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Old 10-03-2007, 02:53 PM   #41
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Anyone else find it interesting that even the non-native english speaking BD supporters from places like the pacific rim can communicate better in english than native english speaking HD-DVD fanboi trolls?

Just an interesting observation.
thank you, thank you, thank you!!!
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Old 10-03-2007, 04:03 PM   #42
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Now now now. Just because someone is new, let's not jump to conclusions. Just because someone says some crap that doesn't make sense and is negative about BD, that doesn't mean they're a troll. At least that is what I was told on this forum a few days ago.
Thats what I was thinking
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Old 10-03-2007, 04:31 PM   #43
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That's pretty nice, Hitachi usually has the coolest prototypes. They're a great company with amazing Blu-ray breakthroughs.
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Old 10-03-2007, 04:43 PM   #44
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Anyone else find it interesting that even the non-native english speaking BD supporters from places like the pacific rim can communicate better in english than native english speaking HD-DVD fanboi trolls?

Just an interesting observation.
Well, in their defense... it has to be hard to talk with all that FUD in their mouths.
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Old 10-03-2007, 04:53 PM   #45
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The only way your "friend" could afford that type of internet connection to his home would be if his name was Bill Gates.
Or he got FIOS: http://www22.verizon.com/content/consumerfios/
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Old 10-03-2007, 05:00 PM   #46
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that is what i understand for 200GB version. so, this version will requires modified optic? or firmware upgrade?
Different mechanical actuators/servos, along with firmware. In addition to supporting the bigger logical disc structure, the drive will have to most likely apply some kind of filtering algorithm in order to boost the weakened signal you get from transmitting through multiple layers. A more powerful laser might even be needed to read the deeper layers, and wouldn't really surprise me. This is also why firmware upgrades for TL51 on HD DVD is so unrealistic.
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Old 10-03-2007, 05:01 PM   #47
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAaaahahaha...... HAHAHAHAHAHAhahahahahaha.... oh man... do you know how much that type of connection costs? obviously not or you wouldn't have lied so blatantly. The only way your "friend" could afford that type of internet connection to his home would be if his name was Bill Gates.
Not to feed the troll, but it is possible that his friend has 15mbps at his house. I have the following fiber service at my business which is 30mbps up/down and I pay $109 month. These guys residential service is probably less than what you're paying for your Comcast cable at home.

http://www.mstar.net/offerings/fastestnet-chart.php

Of course he's just spreading thick layers of FUD around if he's saying the $hit he's saying. Comical indeed
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Old 10-03-2007, 05:03 PM   #48
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Different mechanical actuators/servos, along with firmware. In addition to supporting the bigger logical disc structure, the drive will have to most likely apply some kind of filtering algorithm in order to boost the weakened signal you get from transmitting through multiple layers. A more powerful laser might even be needed to read the deeper layers, and wouldn't really surprise me. This is also why firmware upgrades for TL51 on HD DVD is so unrealistic.
thank you for the explanation. that is what i actually think too: the second layer is still readable, but I doubt the third layer will be. HD-VMD must have used strong red-optic....
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Yeah, I highly doubt the current systems will read anything but the 50 GB discs. These discs are great if they are read/write. Computer users will be all over them.
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The whole thing with TL51 is science fiction. There will be no such thing ever.

While BD 100 is live already and we are looking forward for BD 200
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Old 10-03-2007, 11:27 PM   #51
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Ok, back to the topic at hand. This player... http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/03/h...ay-disc-drive/
LG-Hitachi was showing a modified current drive at CES in January (and touting a 4K video format as a possible use).

IIRC, it was actually playing and hooked up to a scope to prove to the engineers it was actually working.

AFAIK this is all dealing only with recordables. There are no prototype multi-layer replication plans, are there?

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Old 10-04-2007, 12:01 AM   #52
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The 200GB disc is 6 layers not 8. It was accomplish by making each layer 33GB.


I took this from a post on teh article.


Yeah I only have a burner because I picked one up at a discount when our company purchased a bunch in bulk.

Now that you can buy dvd-dl disks for around .80 a piece even the $6.50 25 GB BD-R's aren't worth it for personal backup. Though I have found that with a lot of trimming your can burn a HD football game on one 25GB disk.

Our company only uses the 50GB BD-R's. We buy in bulk so get a little discount. People laugh at the expense but they don't realize that we're actually saving. We're required to backup our data once a month on non-magnetic media. There's about 2TB's worth and it used to take about a little over a week of 1 guy swapping out DL disks constantly. Whoever was doing the backup was useless for the whole week and it drove them crazy ( it was rotated ). Now that we use the 50GB Blu-ray the guy can at least get other stuff done. So when you add up money saved from all the lost hours ( about $18,000 ) the price of the 50GB disks doesn't look too bad.

Personally I can't wait till these 100GB disks come out.

Oh btw. when we bought the drives. They only supported 25GB and we firmware updated them to 50GB so I don't see why we couldn't firwmare update them to 100GB. From what I remember the technical support people said that the hardware was compatible to 200GB using the 25GB per layer specs.

I guess it is possible to have FW for our player? Maybe.

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Old 10-09-2007, 05:37 PM   #53
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Personally I can't wait till these 100GB disks come out.
Do you know when will this be available? I cant wait too!
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