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Old 03-17-2008, 04:17 PM   #81
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Like I have said -- I am a movie fan. And not every movie I like is available on Blu.

Assassination of Jesse James was one of the best movies of 2007 (as was Michael Clayton). Given the posts you have made -- and your fanboi'ness -- it does not surprise me that you would skip such a thoughtful, deep, compelling and artistically significant film like Jesse James.

I am sure Ratatouille is probably more your style (and it has an uncompressed PCM) ... enjoy.
See what happens when you assume... you make an ass out of yourself.

Both are my style actually but, unlike you, I DO NOT COMPROMISE MY QUALITY STANDARDS!

P.S. I would buy Death and the Maiden in an instant on Blu-Ray (with lossless audio of course)... even though 95% of the movie takes place between 4 walls and there are no special effects to speak of. I actually saw that movie in the theaters as well
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Old 03-17-2008, 04:20 PM   #82
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See what happens when you assume... you make an ass out of yourself.

Both are my style actually but, unlike you, I DO NOT COMPROMISE MY QUALITY STANDARDS!

P.S. I would buy Death and the Maiden in an instant on Blu-Ray (with lossless audio of course)... even though 95% of the movie takes place between 4 walls and there are no special effects to speak of. I actually saw that movie in the theaters as well


Not worth my time.

Back on topic -- DTS-MA will be a welcome addition to my PS3. Looking forward to it.

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Old 03-17-2008, 04:23 PM   #83
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That he would choose Ratatouille as the foundation for a put-down says all that one need know.
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Old 03-17-2008, 04:25 PM   #84
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That he would choose Ratatouille as the foundation for a put-down says all that one need know.
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Old 03-17-2008, 04:26 PM   #85
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Come on guys Let's play nice.

I think Unreal is just tired of the job "a minima" done by some publishers on their releases. Catalog is one thing (as seen by Fox, with Mpeg2 on BD25, /shrug), even if I don't like it, but new releases of films longer than 2h on BD25, with only DD, it's just unbelievable...

The end of the dual HD DVD + BR encode will, hopefully, put an end to this kind of things (where the same encode used leads to this).

On BR, and given that the PS3 (by far the most largely present player) can decode it, it seemed to me that TrueHD should have been the HD standard (with a DD mandatory track for folks like me who have older receivers), and DTS-HD and HD-MA being on "deluxe" editions ...
But some editors push PCM, while others push HD-MA. /shrug.

Now with the PS3 being (soon ?) able to decode HD-MA, maybe we will find either PCM or HDMA on -all- releases ?
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Old 03-17-2008, 04:27 PM   #86
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People need to keep their movie tastes to themselves. Whether a movie is universally regarded as a great movie does not make it a must own. There are plenty of best pictures that I have seen once and need never see it again. Some people like to be entertained, others depressed, others to laugh, others to cry. We all watch movies for different reasons. There is not one movie that everyone will say is great. Please find one. It doesn't exist.
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Old 03-17-2008, 04:33 PM   #87
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Come on guys Let's play nice.

I think Unreal is just tired of the job "a minima" done by some publishers on their releases.
EXACTLY!

Even though dissapointing, I can accept the lack of extras on a Blu-Ray release (documentaries, deleted scenes, commentaries etc...) but I will NEVER accept anything but PRISTINE video and audio quality from a Blu-Ray... and YES, that includes a lossless soundtrack on ALL of my purchases.

Even if a release is a clear prelude to a double dip edition
if the vanilla release includes pristine audio and video and I care for the movie sufficiently... it will probably get a purchase from me.

Example: "I Robot" --> http://bluray.highdefdigest.com/613/irobot.html

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Old 03-17-2008, 04:38 PM   #88
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Come on guys Let's play nice.

On BR, and given that the PS3 (by far the most largely present player) can decode it, it seemed to me that TrueHD should have been the HD standard (with a DD mandatory track for folks like me who have older receivers), and DTS-HD and HD-MA being on "deluxe" editions ...
But some editors push PCM, while others push HD-MA. /shrug.

Now with the PS3 being (soon ?) able to decode HD-MA, maybe we will find either PCM or HDMA on -all- releases ?
One nice thing about DD+ (and TrueHD) is that it can be transcoded in-player to DTS (1.5mbs) encode -- this is a nice feature for those with older HMDI-less receivers (since most can decode DTS bit-streamed over toslink). And allows higher-res audio than plain DD.

All the second-gen HD DVD players can do this, as can the 360 add-on (third-gen transcode to DD -- which is why they should be avoided if you have an older receiver). As am not sure about BR players.
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People need to keep their movie tastes to themselves. Whether a movie is universally regarded as a great movie does not make it a must own. There are plenty of best pictures that I have seen once and need never see it again. Some people like to be entertained, others depressed, others to laugh, others to cry. We all watch movies for different reasons. There is not one movie that everyone will say is great. Please find one. It doesn't exist.
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Any one can explain it to me that why my ps3 can play kingdom of heaven(which supplies DTS-HD MA audio only)? My receiver didn't decode DTS-HD MA either, it is old onkyo 5 series.
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Any one can explain it to me that why my ps3 can play kingdom of heaven(which supplies DTS-HD MA audio only)? My receiver didn't decode DTS-HD MA either, it is old onkyo 5 series.
DTS-MA is backwards compatible to DTS. I.e., if you can't decode MA -- the player will decode a "core" track that is basically just regular DTS.
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Any one can explain it to me that why my ps3 can play kingdom of heaven(which supplies DTS-HD MA audio only)? My receiver didn't decode DTS-HD MA either, it is old onkyo 5 series.
It decodes the core DTS soundtrack.
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Old 03-17-2008, 04:51 PM   #93
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Any one can explain it to me that why my ps3 can play kingdom of heaven(which supplies DTS-HD MA audio only)? My receiver didn't decode DTS-HD MA either, it is old onkyo 5 series.
dts-ma contains a legacy dts track inside it, running at 1.5 Mbps.

If your equipment doesn't support dts-ma then the core dts track is extracted instead.
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Just a general question since I'm stupid when it comes to HD audio.

My receiver won't do anything with HDMI audio other than passthrough. It does have analog 7.1 inputs however.

While I know the PS3 can't utilize them, I was thinking about picking up a 2.0 player that does analog 7.1 output. What is the audio capacity for analog 7.1 connections?

Depending on the answer, I may just opt for a new receiver when this patch is released instead.
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Old 03-17-2008, 05:35 PM   #95
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Just a general question since I'm stupid when it comes to HD audio.

My receiver won't do anything with HDMI audio other than passthrough. It does have analog 7.1 inputs however.

While I know the PS3 can't utilize them, I was thinking about picking up a 2.0 player that does analog 7.1 output. What is the audio capacity for analog 7.1 connections?

Depending on the answer, I may just opt for a new receiver when this patch is released instead.
As long as the player decodes the codecs -- a receiver and player both with 7.1 analog outs/ins will work fine (and you will get the full resolution). Make sure that DACs on the player are high quality, since you will be doing a digital-to-analog conversion.
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Old 03-17-2008, 05:37 PM   #96
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As long as the player decodes the codecs -- a receiver and player both with 7.1 analog outs/ins will work fine (and you will get the full resolution). Make sure that DACs on the player are high quality, since you will be doing a digital-to-analog conversion.
Can you elaborate on "full resolution" here? Are we talking lossless?

The receiver is an Onkyo HTR550. I haven't even begun to look at players... I suppose my ultimate choice will come down to whether a new player is cheaper than a new receiver.
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Actually read this in a fortune cookie last week.

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gimme a break. I've met a handful of people that not only have never heard of star wars, many don't like it. If you don't like fantasy, you don't like it. Same goes for LOTR.
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Thx, I do have the HDMI connected for audio, but until we get this decoding from the PS3, I'm limited with 1.5 core. I do get to enjoy the PCM movies though. So soon enough my DTS-MA movies will get an audio upgrade right?
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gimme a break. I've met a handful of people that not only have never heard of star wars, many don't like it. If you don't like fantasy, you don't like it. Same goes for LOTR.
I was joking.
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