Jurassic Park Collection 4K UHD (1993-2015)

[trekky76]

Originally Posted by samuelkhan999

Just received the UK/EU 4k disc. MaxCLL/MaxFall is 1000/96. TLW and JP3 data matches the UK/EU discs.

Just started JP1 from the Nordic/EU release and interesting how the mastering metadata is so off compared to the US release. Given how many displays go after the mastering display luminance, this could look quite different across the ocean.
Otherwise I'm impressed with the clarity of this remaster. The CGI is dated a.f. but the rest looks very nice.

[samuelkhan999]

Originally Posted by iamsometal

Finally watched The Lost World steelbook last night and had a bad pixelization and freeze right at the beginning, where the mom screams and it transitions to Ian yawning in front of the sign in the subway. Anyone else have this occur? Playback was on the Panasonic UB-420. I was able to stop and resume at the same spot then the disc played without issue for the remainder.

Also, what an underwhelming transfer. JP1 is an absolute wealth of rich detail and color, especially when compared to TLW. I realize a lot of the soft shots are baked in to the original cinematography, but man did it just feel like a slog getting through this one.

Originally Posted by PeterTHX

HDR10. DV is also HDR.


It's a glitch, one that doesn't even show up on a lot of people's displays. A "massive error" is something like encoding an entire movie in lossy DTS-HR instead of DTS-MA, which Universal still hasn't fixed on a couple of their 4K titles.

Look, I'm not saying it's fine but it's not something that renders the movie unplayable or occurs throughout. It glitches then it's gone. Irritating? Yes. A showstopper? No.

The glitch wasn't there when I played DV. When in played in standard HDR10, it was there. For me, the preferred way to play is DV. That why I offloaded my JP and JW 4k steelbooks. If people kick a stink about this, I feel Universal will just post the standard HDR 4k disc and call it a day.

Iamsomeral has just mentioned that he's noticed another glitch in TLW. He's using the UB420. I noticed the glitch on my UB820. It's would be nice finding out if the glitch is there in HDR10/?DV on non-Panasonic 4k players.

[samuelkhan999]

Originally Posted by spiltmilk

Thanks, though I'm not sure how this relates to the Jurassic Park discs in question.

But what has been confirmed so far is that the encoding problems without DV (on JPIII) are the same on all discs, and that the Nordic discs are likely exactly the same as the US discs.

The included language tracks are usually a giveaway if the disc content is the same for all regions even though the print on the discs may vary, so that's easy to check by those that have the discs in hand.

You were asking question regarding if there is a different encode for the US/NA and elsewhere. I used 1917 as an example (a Universal/DW release in NA/elsewhere and Uni/eOne/DW release in target markets). The encode is the same. There will be bitrate differences which is minimal. The languages will be different in every market.

For the UK JP 4k DV/DA discs, we have English Atmos, German Atmos, French, Italian and Spanish. It will be different for Eastern Europe and Scandinavia. The US disc or JP comes with English Atmos, French and Spanish.

[trekky76]

Originally Posted by samuelkhan999

For the UK JP 4k DV/DA discs, we have English Atmos, German Atmos, French, Italian and Spanish. It will be different for Eastern Europe and Scandinavia. The US disc or JP comes with English Atmos, French and Spanish.

In fact, the Nordic release is the same as the UK one as far as language tracks concerned. Still curious why our discs come with the SDS label.

[nico87]

Another miracle, Steelbook delivered in perfect condition despite the minimal cardboard Amazon package. That's three in a row with no damage, some people here really are unlucky.

Glanced through the discs, and I'll add to the litany already expressed here, JP & LW look very nice, definitely okay if it's the last version of Jurassic Park we ever get.

JPIII not as nice, and the glitch is there on HDR10. (UK Steel)

[Geoff D]

Got mine too, all intact. Gonna start with Lost World to see what those fookin nasty-ass black levels look like

Edit: yep, still there, for ****'s sake

[Piriven]

Originally Posted by iamsometal

Finally watched The Lost World steelbook last night and had a bad pixelization and freeze right at the beginning, where the mom screams and it transitions to Ian yawning in front of the sign in the subway. Anyone else have this occur? Playback was on the Panasonic UB-420. I was able to stop and resume at the same spot then the disc played without issue for the remainder.

Also, what an underwhelming transfer. JP1 is an absolute wealth of rich detail and color, especially when compared to TLW. I realize a lot of the soft shots are baked in to the original cinematography, but man did it just feel like a slog getting through this one.

Haven’t had a chance to test mine yet. I’ve got a UB820 and I’ll be fudding annoyed if that’s baked into the disc. Right on one of the best cuts in movie history

With this, plus the reports around TLW’s extra DNR in certain scenes I’m wondering if the earlier disc might be the better presentation…

[Symus35]

About JP3 on French steelbook : the glitch is here. in HDR10 ( cant test DV, shame)

About TLW, no glitch on the yawn cut ( altough, its right on a chapter change. which could explain the glitch on some players)

we'll definitely have to inform Universal about JP3 glitch. damn it.

[spiltmilk]

Originally Posted by samuelkhan999

You were asking question regarding if there is a different encode for the US/NA and elsewhere. I used 1917 as an example (a Universal/DW release in NA/elsewhere and Uni/eOne/DW release in target markets). The encode is the same. There will be bitrate differences which is minimal. The languages will be different in every market.

For the UK JP 4k DV/DA discs, we have English Atmos, German Atmos, French, Italian and Spanish. It will be different for Eastern Europe and Scandinavia. The US disc or JP comes with English Atmos, French and Spanish.

I wasn’t asking about Universal discs in general but whether there are any differences regarding languages and encoding between the different countries that sell this set. What you just wrote regarding the different regions doesn’t seem right since it was just reported by trekkie76 that the Nordic/Scandinavian discs are the same as the UK discs (apart from the disc art).

If all discs are the same when it comes to encoding and languages, that’s valuable information since you could then just choose the cheapest option. And if it sells out in one country you could buy it from another country.

Like I said before the subtitles are usually the easiest way to find out if there is more than one version of the discs. If there (for example) are Scandinavian subs on the UK or US discs, they are probably all the same. Hopefully some disc scans can clear up any remaining confusion.

[PonyoBellanote]

So, I don't own any JW or JP at all. Is this set worth 65 euros each? I mean it's at least a space-saving (which I badly need) way to get the two trilogies at least.

[gigan72]

Originally Posted by PonyoBellanote

So, I don't own any JW or JP at all. Is this set worth 65 euros each? I mean it's at least a space-saving (which I badly need) way to get the two trilogies at least.

For the first trilogy I'd say yes, though I was able to get them discounted. All 3 of the Park trilogy are new discs and Jurassic Park especially is improved, none of them are perfect discs but for sure better (though JP3 looks basically the same).

The World films are more debatable; Jurassic World is the only new disc and the earlier HDR10 disc still looks fantastic. If you don't own those at all I'd still recommend them, but it may be noticeably cheaper to get the individuals for World.

[PonyoBellanote]

Originally Posted by gigan72

For the first trilogy I'd say yes, though I was able to get them discounted. All 3 of the Park trilogy are new discs and Jurassic Park especially is improved, none of them are perfect discs but for sure better (though JP3 looks basically the same).

The World films are more debatable; Jurassic World is the only new disc and the earlier HDR10 disc still looks fantastic. If you don't own those at all I'd still recommend them, but it may be noticeably cheaper to get the individuals for World.

I'm more bothered by the price than anything else.

[jerclay]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Got mine too, all intact. Gonna start with Lost World to see what those fookin nasty-ass black levels look like

Edit: yep, still there, for ****'s sake

So I was feeding myself placebo pills then... Given this one has sporadic DNR, not worth the upgrade after all.

[Geoff D]

Finished up JP1 and this is very much an incremental upgrade. The detail is sharper with the mild filtering of the first UHD rolled back, but it's literally nose-to-the-screen type stuff, tiny geometric things in the background. Grain looks the same on both in motion, very finely rendered. Colour's been tweaked as we know, the magenta's been tuned out during the Badlands opening but that's about it in terms of blatant changes. Funny thing is it looks a lot paler there now! There is slightly less pink here and there throughout the rest of the show, this helps the jungle greens look livelier and reds stand out more as a result. Skin tones too can look warmer in certain shots of the new one.

The HDR grade is verr similar between both, just a nice balance between light and dark, with no difference in black levels. Compression's fine but then it was on the first UHD.

They've fixed the stabilisation goofs on Hammond in the caravan and the weird bit with the hidden dissolve to the truly madly dupey looking shot of the lawyer in the jeep talking to Hammond has also been fixed.

So...minor upgrade is minor. They've tidied up a couple of transfer-related goofs from the first UHD and tweaked the colour grade, with an extra tickle of detail on top. Most of what people like or dislike about this transfer was there already, it's just been given a final layer of refinement.

[mpls1981]

Late to the party. I have a Sony UBP-X800M2 and confirmed it's there. Pretty sure we can all just agree it exists on every disk and it's not a player issue.

I watched it twice, it sucks, but its a single frame, blink and you'll miss it issue so not overly upset. It is also JP3 of all movies to have the issue so...

[LMFAObros]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Finished up JP1 and this is very much an incremental upgrade. The detail is sharper with the mild filtering of the first UHD rolled back, but it's literally nose-to-the-screen type stuff, tiny geometric things in the background. Grain looks the same on both in motion, very finely rendered. Colour's been tweaked as we know, the magenta's been tuned out during the Badlands opening but that's about it in terms of blatant changes. Funny thing is it looks a lot paler there now! There is slightly less pink here and there throughout the rest of the show, this helps the jungle greens look livelier and reds stand out more as a result. Skin tones too can look warmer in certain shots of the new one.

The HDR grade is verr similar between both, just a nice balance between light and dark, with no difference in black levels. Compression's fine but then it was on the first UHD.

They've fixed the stabilisation goofs on Hammond in the caravan and the weird bit with the hidden dissolve to the truly madly dupey looking shot of the lawyer in the jeep talking to Hammond has also been fixed.

So...minor upgrade is minor. They've tidied up a couple of transfer-related goofs from the first UHD and tweaked the colour grade, with an extra tickle of detail on top. Most of what people like or dislike about this transfer was there already, it's just been given a final layer of refinement.

Thanks for your review Geoff, I can’t justify it tho for a slight upgrade especially the price and packaging of the steelbooks being a bit of a turn off

[Ben_UK]

So the UK version of JP1 is 69GB just like the US disc, but it has more audio tracks, does that mean that the UK version has taken a hit on the video bitrate?

[samuelkhan999]

Originally Posted by Ben_UK

So the UK version of JP1 is 69GB just like the US disc, but it has more audio tracks, does that mean that the UK version has taken a hit on the video bitrate?

Hi. Could you share the bdinfo? Thanks.

[Ben_UK]

Originally Posted by samuelkhan999

Hi. Could you share the bdinfo? Thanks.

I can try, I think I attempted to use BDInfo a while back and it continuously crashed.

[Piriven]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Got mine too, all intact. Gonna start with Lost World to see what those fookin nasty-ass black levels look like

Edit: yep, still there, for ****'s sake

On balance, would you say the earlier LW disc is better?