Pioneer To End TV Production, Spin Off DVD Development - Page 5 - Blu-ray Forum

4TA23 · 02-10-2009, 01:08 AM

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Originally Posted by gtmorgan23

i work there part time and usually sell more plasmas to customers and educate them on how much better they look then lcd's

Then I say kudos to you, and I do mean that. I have a BB employee here where I am as well who knows what is up so I am glad to see that. now educate the rest of your employees. I know not all are uneducated but you have to admit alot are, I meant no disrespect to those that know.

wozman · 02-10-2009, 01:25 PM

This is very depressing news to hear,

ON the day of my delivery of my NEW Pioneer Kuro 5020FD.

Now I must say I know that the Warranty should still be applied for about a year with the Manufacturer. I also ended up getting the extended plan from Futureshop (4 years) but my question is, what if something happens after those 4 years, and I need parts to repair something and there is no department @ Pioneer for these issues? I was so excited for this day, Joining the Kuro Family, and now I hear this? that the "Family" is gone.....I dont know what to think, I got 30-days to make up my mind, I guess I could switch to another Manufacturer, but I still stand by that the Pioneer is one of the greatest pictures out there. Should I be worried at all with this news, if I have just purchased the Pioneer, obviously supply demand is going to be hot on these, and its gonna be harder to find them out there.....Allot of people would kill to get there hands on a Kuro, and mine is coming today.....

Sonny · 02-10-2009, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by wozman

This is very depressing news to hear,

ON the day of my delivery of my NEW Pioneer Kuro 5020FD.

Now I must say I know that the Warranty should still be applied for about a year with the Manufacturer. I also ended up getting the extended plan from Futureshop (4 years) but my question is, what if something happens after those 4 years, and I need parts to repair something and there is no department @ Pioneer for these issues? I was so excited for this day, Joining the Kuro Family, and now I hear this? that the "Family" is gone.....I dont know what to think, I got 30-days to make up my mind, I guess I could switch to another Manufacturer, but I still stand by that the Pioneer is one of the greatest pictures out there. Should I be worried at all with this news, if I have just purchased the Pioneer, obviously supply demand is going to be hot on these, and its gonna be harder to find them out there.....Allot of people would kill to get there hands on a Kuro, and mine is coming today.....

You should be just fine. If it's something that bothers you that much, like you said you have 30 days.

The more you watch it, the harder it will be to replace it with something inferior.

JJ · 02-10-2009, 01:57 PM

Is February 18 here yet? Dyin' here.

rragland · 02-10-2009, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by JJxiv1215

Is February 18 here yet? Dyin' here.

What happens on February 18?

JJ · 02-10-2009, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by rragland

What happens on February 18?

[Show spoiler]

rragland · 02-10-2009, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by JJxiv1215

[Show spoiler]

mikenike · 02-10-2009, 03:48 PM

How depressing. If the major TV companies have respect for progression of plasma TVs, they'd help Pioneer out. But with this economy, that's not gonna happen. I was so geared up for the 10G sets, saving up for it and everything. =/ Just hope that after I finish school, there'll be a set that will have better blacks (that much is inevitable) while also looking good at the same time. Panasonic, while very good in technology, does not have the same level of aesthetic superiority as Pioneer.

Lanfear · 02-10-2009, 04:02 PM

I'm glad I got 1 when I did

Hopefully, this will only be temporary? I know it's not likely but one can still hope.

graf1k · 02-10-2009, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Sonny

You should be just fine. If it's something that bothers you that much, like you said you have 30 days.

The more you watch it, the harder it will be to replace it with something inferior.

How right you are. I've been toying with the idea in my head of sending my 5020 back after hearing about Pioneer ending TV production because when it comes to big ticket items, I'm a total fraidy cat but the more and more I watch it, I just know if I returned it and got an LCD, I would be kicking myself for a long, long time. The picture is just insanely good. If I could see the 52XBR6 side by side with it, I'd probably never give it (the Sony) another thought.

Trix · 02-10-2009, 04:20 PM

Here's to hoping I can really trust my salesman to let me know when stock is dangerously low. I convinced myself to buy a 9G Kuro because they were going to be the last all-Pioneer Kuros, but now the thought that they may be the last Kuros period makes it an even better decision!

Now, on to hoping I can nab a Pro-111 for 2500 CAD from an independent retailer...wishful thinking?

Blu As Hell · 02-10-2009, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by JJxiv1215

[Show spoiler]

On the 18th JJ? Too bad...I'll have mine on the 13th. *points finger at JJ and giggles, then runs out the room.*

dobyblue · 02-10-2009, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Trix

Now, on to hoping I can nab a Pro-111 for 2500 CAD from an independent retailer...wishful thinking?

I think that's very much wishful thinking...but if you find one please immediately PM me and let me know so I can get one too.

saprano · 02-10-2009, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by saprano

^^^^ You know whats funny clark K? all these new LCD, and plasma models thats coming out this year with there new tech still doesn't beat the KURO in PQ or blacks.

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Originally Posted by SBrooks1

Which is why I hug my 6020 at least once every day

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Originally Posted by Sonny

I going to start doing the same.

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Originally Posted by saprano

lol, i hope to join in soon.

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Originally Posted by Art Vandelay

I might as well do the same from now on.

Anybody else?

gandley · 02-10-2009, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by dobyblue

Those dynamic contrast ratios being touted mean absolutely nothing at all because they don't specify testing conditions and they don't represent anything that could be possibly considered normal viewing conditions.

Take 100% black signal, measure.
Take 100% white signal, measure.
What's the ratio = dynamic contrast

ANSI contrast will probably show those sets to be closer to 1,800:1, a far cry from what the Kuro's are seeing (almost 15,000:1)

Are you getting ANSI contrast and FULL ON/OFF contrast mixed up?

from ultimate AV mag Kuro review

"i measured an ANSI contrast ratio, using the standard 16 square checkerboard, of 2,600:1. That's not a misprint with an added zero. Amazingly, the black squares on the ANSI pattern ranged from 0.006 to 0.009fLâ€”nearly the same as the full-field black. While you'll never see an ANSI contrast this good in a real room even with the lights off, it's still the most impressive ANSI contrast measurement I've yet measured on a display personally"

I just got the 500A Kuro (UK Model), what a picture!!

lobo81865 · 02-10-2009, 07:23 PM

I would loved to have bought a Kuro, but at the time I was looking I couldn't afford the price. I love my Samsung LCD, but would gladly have chosen the Kuro over it if the price had been anywhere close.

Bolaar · 02-10-2009, 09:34 PM

My 5020 arrives tomorrow...just before

my wife throws me out and I have to find a new place to live.

naturephoto1 · 02-10-2009, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Bolaar

My 5020 arrives tomorrow...just before

my wife throws me out and I have to find a new place to live.

Let us know your reaction and your wife's reaction to the picture quality of the new set. It should be

Rich

dobyblue · 02-10-2009, 10:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gandley

Are you getting ANSI contrast and FULL ON/OFF contrast mixed up?

from ultimate AV mag Kuro review

"i measured an ANSI contrast ratio, using the standard 16 square checkerboard, of 2,600:1. That's not a misprint with an added zero. Amazingly, the black squares on the ANSI pattern ranged from 0.006 to 0.009fLâ€”nearly the same as the full-field black. While you'll never see an ANSI contrast this good in a real room even with the lights off, it's still the most impressive ANSI contrast measurement I've yet measured on a display personally"

I just got the 500A Kuro (UK Model), what a picture!!

I don't think so?

D-Nice's review of the PDP-6020FD: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/attac...4&d=1219014474

Peak - 38,900:1
ON/OFF - 21,300:1
ANSI - 14,600:1

D-Nice's review of the PRO-111FD - http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/attac...6&d=1219375113

Peak - 36,600:1
ON/OFF - 17,800:1
ANSI - 13,833:1

My_Two_Cents · 02-10-2009, 10:49 PM

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02-10-2009, 04:20 PM	#91
Trix Active Member Member since:Nov 2008 Location:Waterloo, ON, Canada Blu-ray collection:114	Here's to hoping I can really trust my salesman to let me know when stock is dangerously low. I convinced myself to buy a 9G Kuro because they were going to be the last all-Pioneer Kuros, but now the thought that they may be the last Kuros period makes it an even better decision! Now, on to hoping I can nab a Pro-111 for 2500 CAD from an independent retailer...wishful thinking? Last edited by Trix; 02-11-2009 at 02:09 AM.

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02-10-2009, 01:25 PM	#82
wozman Special Member Member since:Jan 2008 Location:Ontario, Canada 4K collection:425 Blu-ray collection:740 DVD collection:28 MA collection:44 Digital collection:149 iTunes collection:198 Trading Score:1	This is very depressing news to hear, ON the day of my delivery of my NEW Pioneer Kuro 5020FD. Now I must say I know that the Warranty should still be applied for about a year with the Manufacturer. I also ended up getting the extended plan from Futureshop (4 years) but my question is, what if something happens after those 4 years, and I need parts to repair something and there is no department @ Pioneer for these issues? I was so excited for this day, Joining the Kuro Family, and now I hear this? that the "Family" is gone.....I dont know what to think, I got 30-days to make up my mind, I guess I could switch to another Manufacturer, but I still stand by that the Pioneer is one of the greatest pictures out there. Should I be worried at all with this news, if I have just purchased the Pioneer, obviously supply demand is going to be hot on these, and its gonna be harder to find them out there.....Allot of people would kill to get there hands on a Kuro, and mine is coming today.....

02-10-2009, 01:57 PM	#84
JJ Blu-ray Count Top ranked HT gallery Member since:Jul 2007 Location:Miami, FL Home Theater Gallery:99 4K collection:619 Blu-ray collection:1293 DVD collection:31 Digital collection:5 Blu-ray reviews: 18 Trading Score:203	Is February 18 here yet? Dyin' here.

02-10-2009, 03:48 PM	#88
mikenike Active Member Member since:Nov 2007 Blu-ray collection:206	How depressing. If the major TV companies have respect for progression of plasma TVs, they'd help Pioneer out. But with this economy, that's not gonna happen. I was so geared up for the 10G sets, saving up for it and everything. =/ Just hope that after I finish school, there'll be a set that will have better blacks (that much is inevitable) while also looking good at the same time. Panasonic, while very good in technology, does not have the same level of aesthetic superiority as Pioneer.

02-10-2009, 04:02 PM	#89
Lanfear Active Member Member since:Jan 2009 Location:Long Island, NY Blu-ray collection:96	I'm glad I got 1 when I did Hopefully, this will only be temporary? I know it's not likely but one can still hope.

02-10-2009, 07:23 PM	#96
lobo81865 Blu-ray Guru Member since:Aug 2008 Home Theater Gallery:1 4K collection:562 Blu-ray collection:3659 DVD collection:3337 MA collection:1323 Digital collection:3018 iTunes collection:1551 Prime collection:950 Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:102	I would loved to have bought a Kuro, but at the time I was looking I couldn't afford the price. I love my Samsung LCD, but would gladly have chosen the Kuro over it if the price had been anywhere close.

02-10-2009, 09:34 PM	#97
Bolaar Expert Member Member since:Jan 2007 Location:Munson, OH Blu-ray collection:111 Trading Score:22	My 5020 arrives tomorrow...just before my wife throws me out and I have to find a new place to live.

02-10-2009, 10:49 PM	#100
My_Two_Cents Blu-ray Knight Top contributor Member since:Dec 2007 Location:Wherever I may roam.... Home Theater Gallery:40 4K collection:35 Blu-ray collection:507 DVD collection:19 Blu-ray reviews: 1 Trading Score:4	^^Doby - It says you need to be logged-in to view the pages.

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