Thank you FOX - you saved me a lot of money

[Bigdog]

Originally Posted by blurip

the thing is i really dont care which format gives me HD, as long as i can watch it the way i want to, whether on a computer or whatever the bottom line for me regardless of the attacks is im a little upset that blu ray has taken steps to make it more difficult for me to watch the movies however i chose , and i think you are right these formats will only be a niche,

If you can rip it to your server what is to stop you from throwing it up on a exchange site? Really not many here are going to buy the i want to take up hundreds of gigs of hard drive space to save 3 seconds of time from simply putting the disc into the drive. Not to mention what would stop people from renting them and ripping them and not having to spend but 5 bucks to rent it? Your excuse is weak and wont cut it, you want something these days you buy it, if you want to steal it i don't think you will find many sympathetic for your cause here on a pro blu-ray site!

[reiella]

As an aside, if you think you'll have less hurdles to overcome with a software based DRM solution, you won't .

Consider the efforts you gotta go through to stream music from iTunes to a media server that isn't Apple iTV.

[blurip]

Originally Posted by SS316SRV

That is why we are not on AVS.

Blurip-

I understand that you want to watch movies your way. There is some give&take though. If you want to backup your movies then you have to go DVD and HD DVD. If HD DVD puts protection into their discs, that leaves you with DVD. I know you know that, but if you want HD content you might have to make some sacrifices.

agreed

[KingDeezie]

I didn't even read everyone's response to this topic because quite honestly, it is the most ridiculous excuse for not wanting to purchase something I have ever heard in my life....

The fact that Fox wants to keep their AVC encoded 1080P with 5.1 - 7.1 loseless audio locked up is extremely justified...

Lets just say for a second that you are not a digital thief wanting to rent movies from Blockbuster and then ripping them to your harddrive... What about all of the hundreds of thousands of people who will do that?

Should fox make YOU a special Bluray without BD+ so that you can back the movies up on your harddrive...

Not that its true, but you sound like a TROLL to be quite honest. Consumer friendly? Since when does consumer friendly mean open to abuse and piracy??

Then you start talking about it not playing on some players? Please, that's passive aggresive trolling. We understand that the movie doesn't play on some players, but thats the players fault, not Fox's.

Just because HD-DVD is "consumer friendly" aka, completely easy to rip and never have to purchase, doesn't make it better...

Ask the Dreamcast and Sega what happens when your media is easily ripped, people were throwing those GD-ROMS onto CDS and playing the games flawlessly.

BD+ plus is a step foward for Bluray, and I hope it will entice more studios to offer more support to Bluray because their investment is well protected.

[Blu-Light]

Originally Posted by Jamh

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't BD just added protection used to detect illegal copies (beyond what AACS allows) and modded players?

Of course, this poster is just trying to spread his own style of FUD.

[sakbarzad]

Originally Posted by blurip

I Back up only movies I own! , i back up movies because i like being able to use my computer as a server that is not pirating

you want a server here is a server
http://www.sonystyle.com/webapp/wcs/...52921665231960
now if you want to cheap about it then thats a different story

[spam.curitiba]

Originally Posted by blurip

well i have to admit i had been supporting HD DVD at this point mainly due to price of the hardware, I was waiting for prices of Bluray drives to come down so i can support both formats. right now i use the X BOX 360 drive to play the HD DVD movies on my computer, i have purchased many HD DVDS and i backup the movies i own on my computer and play them from the HDD "i will not buy a disk i cant back up! ", which leads me to this, i was ready to jump in to Blu ray now that the prices have been coming down, but now that FOX is using BD + ( an anti consumer move) imo you want to make these new formats as consumer friendly as you can, not making it more difficult and i cant be supporting a format that i cant backup and that i dont have to worry whether or not my equipment will play back new movies. I really wanted to support Blu Ray but while i was waiting for the prices to come down i did get alot of negitive vibes about Blu Ray but not anything that would have stopped me from supporting them, up until now so once again thank you FOX you saved me alot of money, i buy alot of movies but they wont be Blu Ray's when will they learn its not HD DVD vs BLU RAY, but HD & Blu vs SD DVD

Look it comes down to this.......say you worked your ass off on something and then you mass market it to make money...would you want some ******* to copy what you did illegally?

[JBlacklow]

Originally Posted by blurip

just to clear somethings up i only backup what i own if you go out and rent a disk and copy that, that is wrong, is it being done by some people? i would say yes but i DONT aggree with it,, also i use my computer as a server and i dont backup every disk i own just the ones i like to watch over and over, and believe me if i was not able to backup HD DVD i would not support them either,

You're not allowed to "back up" HD DVDs either!

Simple as that. Your entire complaint is predicated on the fact that you can't do something that is technically illegal. In other words, you're upset because a couple discs from one format isn't allowing you to do something that you shouldn't be doing anyway.

[Amel]

man

I hate trolls

bla bla bla!

[bootman]

Originally Posted by sj001

Very true indeed, but really, how many people actually backup these discs legitimately and not for pirating reasons? Probably very, very few...

You must not have kids!

I used to do this to take DVDs in the SUV I no longer own.

But to do this to protect disks from scratching that has already a great protection barrier is not doing your homework about the format.

However, having a HD movie server does sound like a cool idea.
A HTPC running something like LinuxMCE and reading HD isos (currently only DVDs are supported) sounds very tempting.
Lots of space needed for HD movies though.

[RickD]

blurip,

How much storage do you have? I would imagine you would need a ton to rip all of your movies to a media server.

Rick

[SS316SRV]

Originally Posted by spam.curitiba

Look it comes down to this.......say you worked your ass off on something and then you mass market it to make money...would you want some ******* to copy what you did illegally?

I think you are missing the point. Blurip agrees (apperantly) that stealing is wrong, and that pirating movies is illegal. Blurip just wants to enjoy his movies, his way. He knows that he cannot do that with blu-ray and he is ok with that. Nobdy here is going to convince him to start buying blu-ray. Also, a lot of people missed his other complaint, that the blu-ray hardware is too expensive, not much to counter with there. The prices will be coming down, I just hope that Blurip (I believe it is not blu RIP, but blu rip-on-to-my-computer, at least I hope) takes the leap and starts to enjoy his movies with the best possible picture and audio quality. If blurip thinks that HD DVD's audio is just as good, he should go ask Optimus Prime.

[kaliraver]

Originally Posted by blurip

well if thats what you need to do for someone stating how they feel about something

I didn't say to ban you am just pointing that out, you should behave & respect this forum. You might not be a blu-ray supporter and thats ok with me, but respect this forum that is all, am out.

[The Big Blue]

I'm gonna start a thread....

Thank you Porsche - you saved me a lot of money

[SS316SRV]

Originally Posted by Amel

man

I hate trolls

bla bla bla!

He is not trolling. He has not once called blu-ray stupid. He has yet to insult us. He is merely making a point about his preferences. He hasn't tried to cause trouble, most of you are giving him trouble though. Cool out and listen to the man. Have a dialogue with him, we may all learn something.

[movies3]

im actually surprised hes still posting... with everyone calling him a troll

[ani4ano]

Originally Posted by blurip

well i have to admit i had been supporting HD DVD at this point mainly due to price of the hardware, I was waiting for prices of Bluray drives to come down so i can support both formats. right now i use the X BOX 360 drive to play the HD DVD movies on my computer, i have purchased many HD DVDS and i backup the movies i own on my computer and play them from the HDD "i will not buy a disk i cant back up! ", which leads me to this, i was ready to jump in to Blu ray now that the prices have been coming down, but now that FOX is using BD + ( an anti consumer move) imo you want to make these new formats as consumer friendly as you can, not making it more difficult and i cant be supporting a format that i cant backup and that i dont have to worry whether or not my equipment will play back new movies. I really wanted to support Blu Ray but while i was waiting for the prices to come down i did get alot of negitive vibes about Blu Ray but not anything that would have stopped me from supporting them, up until now so once again thank you FOX you saved me alot of money, i buy alot of movies but they wont be Blu Ray's when will they learn its not HD DVD vs BLU RAY, but HD & Blu vs SD DVD

So why do you have an XBOX 360, you can't "back up" those games can you???

Open your mind

[radagast]

Originally Posted by SS316SRV

Yes, I was wrong and you were correct. The discs have been cracked. But you cannot deny the fact the blu-rays continued protection research has not attracted more support. Ask New Line.

Someone I know saw a supposedly ripped BD on a certain site for download. There were several comments by people amused with the idea of how long it would take to download 50GB. That would take up a lot of space on a hard drive. It isn't worth it. I would rather own the disc and all the liner notes that come with it.

[Banjo]

Originally Posted by SS316SRV

Ask New Line.

It's more to do with region encoding, not piracy. They will not release movies on HD DVD because people in other countries can order them and play them in their HD DVD players while the movies are still playing at the theatres where they resides.

[rucumn]

Originally Posted by blurip

well i have to admit i had been supporting HD DVD at this point mainly due to price of the hardware, I was waiting for prices of Bluray drives to come down so i can support both formats. right now i use the X BOX 360 drive to play the HD DVD movies on my computer, i have purchased many HD DVDS and i backup the movies i own on my computer and play them from the HDD "i will not buy a disk i cant back up! ", which leads me to this, i was ready to jump in to Blu ray now that the prices have been coming down, but now that FOX is using BD + ( an anti consumer move) imo you want to make these new formats as consumer friendly as you can, not making it more difficult and i cant be supporting a format that i cant backup and that i dont have to worry whether or not my equipment will play back new movies. I really wanted to support Blu Ray but while i was waiting for the prices to come down i did get alot of negitive vibes about Blu Ray but not anything that would have stopped me from supporting them, up until now so once again thank you FOX you saved me alot of money, i buy alot of movies but they wont be Blu Ray's when will they learn its not HD DVD vs BLU RAY, but HD & Blu vs SD DVD

Can somebody just ban him from this site? NOW