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Old 04-02-2024, 01:44 PM   #121
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Surprised no one said the new cover art looks AI-generated yet
Please don't. We already have far too many people stampeding to the "THIS LOOKS LIKE AI!!! IS THIS AI???" conclusion when they see any processed image, none of them knowing what the 'eff their talking about.
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Old 04-02-2024, 01:57 PM   #122
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Why not include a remastered 1080p disc
Not to sound snarky at all, but why are you not interested? Do you not have a 4K TV?
I for one would much rather have the Chinatown BD as back-up to the UHD, especially if made from the remaster.

I've never seen Two Jakes, but I fear that it will be a film I'll watch only once—Chinatown, I already know.

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Old 04-02-2024, 03:25 PM   #123
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Did the Blu-ray not have the original mono? There's a 2.0 mono track on the disc AFAIK.
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Old 04-02-2024, 03:39 PM   #124
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Please, pretty please do not screw this one up Paramount!

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I for one would much rather have the Chinatown BD as back-up to the UHD, especially if made from the remaster.

I've never seen Two Jakes, but I fear that it will be a film I'll watch only once—Chinatown, I already know.

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I would rather it just include a Chinatown BD also. I already have Two Jakes on Blu-ray, so it will be redundant and obviously the same old disc. If it were a 4K UHD also, now that would be great. I guess it's still good for people who don't already own it, and it is a good film... but hardly a bona fide classic like Chinatown.
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Old 04-02-2024, 04:32 PM   #125
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This'll probably go ignored like my other posts on the topic but this is why the mono's inclusion would be significant, basically the remix just sucks

I made this comparison a few years ago about it but basically most of the changes involve gunshots

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9sv5RAEDyik
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Old 04-02-2024, 04:44 PM   #126
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This'll probably go ignored like my other posts on the topic but this is why the mono's inclusion would be significant, basically the remix just sucks

I made this comparison a few years ago about it but basically most of the changes involve gunshots

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9sv5RAEDyik
Thank you so much for this. When I saw this in theaters last week (I believe it was the 4K restoration DCP as part of some Regal Cinemas event), the gunshots in that first scene in the YouTube link instantly clicked with me and I knew which mix is which.

The DCP ended up showing the 5.1 mix. It was a weird mix because so much of it sounded like mono but those gunshots as mentioned sounded a little off to me when I was watching it.

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Did the Blu-ray not have the original mono? There's a 2.0 mono track on the disc AFAIK.
Looking at the reviews on the blu-ray.com page for the original Blu-ray, does sound like the original mono was included. Hopefully, Paramount will see it wise to re-release it again for the UHD.
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Old 04-02-2024, 05:32 PM   #127
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Top 3 film for me and my most wanted for 4K! The ancient Blu-ray badly needs an upgrade. Hopefully a UK one too.
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Thank you so much for this. When I saw this in theaters last week (I believe it was the 4K restoration DCP as part of some Regal Cinemas event), the gunshots in that first scene in the YouTube link instantly clicked with me and I knew which mix is which.

The DCP ended up showing the 5.1 mix. It was a weird mix because so much of it sounded like mono but those gunshots as mentioned sounded a little off to me when I was watching it.



Looking at the reviews on the blu-ray.com page for the original Blu-ray, does sound like the original mono was included. Hopefully, Paramount will see it wise to re-release it again for the UHD.
The US BD had the original yes, the European/UK disks however did not
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Old 04-02-2024, 06:16 PM   #129
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Remixes often suck, we know this, so I'm not sure what kind of traction you expected your posts to get
Admittedly I'm just worried about it being excluded is all

Considering it is Paramount after all
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Old 04-02-2024, 06:57 PM   #130
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I would rather it just include a Chinatown BD also. I already have Two Jakes on Blu-ray, so it will be redundant and obviously the same old disc. If it were a 4K UHD also, now that would be great. I guess it's still good for people who don't already own it, and it is a good film... but hardly a bona fide classic like Chinatown.
We all probably have Chinatown on BD too though, just swap discs and bobs your uncle.
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Old 04-02-2024, 08:16 PM   #131
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We all probably have Chinatown on BD too though, just swap discs and bobs your uncle.
I'm really wondering what the actual "front" artwork of the inner case will be. All Chinatown, or with Two Jakes on the back? You just really can't tell in the pre-release images one way or the other.

But that might be a good idea to do exactly that in the end. I'll just be stuck with 2 Two Jakes.
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Old 04-02-2024, 08:50 PM   #132
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The Two Jakes is pretty mediocre. I'll probably give it another watch, but it's so forgettable that the only thing I remember about it was there being a laughably bad
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The 4K version that's been available on streaming for the last few years looks like a sharpened/noise reduced upscale of the Blu-ray. Hopefully this physical release will fare better, but it's Paramount so I don't have much hope.
Yeah I watched it and wasn't too impressed. Hopefully this is a new scan.
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Old 04-02-2024, 10:24 PM   #134
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Sure, "The Two Jakes" is certainly not even in the ballpark when it comes to the greatness of "Chinatown", but I don't think it's as terrible as some might lead you to believe. Especially considering how movies have gotten considerably worse in the last decade. Just by default "The Two Jakes" looks pretty good now by comparison. So if you view it in that context it ain't so bad.

But I'm a big Nicholson fan and I love the cast in "Jakes" so if you can adjust your expectations appropriately, for me it's fun to spend just a little more time in the cinematic world of "Chinatown." Really wish somebody would do a documentary on the making of both these films. I mean at one point Cannon was trying to do the sequel, Robert Evans was wanting to play "Jake" in the film and in the end it really soured the relationships between Evans, Towne and Nicholson. Just fascinating stuff looking back.
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Old 04-02-2024, 10:49 PM   #135
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Man, I remember my dad being so excited to see the sequel to Chinatown, a movie he loved dearly. When he saw it and I asked him how it was he said, "Well...it kinda sucked".

I still laugh to this day remembering that.
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UK Release (collectors edition): https://www.amazon.co.uk/Chinatown-A.../dp/B0CZ9HH467

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Old 04-03-2024, 01:35 AM   #139
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At first I thought it didn’t have the mono track, but looks like it does. It doesn’t state “Restored Mono TrueHD” on the UHD specs though, looks like it’s just a Dolby Digital 2.0 track. Could be an error on the case though
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problem solved for those not wanting The Two Jakes (if the blu is region free and they're willing to import) !!


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