King Kong (2005) (Ultimate Edition)

[thatguamguy]

Originally Posted by Zillamon51

So are ALL previous extras accounted for? Anything missing?

If you want to be really pedantic, there are two easter eggs which are not officially accounted for, but they are both production diaries not included in their respective packages and thus could be lumped in in the description. Presumably they will be included, as long as somebody involved in the production remembers that they exist.

There is also a production diary which was deliberately unreleased because it was about Howard Shore, who was subsequently fired from the project. It seems like, out of respect for their previous relationship, Jackson didn't release it on any of the discs, and it was pulled (?) from the website. That seems unlikely to be included here.

EDIT: Oh, I guess the 3-disc also included the scripts for both this version and Jackson's attempt to get the film made in 1996. I don't see those on the list here. And I suppose one could argue that Jackson's recreation of the 1933 spider-pit sequence *should* be included with this film (it annoys me that it's not there), but it gets included with the original instead.

[willbfree]

Originally Posted by thatguamguy

If you want to be really pedantic, there are two easter eggs which are not officially accounted for, but they are both production diaries not included in their respective packages and thus could be lumped in in the description. Presumably they will be included, as long as somebody involved in the production remembers that they exist.

Is one of them the episode with Bryan Singer?

[thatguamguy]

Originally Posted by willbfree

Is one of them the episode with Bryan Singer?

I remember that being said at one point, but I don't remember whether it was accurate. dvdcompare says that the Singer one was included on the Production Diaries DVD, #53. Another site says that the Missing one (included on the 3-disc set as an Easter Egg) is #59. (Which would make it a Post-Production Diary, by the numbers listed on dvdcompare. So I'm not sure what's up there.)

My guess would be that the "missing Bryan Singer diary" that has been referenced is actually the 'Superman Lives' production diary which features Peter Jackson, rather than the King Kong diary which features Bryan Singer. (Having said that, I would also list that alongside the spider pit recreation as a feature which should be a bonus with this movie.)

[Johnzilla2179]

Originally Posted by Rich1631

No 4K? Come on, man! We got a new format and there is like 0 support!

I don't mean to be overly snarky, but why is this terribly surprising? 4K hasn't exactly proven itself as a format just yet. Hell, regular Blu-ray still has rather healthy competition with standard old DVD, and I couldn't tell you how many people I know that can't tell the difference between the two, or care for that matter. Also, let's not forget that this is Universal -- given their catalogue tendencies I'm sure they aren't too keen on having to create a new master for an unproven format. It also shouldn't come as a surprise if the included movie disc is exactly the same as the one currently on the market, with the "new" disc just being created for the special features. And none of this even takes into account the shift to digital.

It may not seem like it around here, but I'd wager that most people are still fine with a single DVD copy these days of a given film. Ten years into the lifespan of DVD it had pretty much completely supplanted VHS; that doesn't look to be happening any time soon with Blu-ray (just look at this combo pack as an example). Personally, I'm a tad bewildered that a new format was even launched when it's predecessor has yet to replace the thing that came before IT.

But that's just me. Other perspectives will likely differ.

[StingingVelvet]

Originally Posted by spidervenom1992

I don't mean to be overly snarky, but why is this terribly surprising? 4K hasn't exactly proven itself as a format just yet. Hell, regular Blu-ray still has rather healthy competition with standard old DVD, and I couldn't tell you how many people I know that can't tell the difference between the two, or care for that matter. Also, let's not forget that this is Universal -- given their catalogue tendencies I'm sure they aren't too keen on having to create a new master for an unproven format. It also shouldn't come as a surprise if the included movie disc is exactly the same as the one currently on the market, with the "new" disc just being created for the special features. And none of this even takes into account the shift to digital.

It may not seem like it around here, but I'd wager that most people are still fine with a single DVD copy these days of a given film. Ten years into the lifespan of DVD it had pretty much completely supplanted VHS; that doesn't look to be happening any time soon with Blu-ray (just look at this combo pack as an example). Personally, I'm a tad bewildered that a new format was even launched when it's predecessor has yet to replace the thing that came before IT.

But that's just me. Other perspectives will likely differ.

UHD is actually selling really well for this early in its life-cycle, the studios are really surprised and pleased. Support for the format has been pretty solid and robust, some people just seem to be super impatient about EVERYTHING getting a UHD release too, which isn't going to happen for a long time, if ever.

[Johnzilla2179]

Originally Posted by StingingVelvet

UHD is actually selling really well for this early in its life-cycle, the studios are really surprised and pleased. Support for the format has been pretty solid and robust, some people just seem to be super impatient about EVERYTHING getting a UHD release too, which isn't going to happen for a long time, if ever.

Wow, didn't know it was doing that well. I was mainly commenting on the fact that most stores have twice as many DVDs as they do Blus, and even less 4K (obviously). So while I'm more cynical about the prospects going forward, we're more or less in agreement about the expectations of home theater enthusiasts. Do you have any specific sources for how the UHD market is doing? Or is that just information you've gleaned from around here?

[wonkavision]

Here's an interesting article on UHD from October 2016.
http://hometheaterreview.com/how-to-...uccess-so-far/

[RalphoR]

Sounds like a great set for those who haven't jumped on the bd version yet or haven't bought the movie at all. I'll pass on this version but still am hopeful for an eventual 4k uhd release. Looks to me they have a glutton of old discs they want moved before a 4k set is even remotely going to be considered.

[Falaskan]

Movie cash?


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[MifuneFan]

Originally Posted by Falaskan

Movie cash?


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Probably not. New movie is from Warner.

[nycomet]

Is this an extended edition or will this new King Kong release simply have bonus features?

I absolutely love Peter Jackson's King Kong, but it's long enough as is.

I would easily snap this up if it was a 3D conversion, but since that will never happen I'll most likely pass.

[warrian]

Originally Posted by nycomet

Is this an extended edition or will this new King Kong release simply have bonus features?

I absolutely love Peter Jackson's King Kong, but it's long enough as is.

It's pretty clear from the specs that it contains both versions.

I agree that King Kong 2005 is long enough as it is, but the things I would cut out are in both versions. The swamp sequence in the extended cut is really indispensable to me. As a result, I choose that version every time.

[MifuneFan]

[Cook]

"New bonus disc..."

**** off, Universal. That bonus content was on the dvd release of the extended edition of king kong.

Dont get me wrong. Ill buy this for a good price, but I dont like them advertising the bonus disc like its something new. Its just the same old featyres on a blu-ray disc.

[MifuneFan]

I'm glad it's on a BD at least. I wish Warner would get a clue and put all those LOTR EE appendices on a BD or two, rather than all those DVD's

[Cook]

Originally Posted by MifuneFan

I'm glad it's on a BD at least. I wish Warner would get a clue and put all those LOTR EE appendices on a BD or two, rather than all those DVD's

Yeah just to have those LOTR docs in AVC on 3 blurays would be nice. But WB are apparently treating LOTR with the cold shoulder now. Idk if you heard, but supposedly Jackson wanted money to do new documentaries and new special features and to include new deleted material for the new LOTR release, but WB refused to pay for it and they wouldnt allow him to access the archived material. Instead they released the same stuff weve had for years and bundled it with that stupid shelf and slapped an absurd price on it. Considering that, I doubt they will spend the money to those put the old special features on blu-ray. Its amazing how quickly they forget what Jackson and LOTR did for them.

[Deathbymonkeys]

Originally Posted by Cook

Yeah just to have those LOTR docs in AVC on 3 blurays would be nice. But WB are apparently treating LOTR with the cold shoulder now. Idk if you heard, but supposedly Jackson wanted money to do new documentaries and new special features and to include new deleted material for the new LOTR release, but WB refused to pay for it and they wouldnt allow him to access the archived material. Instead they released the same stuff weve had for years and bundled it with that stupid shelf and slapped an absurd price on it. Considering that, I doubt they will spend the money to those put the old special features on blu-ray. Its amazing how quickly they forget what Jackson and LOTR did for them.

Yeah I don't even care if they were in high def honestly at all. I just would like them on blurays.

[StingingVelvet]

Originally Posted by Deathbymonkeys

Yeah I don't even care if they were in high def honestly at all. I just would like them on blurays.

SD material usually looks worse on BD than on DVD, in my experience.

[IndyMLVC]

Originally Posted by StingingVelvet

SD material usually looks worse on BD than on DVD, in my experience.

It depends. I feel like they sometimes just rip the DVD version and re-encode instead of going back to whatever master was delivered.

[Trekkie313]

Originally Posted by MifuneFan

I'm glad it's on a BD at least. I wish Warner would get a clue and put all those LOTR EE appendices on a BD or two, rather than all those DVD's

Those Blade Runner documentaries in HD would be nice too Warner!