. And really feels like he should have been included there as well. Perhaps a scene where Palpy is disbanding the Senate or something.

And putting Hayden as a ghost in Return of the Jedi was good call too. It showed that Anakin's appearance before he fall to the dark side joined with the force, not that tainted by the dark side and injuries. It does make sense. And I'm more happy to see Hayden there than that other old guy. Though I don't blame guys who disagree with me, as it is matter of opinion.

Indeed. Hayden Anakin made a lot more sense to the narrative.

As I have said before, if one is a luminous being not bound by the limitations of the flesh in spirit form as Yoda claims, why would Anakin choose to manifest in a form that he doesn't recognize or even see as himself. Especially when he's already not manifesting as the limbless, bald, scarred form of Anakin. It also supports Obi-Wan's argument that Anakin from his point of view died when he became Darth Vader.

[Bluyoda]

Originally Posted by Stinky-Dinkins

Yahaha, please. I don't hate Lucas at all, I'm sure he's a great dude. I know he gives a shit load to charity and stuff.

I don't hate the prequels because the Special Edition changes suck, I hate the prequels because, as movies, they are poor. It's the exact same exact reason I love the first Matrix and can barely watch the following two. Believe me, I would love to have loved them. Their level of mediocrity was almost shocking.

Honestly, if you can watch stuff like:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mS95vcbQDtw

and actually think it's an improvement over the original I envy your high threshold for ass. The Special Editions are riddled with stuff like this - Not only is the content horrible, the quality of the special effects is extremely low and completely visually incongruous with the original stock. Han Solo bending like an odd-looking CG rubber mannequin so he can be made to shoot first? Great. That being said, none of this would matter in the slightest if he'd release the original, unaltered version in the midst of the constant re-releasing of the new, lower quality one. It really makes no sense, if nothing else it should be released for posterity. It's a hugely important part of film history and should be preserved in the highest quality possible.

It's not like I'm losing any sleep over it though. To be honest I don't care all that much, they're not my favorite movies of all time or anything, I'm just a fan of good movies. The original Star Wars movies (in particular the first two) are really, really good movies; the Special Editions less so.

For someone who doesn't care about them you do an awful lot of writing about them.

Well, those are your opinions, and you are entitled to have them, as are we to ours.

To say people who like Jar Jar need to be watched by the authorities however, is again out of place.

I like Jar Jar. He is not my favorite character by any stretch of the imagination, but he's fun, and fits into TPM, as it's more innocent in nature, and the beginning of a shift towards the downfall of the republic and the jedi...

Either way, I pray you will never make it into politics, as you would be one hell of a crazy dictator.

The Prequels are gold to me, if they are poo to you, then so be it.

Oh, and to compare the Matrix trilogy with ANYTHING SW is an insult of epic proportions, as the Matrix movies are a complete disaster, most of all the 2 sequels.

Tolerance is a virtue!

[Stinky-Dinkins]

Originally Posted by Bluyoda

To say people who like Jar Jar need to be watched by the authorities however, is again out of place.

Ahahaha. WOOSH is the sound it makes as it goes over your head.

[timE1985]

I'm suprised there's so much support for the prequel trilogies and special editions on a forum of supposed movie fans. It seems to me that the divide here is between people that enjoyed the movies either before 1997 or after 1999. The original trilogy was a modern hollywood classic. It'd be like a CGI remake of Back to the Future today, but with nonsensical alterations. Like Biff appearing on the train at the end or a randomly inserted psuedo-hip hop song.

[bandit29]

I have a question..I don't know if this has been asked...but are we getting the the unaltered original trilogy on blu-ray?.... I've heard rumors that we aren't...