1080p vs 1080i Didnt See Much Difference..

[CRMA]

I was interested in upgrading my Sanyo to a 1080p projector. I was in Ultimate Electronics and saw the JVC, forgot the model #, but it was their big dog. They had it in the demo theater playing Live Free or Die Hard on Blu. It was a great demo disc and they had it on a 100 in screen. I was about 12 or so feet away , my normal viewing distance, but I really didnt notice a huge difference between mine and theirs. Mine is a cheapy with 600:1 contrast ratio. I can really notice the differences on the from 80i to 80p on the plasmas but it starts to get grainy at that projector size. I was looking into the Panny AE-2000u or the 3000. Would I be better off going with an 80i projector and a good quality screen and not worry about the 1080p at this point. Is it just me or is there a quality projector out there that will impress me?

[ditch-digger]

not sure what you were looking at, i was not there. but 1080p on a 100+" screen is very noticeable.

if looking at a new projector try the new optoma hd20, or x10 from infocus. both 1080p. and under or close to $1000.00

what is your budget..????

[ryoohki]

There's no 1080i projectors. All of them are progressive (digital) you either have a 1366x768 or 1280x720 machine.

I made the jump from a Z2000 (1080p) to AE3000 (1080p) and the difference is incredible.

Never base you're impression on 'store' viewing for all display. You end up being wayyyy more impressed in you're home because that what you watch everyday than some random room in a store..

[dolphinc]

Originally Posted by ryoohki

There's no 1080i projectors. All of them are progressive (digital) you either have a 1366x768 or 1280x720 machine.

I made the jump from a Z2000 (1080p) to AE3000 (1080p) and the difference is incredible.

Never base you're impression on 'store' viewing for all display. You end up being wayyyy more impressed in you're home because that what you watch everyday than some random room in a store..

+1, Last Jan I was in Circuit City (Before they closed) and I saw the Samsung 52" LCD playing IronMan and I was impressed at the picture detail, I bought the TV, got it home, calibrated it and the picture looks 10 times better than it ever looked in the store.

EDIT: This is ment for both TV's and projectors.

Store displays are usually set to "Living Room" mode or something like that where everything is over saturated, too bright, etc.

[ryoohki]

Originally Posted by dolphinc

+1, Last Jan I was in Circuit City (Before they closed) and I saw the Samsung 52" LCD playing IronMan and I was impressed at the picture detail, I bought the TV, got it home, calibrated it and the picture looks 10 times better than it ever looked in the store.

EDIT: This is ment for both TV's and projectors.

Store displays are usually set to "Living Room" mode or something like that where everything is over saturated, too bright, etc.

Not only that but the Light inside a store is generally more powerful and room are gigantic. In a home, room are a lot smaller and light reflect, sometime it makes it look like brither .

Also for projectors, screen are personnal thing. Personnally i only judge by Dalite High Power screen, this one is my favorite. My friend have the same AE3000 with a Gray screen and imho it doesn't look as impressive as mine...

[syncguy]

Originally Posted by ryoohki

There's no 1080i projectors. All of them are progressive (digital) you either have a 1366x768 or 1280x720 machine.

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It is true that all projectors display in progressive mode. However, there could be projectors that only accepts 1080i signal and internally converts to 1080p for display. (I should note that I haven't seen such projectors.)

[Jtodd]

Originally Posted by CRMA

I was interested in upgrading my Sanyo to a 1080p projector. I was in Ultimate Electronics and saw the JVC, forgot the model #, but it was their big dog. They had it in the demo theater playing Live Free or Die Hard on Blu. It was a great demo disc and they had it on a 100 in screen. I was about 12 or so feet away , my normal viewing distance, but I really didnt notice a huge difference between mine and theirs. Mine is a cheapy with 600:1 contrast ratio. I can really notice the differences on the from 80i to 80p on the plasmas but it starts to get grainy at that projector size. I was looking into the Panny AE-2000u or the 3000. Would I be better off going with an 80i projector and a good quality screen and not worry about the 1080p at this point. Is it just me or is there a quality projector out there that will impress me?

Honestly front projectors have never impressed me.

[CRMA]

My projector is 600x800 native resolution and I saw little difference at Ultimate. I was trying to find a good deal on a AE-2000U. I guess the screen has a lot to do with it too. Thanks for the input guys!!

[ditch-digger]

Originally Posted by Jtodd

Honestly front projectors have never impressed me.

me either....

[Goldensuitcase]

Now that's beautiful. What do you have as far as your projector is concerned?

[Beta Man]

Originally Posted by Goldensuitcase

Now that's beautiful. What do you have as far as your projector is concerned?

it's not his.... the guy's name is Wolfgang Mayer...... and that screen costs more than all of my gear...... and I'm guessing the projector is six-figures.... I'll have to dig to find the model etc.

EDIT:

I was close..... About $150,000 for the projector

http://www.cine4home.com/reviews/pro...K/SRX-R110.htm

[Pondosinatra]

Originally Posted by ditch-digger

me either....

I have yet to see an AFFORDABLE front projector that impresses me either.

[ditch-digger]

Originally Posted by Pondosinatra

I have yet to see an AFFORDABLE front projector that impresses me either.

thats to bad.....

ive yet to see a sub 60" tv that impresses me....

[killat0n]

Originally Posted by ditch-digger

thats to bad.....

ive yet to see a sub 60" tv that impresses me....

I agree 100%. TV's are for watching television. Projector's are for watching films how they were made to be viewed.

[syncguy]

Originally Posted by ditch-digger

me either....

One should see a good setup to believe. Well, that is breathtaking. That screen really deserves a blu-ray image not DVD.

[Disky76]

Originally Posted by Jtodd

Honestly front projectors have never impressed me.

A good FP setup really depends on so many factors - and if one of them is not addressed, it could limit the FP experience. Hi Def FP - when set up properly in a dedicated, light controlled room, remains the quintessential home theatre experience. No TV can ever match that, or even come close, at least not currently.

TV's are convenient - they can be placed just about anywhere, generally don't have a problem in a brightly lit room, and you can cram a big TV in a small room and still watch it - and you can generally turn a tv off and on throughout the day for normal use watching.

Projectors, on the other hand, are quite finicky with regards to displaying the material - they need a darkened room, a specific distance and height to project from, and they are much more complicated to set up. Projectors also have one big need that, I suspect, most people don't have a lot of - space. Projectors need quite a bit of space.

However, when setup with the specific paremeters in mind - light controlling, throw, etc...having a screen that's measured in feet instead of inches truly brings the theatre experience to the home. A 60" tv would be TINY compare to a 100" or 120" screen. And the scope setups eliminate the "black bars" so the picture is even bigger and more theatrical.

So, if you say that you haven't seen a projector that has impressed you, I understand. But if you saw a FP setup in action that is setup properly, in a dedicated, light controlled room, I would be willing to bet you would most definitely be impressed.

[syncguy]

Originally Posted by Disky76

A good FP setup really depends on so many factors - and if one of them is not addressed, it could limit the FP experience. Hi Def FP - when set up properly in a dedicated, light controlled room, remains the quintessential home theatre experience. No TV can ever match that, or even come close, at least not currently.
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This is all true and good points. Yes dedication is needed for a good projector setup. Complete light control and eliminating/reducing reflective surroundings, i.e. darker walls, ceiling, carpet and furniture will improve the picture significantly.

[Beta Man]

Originally Posted by syncguy

This is all true and good points. Yes dedication is needed for a good projector setup. Complete light control and eliminating/reducing reflective surroundings, i.e. darker walls, ceiling, carpet and furniture will improve the picture significantly.

exactly..... Sometimes my son likes to "dance" so I play a concert DVD/BD and he dances around on the floor..... I give him a small (very small actually) flashlight..... and he dances around with it.... Just the light from that flashlight, even when not pointed directly at the screen, degrades the image quality greatly.... and it's one of the flashlights you can put on a keychain!

[BluePotato]

This is a great discussion we have going on here! An enjoyable Sunday night read.

BTW, that Star Wars screenshot was amazing.