Is The Wizard of Oz Screen Aspect Full Screen? - Page 3 - Blu-ray Forum

tilapiah6 · 10-18-2009, 02:51 PM

When adopting Blu-ray technology, you're also adopting only getting original aspect ratios. There is no such thing as 'full screen', or 'wide screen' when watching Blu-rays; only the original aspect ratios. Unfortunately, directors have different visions of what those ratios should be. It also depends on the time and place that the movie was made.

Pressing 'zoom' on the TV only drops the resolution and cuts off part of the picture. Never do that!

Riff Magnum · 10-18-2009, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by blugojira

i find black bars unnoticeable when watching movies
does everyone have add or somthing?

You mean OCD?

I love vertical bars for widescreen movies, but will admit that horizontal bars do tend to annoy me for some reason. Like others have said, turning off the lights is the best solution it seems.

Dotpattern · 10-18-2009, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Riff Magnum

You mean OCD?

I love vertical bars for widescreen movies, but will admit that horizontal bars do tend to annoy me for some reason. Like others have said, turning off the lights is the best solution it seems.

"Vertical bars for widescreen movies"?? You should have your "guru" title revoked!

Atreyu · 10-18-2009, 03:58 PM

I love watching films in their original aspect ratio. That's why I got a laserdisc player when they were popular because a lot of lasers were coming out widescreen, and I read somewhere the first widescreen laserdisc was done in Japan and since Japan also has the NTSC system they were compatable with the US and that's how widescreen or letterbox started to become popular.

And once I get immersed in a movie I don't even notice the bars, whether they are on the top and bottom or the sides.

Riff Magnum · 10-18-2009, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Dotpattern

"Vertical bars for widescreen movies"?? You should have your "guru" title revoked!

LOL!! Yeah, i got my directions confused there. Personally, i think i just like the look of the wider aspect ratios that horizontal bars allow you to experience at home. The other aspect rations just seem a little "flat" after watching something like 2001: ASO. It all depends on the material though.

wallendo · 10-18-2009, 09:22 PM

[rant] One of my pet peeves is the term "full screen". It is used to mean several different things, and should therefore be avoided. To people of my generation it represents either a 4:3 image or a movie that has been "modified to fit your screen". Unfortunately, a lot of posters on this board use the term to describe a 16:9 image that lights up every single one of their lovely pixels on their flat screen. [/rant]

iori · 10-18-2009, 09:25 PM

I like black bars, I don't like it when they are filled with logos and designs.

KubrickFan · 10-19-2009, 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by wallendo

[rant] One of my pet peeves is the term "full screen". It is used to mean several different things, and should therefore be avoided. To people of my generation it represents either a 4:3 image or a movie that has been "modified to fit your screen". Unfortunately, a lot of posters on this board use the term to describe a 16:9 image that lights up every single one of their lovely pixels on their flat screen. [/rant]

Well, that's the trouble with such a generic phrase. Most people are used to use it for movies that are in the 1.33:1 ratio, but with Blu-ray it can also be used for 1.78:1. It's only confusing to use the term, because you don't know whether somebody is talking about the first or the second. I'd rather have that they just use the aspect ratios. It might be hard to find out the difference, but once you know it's a lot less confusing than this is.

SpaceDog · 10-19-2009, 02:02 PM

I did try the DisneyView feature on Snow White as so many people had talked about it. I didn't really care for it, but I'm glad it's an option for people who do.

Since Blu-Ray should be OAR as a standard, and reasonably would expect a 16x9 TV as a standard, it'd be cool if they created bonus features that could play within the black area if elected.
Or even shift the film left or right and have a bonus feature running side by side.

P@t_Mtl · 10-19-2009, 02:37 PM

That is what I enjoy so much with BD the OAR of the movie, seeing it as it was filmed, without any cropping of any sort.

MrEggMan · 10-19-2009, 07:49 PM

DisneyView is really distracting. Personally, I'd prefer to see them leave it black or fill with a very faint pattern, not some big elaborate image.

sfmarine · 10-19-2009, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by blugojira

to those with problems

turn off the lights!

Yup! Makes it a lot less noticeable.

seeweda · 11-18-2009, 08:45 PM

Now we just need someone to invent and Autmatic Aspect Ratio TV set. Where the TV itself changes it's size to the Aspect Ratio of whatever you are watching so no black bars appear at all.

It shouldn't be too hard some hydraulics and an expandable/collapsable enclosure. They already have flexible LCD screens that could roll and unroll as the TV resizes.

BillieCassin · 11-18-2009, 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blugojira

i find black bars unnoticeable when watching movies
does everyone have add or somthing?

Actually it wouldn't be ADD but OCD.

Deciazulado · 11-19-2009, 02:47 AM

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Originally Posted by steve_dave

Opening credits are 1.37:1 proper to retain the correct framing on televisions with overscan. However, after the credits, the film shifts AR slightly to 1.33:1.

Casablanca and The Adventures of Robin Hood have the same effect. Its not a big deal. The difference between 1.37 and 1.33 is about the same as 1.85 and 1.78.

Nope, Warner's Academy BDs are in the proper 1.37

JTStarkiller · 11-19-2009, 04:11 PM

With the emergence of HDTVs, is 4:3 still considered fullscreen?

KubrickFan · 11-19-2009, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by JTStarkiller

With the emergence of HDTVs, is 4:3 still considered fullscreen?

That's why the term shouldn't be used anymore, it would just create more confusion.

Rinzler · 11-19-2009, 07:03 PM

I wonder why we are still posting in this thread, when the ? has been answered, lets make an Aspect Ratio thread, and let this thread drop......

dandybud · 08-02-2012, 01:24 PM

I started watching this movie yesterday and I thought it was faulty so I stopped playing it. It's good to know this is what it's supposed to look like.

Deciazulado · 08-02-2012, 01:42 PM

There are 3 basic shapes of sound movies:

A) Academy (1.37 wide) (pre mid-fifties movies)
B) Standard Flat Widescreen (1.66-1.85 wide)
C) Anamorphic "Scope"/70mm Widescreen (2.00-2.75 wide)

HDTV 16:9 widescreen displays are 1.78 wide.

Movies of shape "B" will fill your screen

Movies of shapes "A" and "C" will not.

On a theater the image is supposed to get wider and widest.

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08-02-2012, 01:42 PM	#60
Deciazulado Site Manager Top contributor Member since:Aug 2006 Location:USiberia Home Theater Gallery:6 4K collection:1161 Blu-ray collection:7056 DVD collection:4063	There are 3 basic shapes of sound movies: A) Academy (1.37 wide) (pre mid-fifties movies) B) Standard Flat Widescreen (1.66-1.85 wide) C) Anamorphic "Scope"/70mm Widescreen (2.00-2.75 wide) HDTV 16:9 widescreen displays are 1.78 wide. Movies of shape "B" will fill your screen Movies of shapes "A" and "C" will not. On a theater the image is supposed to get wider and widest. \| v \| v

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10-18-2009, 02:51 PM	#41
tilapiah6 Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jun 2008 Location:South Carolina Home Theater Gallery:40 Blu-ray collection:284 Trading Score:36	When adopting Blu-ray technology, you're also adopting only getting original aspect ratios. There is no such thing as 'full screen', or 'wide screen' when watching Blu-rays; only the original aspect ratios. Unfortunately, directors have different visions of what those ratios should be. It also depends on the time and place that the movie was made. Pressing 'zoom' on the TV only drops the resolution and cuts off part of the picture. Never do that!

10-18-2009, 03:58 PM	#44
Atreyu Blu-ray Knight Member since:Dec 2008 Location:North Carolina 4K collection:370 Blu-ray collection:1880 DVD collection:619 Digital collection:1 Blu-ray reviews: 299 Trading Score:4	I love watching films in their original aspect ratio. That's why I got a laserdisc player when they were popular because a lot of lasers were coming out widescreen, and I read somewhere the first widescreen laserdisc was done in Japan and since Japan also has the NTSC system they were compatable with the US and that's how widescreen or letterbox started to become popular. And once I get immersed in a movie I don't even notice the bars, whether they are on the top and bottom or the sides.

10-18-2009, 09:22 PM	#46
wallendo Power Member Member since:Feb 2008 Location:Southeastern NC 4K collection:100 Blu-ray collection:1027 DVD collection:7 MA collection:3 iTunes collection:1 Blu-ray reviews:4	[rant] One of my pet peeves is the term "full screen". It is used to mean several different things, and should therefore be avoided. To people of my generation it represents either a 4:3 image or a movie that has been "modified to fit your screen". Unfortunately, a lot of posters on this board use the term to describe a 16:9 image that lights up every single one of their lovely pixels on their flat screen. [/rant]

10-18-2009, 09:25 PM	#47
iori Power Member Member since:Apr 2009 Trading Score:2	I like black bars, I don't like it when they are filled with logos and designs.

10-19-2009, 02:02 PM	#49
SpaceDog Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jun 2007 Location:Raleigh, NC Blu-ray collection:116	I did try the DisneyView feature on Snow White as so many people had talked about it. I didn't really care for it, but I'm glad it's an option for people who do. Since Blu-Ray should be OAR as a standard, and reasonably would expect a 16x9 TV as a standard, it'd be cool if they created bonus features that could play within the black area if elected. Or even shift the film left or right and have a bonus feature running side by side.

10-19-2009, 02:37 PM	#50
P@t_Mtl Blu-ray Duke Member since:Sep 2008 Location:Montreal Home Theater Gallery:4 Blu-ray collection:452 DVD collection:513 Trading Score:3	That is what I enjoy so much with BD the OAR of the movie, seeing it as it was filmed, without any cropping of any sort.

10-19-2009, 07:49 PM	#51
MrEggMan Active Member Member since:Feb 2008	DisneyView is really distracting. Personally, I'd prefer to see them leave it black or fill with a very faint pattern, not some big elaborate image.

11-18-2009, 08:45 PM	#53
seeweda Special Member Member since:Jun 2009 Blu-ray collection:302 Trading Score:6	Now we just need someone to invent and Autmatic Aspect Ratio TV set. Where the TV itself changes it's size to the Aspect Ratio of whatever you are watching so no black bars appear at all. It shouldn't be too hard some hydraulics and an expandable/collapsable enclosure. They already have flexible LCD screens that could roll and unroll as the TV resizes.

11-19-2009, 04:11 PM	#56
JTStarkiller Power Member Member since:Aug 2007 Location:Austin, TX DVD collection:69 Trading Score:17	With the emergence of HDTVs, is 4:3 still considered fullscreen?

11-19-2009, 07:03 PM	#58
Rinzler Blu-ray Guru Top contributor Member since:Sep 2009 4K collection:26 Blu-ray collection:919 DVD collection:142 Trading Score:1	I wonder why we are still posting in this thread, when the ? has been answered, lets make an Aspect Ratio thread, and let this thread drop......

08-02-2012, 01:24 PM	#59
dandybud Member Top contributor Member since:Jun 2011 Blu-ray collection:194	I started watching this movie yesterday and I thought it was faulty so I stopped playing it. It's good to know this is what it's supposed to look like.

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