Maybe this is why Blockbuster went Blu - Blu-ray Forum

atomik kinder · 06-28-2007, 07:00 PM

This is too funny......
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=867611

Netflix HD-DVD rentals are WORTHLESS

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I am sorry, but I need to vent. I've been a Netflix user since late 2000. Since I bought my Toshiba player, I've have had only **TWO** movies from Netflix work all the way through.

Today, I received four HD discs. NONE of them played all the way through.

It has everything to do with the quality of the disc. The movies I've bought from BB have played perfectly every time. The rentals from Netflix are always TRASHED. I mean they are visibly scratched up *worse* than regular DVDs I've rented from them.

Who the hell is doing this?!

So again, I go to Netflix and click "damaged disc" for four movies. I did this to two HD-DVDs on Thursday.

Has anyone else had this problem or is it just me?

Ender · 06-28-2007, 07:03 PM

I wouldn't be surprised if it played a part, having a more durable disc should reduce BB's replacement costs.

CJ P · 06-28-2007, 07:05 PM

I can vouch for that. I did a rant over at Home Theater Talk after having a string of 6/7 HD-DVDs that locked up and/or skipped etc. I've not had any issue with BDs.

gandley · 06-28-2007, 07:07 PM

OK, so who is going to own up to ordering HD-DVDs from netfix and scatching them?

you know a HD-DVD fanboy is going to use that as the reason to why this happens

atomik kinder · 06-28-2007, 07:09 PM

Also, reading further. Someone stated he should buy a new player because he was having the same problems and then just bought a new player. makes me wonder. How many people have purchased more than one HD-DVD player because they are so "cheap". I read on another forum that someone said they had THREE HD-DVD players, one for each room with an HDTV. Then you start to think. Someone with three players obviously is not going to buy three copies of a disc. I think someone may be thinking that there may be more users than there actually are. Thus, less sales of movies...

The Don · 06-28-2007, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by gandley

OK, so who is going to own up to ordering HD-DVDs from netfix and scatching them?

you know a HD-DVD fanboy is going to use that as the reason to why this happens

ahaha you thought it first!

gandley · 06-28-2007, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by The Don

ahaha you thought it first!

yeah, but i own HD-DVD as well, so it was the other me

but dont worry i beat the fooker good

NutsAboutPS3 · 06-28-2007, 07:19 PM

How do rental discs get scratched so badly?! When I take a disc out of the case, I hold it with my thumb in the centre hole and my index finger on the outer edge, the playing surface doesn't get touched at all. It then goes into the player, and when it's removed from the player I hold it the same way to put it back in the case. None of my discs ever receive any damage of any description, I have no idea how people manage to damage discs as it seems so simple to avoid.

gandley · 06-28-2007, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by NutsAboutPS3

How do rental discs get scratched so badly?! When I take a disc out of the case, I hold it with my thumb in the centre hole and my index finger on the outer edge, the playing surface doesn't get touched at all. It then goes into the player, and when it's removed from the player I hold it the same way to put it back in the case. None of my discs ever receive any damage of any description, I have no idea how people manage to damage discs as it seems so simple to avoid.

well i guess people just arent as considerate to the next user as they should be. its rented and dosent get treated as if it was ones own property. i bet the guy who did the BD stress testing used a BB disc

Longshot · 06-28-2007, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by atomik kinder

Also, reading further. Someone stated he should buy a new player because he was having the same problems and then just bought a new player. makes me wonder. How many people have purchased more than one HD-DVD player because they are so "cheap". I read on another forum that someone said they had THREE HD-DVD players, one for each room with an HDTV. Then you start to think. Someone with three players obviously is not going to buy three copies of a disc. I think someone may be thinking that there may be more users than there actually are. Thus, less sales of movies...

Great point. If 150,000 HD DVD palyers have been sold I guarantee you there is not 150,000 new owners. Many of these fools have triple dipped with the A1, A2 & 360 add-on. I would not be surprised if a third of the total players sold are to repeat buyers.

gandley · 06-28-2007, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Longshot

Great point. If 150,000 HD DVD palyers have been sold I guarantee you there is not 150,000 new owners. Many of these fools have triple dipped with the A1, A2 & 360 add-on. I would not be surprised if a third of the total players sold are to repeat buyers.

Oi, you cheeky begger. i aint no crazy fool.

i bought the A1 aand then bought an XE1. but yes i know quite a few people who own more than 1 HD-DVD player, but then i know people with more than 1 BD player.

MrBogey · 06-28-2007, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by gandley

i bet the guy who did the BD stress testing used a BB disc

He used the free disc that came with the PS3.

Most rental discs are treated like crap.

atomik kinder · 06-28-2007, 08:17 PM

Rental discs can get scratched up many different ways. People just don't care because they don't belong to them. They leave them laying around, let their kids handle them. Plus, the Netflix discs are mailed in an envelope, not much protection at all. I have had a few standard DVDs that wouldn't play when I got them, so I can forsee that this will be a major problem. Also Netflix doesn't seem to replace, in their inventory, dics that get damaged.

AustinSTI · 06-28-2007, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by gandley

OK, so who is going to own up to ordering HD-DVDs from netfix and scatching them?

you know a HD-DVD fanboy is going to use that as the reason to why this happens

It was me - I thought if I rented enough HD-DVDs, scratched them and sent them back HD-DVD renters would go Blu and Blu-Ray would win...

CJ P · 06-28-2007, 08:24 PM

It takes fewer/and or less severe scratches to ruin an HD-DVD or BD because the data density. Trying to think of a good analogy but basically sicne its trying to read finer information, less sever scratches can interfere. Same thing with CDs vs DVDs. You can play a pretty trashed CD.

Branden · 06-28-2007, 08:36 PM

could it also be that thanks to Toshiba's attempt to make cheap-ass players they actually succeeded and made finicky cheap-ass players?

IamNhobdy · 06-28-2007, 09:26 PM

I'm prettey sure it's a healthy combination of user/renter negligence and shipping dammage. I order BD from BlockBuster's online rental. The first disc I got(Benchwarmers) was cracked clean through the outer edge of the disc, not just the protective coating. The menu loaded, but it wouldn't play from the start. I just used scene selection & still was able to watch the movie from after the opening credits. BD kicks ass! Everything else I've gotten plays perfectly.
Can't speak for hddvd.

CJS234 · 06-28-2007, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by gandley

OK, so who is going to own up to ordering HD-DVDs from netfix and scatching them?

you know a HD-DVD fanboy is going to use that as the reason to why this happens

IM SORRY! IM SORRY!!!!!!!....NO IM NOT!!! IM NOT SORRY!!! HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

gandley · 06-28-2007, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by CJS234

IM SORRY! IM SORRY!!!!!!!....NO IM NOT!!! IM NOT SORRY!!! HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

OMG, it was you!! ....NICE.

GasCat · 06-28-2007, 10:13 PM

I have a friend who uses Netflix for DVDs. The stories I hears are incredible. Most are cracked or horribly scratched. It's crazy what some people do to the discs.

06-28-2007, 07:00 PM	#1
atomik kinder Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jun 2007 Location:Omaha NE 4K collection:- Blu-ray collection:- DVD collection:-	Maybe this is why Blockbuster went Blu This is too funny...... http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=867611 Netflix HD-DVD rentals are WORTHLESS -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I am sorry, but I need to vent. I've been a Netflix user since late 2000. Since I bought my Toshiba player, I've have had only TWO movies from Netflix work all the way through. Today, I received four HD discs. NONE of them played all the way through. It has everything to do with the quality of the disc. The movies I've bought from BB have played perfectly every time. The rentals from Netflix are always TRASHED. I mean they are visibly scratched up worse than regular DVDs I've rented from them. Who the hell is doing this?! So again, I go to Netflix and click "damaged disc" for four movies. I did this to two HD-DVDs on Thursday. Has anyone else had this problem or is it just me?

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06-28-2007, 07:03 PM	#2
Ender Active Member Top contributor Member since:Jun 2007 Location:Columbia, SC Blu-ray collection:113 DVD collection:3	I wouldn't be surprised if it played a part, having a more durable disc should reduce BB's replacement costs.

06-28-2007, 07:05 PM	#3
CJ P Active Member Member since:Jun 2007	I can vouch for that. I did a rant over at Home Theater Talk after having a string of 6/7 HD-DVDs that locked up and/or skipped etc. I've not had any issue with BDs.

06-28-2007, 07:07 PM	#4
gandley Special Member Member since:Feb 2007 Location:The Drowning Pool	OK, so who is going to own up to ordering HD-DVDs from netfix and scatching them? you know a HD-DVD fanboy is going to use that as the reason to why this happens

06-28-2007, 07:09 PM	#5
atomik kinder Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jun 2007 Location:Omaha NE 4K collection:- Blu-ray collection:- DVD collection:-	Also, reading further. Someone stated he should buy a new player because he was having the same problems and then just bought a new player. makes me wonder. How many people have purchased more than one HD-DVD player because they are so "cheap". I read on another forum that someone said they had THREE HD-DVD players, one for each room with an HDTV. Then you start to think. Someone with three players obviously is not going to buy three copies of a disc. I think someone may be thinking that there may be more users than there actually are. Thus, less sales of movies...

06-28-2007, 07:19 PM	#8
NutsAboutPS3 Expert Member Member since:Apr 2007 Location:UK Blu-ray reviews:1	How do rental discs get scratched so badly?! When I take a disc out of the case, I hold it with my thumb in the centre hole and my index finger on the outer edge, the playing surface doesn't get touched at all. It then goes into the player, and when it's removed from the player I hold it the same way to put it back in the case. None of my discs ever receive any damage of any description, I have no idea how people manage to damage discs as it seems so simple to avoid.

06-28-2007, 08:17 PM	#13
atomik kinder Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jun 2007 Location:Omaha NE 4K collection:- Blu-ray collection:- DVD collection:-	Rental discs can get scratched up many different ways. People just don't care because they don't belong to them. They leave them laying around, let their kids handle them. Plus, the Netflix discs are mailed in an envelope, not much protection at all. I have had a few standard DVDs that wouldn't play when I got them, so I can forsee that this will be a major problem. Also Netflix doesn't seem to replace, in their inventory, dics that get damaged.

06-28-2007, 08:24 PM	#15
CJ P Active Member Member since:Jun 2007	It takes fewer/and or less severe scratches to ruin an HD-DVD or BD because the data density. Trying to think of a good analogy but basically sicne its trying to read finer information, less sever scratches can interfere. Same thing with CDs vs DVDs. You can play a pretty trashed CD.

06-28-2007, 08:36 PM	#16
Branden Senior Member Member since:Jun 2007 Location:Calgary, Alberta 4K collection:28 Blu-ray collection:558	could it also be that thanks to Toshiba's attempt to make cheap-ass players they actually succeeded and made finicky cheap-ass players?

06-28-2007, 09:26 PM	#17
IamNhobdy Senior Member Member since:May 2007 Location:Earth..I think...no, wait yeah...I think Blu-ray collection:342	I'm prettey sure it's a healthy combination of user/renter negligence and shipping dammage. I order BD from BlockBuster's online rental. The first disc I got(Benchwarmers) was cracked clean through the outer edge of the disc, not just the protective coating. The menu loaded, but it wouldn't play from the start. I just used scene selection & still was able to watch the movie from after the opening credits. BD kicks ass! Everything else I've gotten plays perfectly. Can't speak for hddvd.

06-28-2007, 10:13 PM	#20
GasCat Special Member Member since:Jan 2007 Blu-ray reviews:1	I have a friend who uses Netflix for DVDs. The stories I hears are incredible. Most are cracked or horribly scratched. It's crazy what some people do to the discs.

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