Help with weird video problem please - Blu-ray Forum

cterry04 · 06-20-2009, 03:29 PM

I was hoping someone could help me figure out whats going on. I have a PS3 hooked up via HDMI to a Sony KDL-40W4100. When I watch Blu-Rays sometimes parts of the picture get this weird grey "pixelation". It seems to happen only in darker shaded parts of the picture when there is quick movement. Does anyone have any idea what this is? Thanks in advance.

liquidice · 06-20-2009, 03:33 PM

whay type of HDMI cable are you using? Length? Are you running HDMI to a receiver and then another HDMI to the tv?..or just straight to the tv?

cterry04 · 06-20-2009, 03:39 PM

Its Monster Cable 1 meter and it goes directly into the tv

liquidice · 06-20-2009, 04:14 PM

ok, and this is every movie you watch?...or just a couple? Does it happen in the same spot of the movie everytime?...or totally random To be sure, if your watching a movie and this pixelation happens, if you rewind the movie some to view the same scene, does it happen exactly like the first time?

sorry for all the questions, but it's the only way to get to the bottom of the problem.

cterry04 · 06-20-2009, 04:19 PM

There is a scene in the movie Australia that I notice it most in and I see it every time. I have tried going through the scene frame by frame and it isnt there when I do that.

cterry04 · 06-20-2009, 04:33 PM

I took a pic of what it looks like. My description wasn't very good.

liquidice · 06-20-2009, 04:45 PM

give me a rundown of what your PS3 is set to do. Also, is your PS3 fully updated? If you don't have it directly hooked up to the internet, feed that thing an ethernet cable, and select update to see if your behind on the latest. Otherwise, go to your video settings and list what everything is selected at. You may just want to run the setup again, HDMI and what not. So your not using an AVR at all?...or your doing that through the optical cable? That is a 1080p tv, right?

cterry04 · 06-20-2009, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by liquidice

give me a rundown of what your PS3 is set to do. Also, is your PS3 fully updated? If you don't have it directly hooked up to the internet, feed that thing an ethernet cable, and select update to see if your behind on the latest. Otherwise, go to your video settings and list what everything is selected at. You may just want to run the setup again, HDMI and what not. So your not using an AVR at all?...or your doing that through the optical cable? That is a 1080p tv, right?

I am using optical out to a logitech 5.1 speaker system, my system is fully updated, and the TV is 1080P 120Hz.

Video Settings
BD/DVD Cinema Conversion- Automatic
DVD Wide Display- Letterbox
BD/DVD Upscaler- Off
BD/DVD Video Output Format (HDMI)- Y Pb/Cb Pr/Cr
BD 1080P 24Hz Output (HDMI)- Automatic
BD/DVD Dynamic Range Control- Off
BD/DVD Audio Output Format (HDMI)- Linear PCM
BD Audio Output Format (Optical Digital)- Bitstream

Display Settings
Cross Color Reduction Filter- Off
RGB Full Range (HDMI)- Full
Y Pb/Cb Pr/Cr Super-White (HDMI)- On

liquidice · 06-20-2009, 05:12 PM

do you listen to audio through the tv speakers? If not, set the HDMI audio off, because then it will only send video. Try turning super white off. You may also want to experiement with changing video format to RBG instead of the Y color format. Try flipping a few of those around and see if it changes anything. If we don't get anywhere with this, I'm going to start leaning towards the tv being the problem, but I find it strange that this is happening in that particular part of Australia. Also when you said you go frame by frame and the pixels are not there might have something to do with the motion setting on your tv. Regardless, mess with the PS3 again to see if there is a difference.

cterry04 · 06-20-2009, 06:21 PM

I tried those suggestions and it didn't make any difference. I'm kind of thinking it may be the tv also.

liquidice · 06-20-2009, 06:58 PM

see what you can do with the motion settings on your set. With the 120hz sets, things are bound to be sometimes problematic because of the motion blur whacha-ma-call-it.

SlmShdy1 · 06-20-2009, 08:42 PM

That's what I thought right away. The motion enhancers on 120Hz TV's introduce artifacts. Try turning your Cinemotion, or whatever it's called, all the way off.

cterry04 · 06-21-2009, 12:48 AM

Thanks for your help. It looks like it was the CineMotion that was causing it. If I set it to "Off" or "Auto 2" its fine but if I have it set to "Auto 1" it causes problems.

06-20-2009, 03:29 PM	#1
cterry04 Junior Member Member since:Aug 2008 Blu-ray collection:90	Help with weird video problem please I was hoping someone could help me figure out whats going on. I have a PS3 hooked up via HDMI to a Sony KDL-40W4100. When I watch Blu-Rays sometimes parts of the picture get this weird grey "pixelation". It seems to happen only in darker shaded parts of the picture when there is quick movement. Does anyone have any idea what this is? Thanks in advance.

06-20-2009, 06:58 PM	#11
liquidice Mad Scientist Top ranked HT gallery Member since:Jun 2008 Location:Milwaukee Home Theater Gallery:43 Blu-ray collection:384 Blu-ray reviews:6	see what you can do with the motion settings on your set. With the 120hz sets, things are bound to be sometimes problematic because of the motion blur whacha-ma-call-it. Last edited by liquidice; 06-20-2009 at 09:57 PM.

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06-20-2009, 03:33 PM	#2
liquidice Mad Scientist Top ranked HT gallery Member since:Jun 2008 Location:Milwaukee Home Theater Gallery:43 Blu-ray collection:384 Blu-ray reviews:6	whay type of HDMI cable are you using? Length? Are you running HDMI to a receiver and then another HDMI to the tv?..or just straight to the tv?

06-20-2009, 03:39 PM	#3
cterry04 Junior Member Member since:Aug 2008 Blu-ray collection:90	Its Monster Cable 1 meter and it goes directly into the tv

06-20-2009, 04:14 PM	#4
liquidice Mad Scientist Top ranked HT gallery Member since:Jun 2008 Location:Milwaukee Home Theater Gallery:43 Blu-ray collection:384 Blu-ray reviews:6	ok, and this is every movie you watch?...or just a couple? Does it happen in the same spot of the movie everytime?...or totally random To be sure, if your watching a movie and this pixelation happens, if you rewind the movie some to view the same scene, does it happen exactly like the first time? sorry for all the questions, but it's the only way to get to the bottom of the problem.

06-20-2009, 04:19 PM	#5
cterry04 Junior Member Member since:Aug 2008 Blu-ray collection:90	There is a scene in the movie Australia that I notice it most in and I see it every time. I have tried going through the scene frame by frame and it isnt there when I do that.

06-20-2009, 04:33 PM	#6
cterry04 Junior Member Member since:Aug 2008 Blu-ray collection:90	I took a pic of what it looks like. My description wasn't very good.

06-20-2009, 04:45 PM	#7
liquidice Mad Scientist Top ranked HT gallery Member since:Jun 2008 Location:Milwaukee Home Theater Gallery:43 Blu-ray collection:384 Blu-ray reviews:6	give me a rundown of what your PS3 is set to do. Also, is your PS3 fully updated? If you don't have it directly hooked up to the internet, feed that thing an ethernet cable, and select update to see if your behind on the latest. Otherwise, go to your video settings and list what everything is selected at. You may just want to run the setup again, HDMI and what not. So your not using an AVR at all?...or your doing that through the optical cable? That is a 1080p tv, right?

06-20-2009, 05:12 PM	#9
liquidice Mad Scientist Top ranked HT gallery Member since:Jun 2008 Location:Milwaukee Home Theater Gallery:43 Blu-ray collection:384 Blu-ray reviews:6	do you listen to audio through the tv speakers? If not, set the HDMI audio off, because then it will only send video. Try turning super white off. You may also want to experiement with changing video format to RBG instead of the Y color format. Try flipping a few of those around and see if it changes anything. If we don't get anywhere with this, I'm going to start leaning towards the tv being the problem, but I find it strange that this is happening in that particular part of Australia. Also when you said you go frame by frame and the pixels are not there might have something to do with the motion setting on your tv. Regardless, mess with the PS3 again to see if there is a difference.

06-20-2009, 06:21 PM	#10
cterry04 Junior Member Member since:Aug 2008 Blu-ray collection:90	I tried those suggestions and it didn't make any difference. I'm kind of thinking it may be the tv also.

06-20-2009, 08:42 PM	#12
SlmShdy1 Blu-ray Guru Top contributor Member since:Nov 2007 Location:Honolulu, HI PlayStation® PSN: SlmShdy1 Home Theater Gallery:39 Blu-ray collection:292	That's what I thought right away. The motion enhancers on 120Hz TV's introduce artifacts. Try turning your Cinemotion, or whatever it's called, all the way off.

06-21-2009, 12:48 AM	#13
cterry04 Junior Member Member since:Aug 2008 Blu-ray collection:90	Thanks for your help. It looks like it was the CineMotion that was causing it. If I set it to "Off" or "Auto 2" its fine but if I have it set to "Auto 1" it causes problems.

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