Do you want updated special effects for 2001: A Space Odyssey? - Blu-ray Forum

Q? · 11-10-2009, 03:50 PM

My question is to you 2001 fans out there.
The scenes I'm talking about are the exterior space ship shots & not the 5/6 min. acid trip at the ending.
Before you start flaming me, I'm still able to enjoy 2001 for what it is, I thoroughly love it.
But sometimes I can help but think to myself that the shots "need" to look more realistic. After all Kubricks goal was to make it realistic.

I know many of you are going to shoot this idea down, kind of like the "Casablanca colorized" thread.
I personally would be interested in it, after all nothing of Kubrick's ideas and goals with this movie would be compromised by a slight "facelift" in my opinion.

JRS03 · 11-10-2009, 03:53 PM

Why would you ever destroy a masterpiece? I mean look at Lucas he has totally butchered the SW masterpieces! Just leave stuff alone! If you want to see new effects then make a new film...

I just dont understand where this stuff is coming from. Do new special effects make a film better? No...

CZAR · 11-10-2009, 03:57 PM

Boyee u love this movie dont u? lol Got Em!!

Q? · 11-10-2009, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by JRS03

Why would you ever destroy a masterpiece? I mean look at Lucas he has totally butchered the SW masterpieces! Just leave stuff alone! If you want to see new effects then make a new film...

I just dont understand where this stuff is coming from. Do new special effects make a film better? No...

I'm afraid you're misunderstanding me.
I'm talking about elevating the realism, I'm sure Kubrick would have wanted that if he had the resoures and the special effects at the time couldn't live up to it.
It's still impressive though.

groove93 · 11-10-2009, 03:59 PM

For what purpose would you try and update some of the most stunning images in film. This is a slow-paced film, and the sequences and music fit quite well, although the score was not the first choice to begin with. Just call it, destiny.

The flyby of the Discovery is enough for me to say, that this is Demo material in my books.

Sponge-worthy · 11-10-2009, 03:59 PM

Nope.

JRS03 · 11-10-2009, 04:00 PM

"When" a film comes out is almost as important as the film itself. I dont think just because films can be made to look more "modern" is a reason to change them.

Q? · 11-10-2009, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by JRS03

"When" a film comes out is almost as important as the film itself. I dont think just because films can be made to look more "modern" is a reason to change them.

You're totally misunderstanding me man.
I'm talking about elevating the realism. Not making it "modern".

groove93 · 11-10-2009, 04:01 PM

A certain quote from "Ratchet" is needed.

lol

Q? · 11-10-2009, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by CZAR

Boyee u love this movie dont u? lol Got Em!!

I think I just made my own "hate following"
Go!!

CZAR · 11-10-2009, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Q!

I think I just made my own "hate following"
Go!!

I aint mad atcha! We love what we love right?

Got Em!!

P@t_Mtl · 11-10-2009, 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Q!

My question is to you 2001 fans out there.
The scenes I'm talking about are the exterior space ship shots & not the 5/6 min. acid trip at the ending.
Before you start flaming me, I'm still able to enjoy 2001 for what it is, I thoroughly love it.
But sometimes I can help but think to myself that the shots "need" to look more realistic. After all Kubricks goal was to make it realistic.

I know many of you are going to shoot this idea down, kind of like the "Casablanca colorized" thread.
I personally would be interested in it, after all nothing of Kubrick's ideas and goals with this movie would be compromised by a slight "facelift" in my opinion.

Oh boy! My friend Q talk about opening a can of worms on that one

get ready for some flak

OT I understand what you are trying to say, you are talking more in the way of what was done for the original Star Trek series. Leave everything there, just re-make the exterior space shots with newer tech. Personaly I would not see much of a problem with that.

Sussudio · 11-10-2009, 04:27 PM

Wow, definitely not....there is absolutely no reason this movie needs to be enhanced or altered in any way aside from remastering (imo). I wouldn't be completely opposed to something ala the Star Trek TV show, where they offered the choice to view it with updated effects or original, but for 2001, I really don't think it's necessary. It was a movie made in 1968, not 2009, and its technological achievements are that much more amazing because of it

Duffy12 · 11-10-2009, 04:30 PM

Put me down as a 'negatory' also.

If they want to update something from the movie then CGI new uniforms for the stewardesses. Boy...do they really show some age there.

.

Deadset · 11-10-2009, 04:32 PM

[sarcasm]I just watched One Million Years BC last night and that could use some work, I'm all for destroying history and methods of that time in favor of CG. Ray Harryhausen's methods are crude and ugly[/sarcasm]

2001 on blu-ray is fantastic, doesn't need anything added. It'd be a travesty if it did. Why even ask this question?

Lord_Stewie · 11-10-2009, 04:37 PM

Don't see a problem with adding realism shots to the movie. I mean the movie is already done so enhancing the shots shouldn't be an issue to begin with.

Wasn't this done with T2 a couple of times?.

TheZoof · 11-10-2009, 05:07 PM

Hasn't been done to T2 that I am aware of.

I am not interested in 2001 getting a revamp because the director has passed on but to me the Starwars movies with new special effects are better than the orginals.

I just didn't like the extra scenes added to change the flow of the film.

Sagacious Koreo · 11-10-2009, 05:19 PM

I agree that if it WAS done that there should be some sort of option to view with or without the effects. The movie is most definitely a masterpiece as is though. I don't think that it ever needs to be any more real than it already is. It sort of steps out of the bounds of realism towards the end anyway.

broganreynik · 11-10-2009, 05:25 PM

I'd actually argue that it looks more realistic than CGI crap anyway. So, obviously I'm going to say no.

Q? · 11-10-2009, 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CZAR

I aint mad atcha! We love what we love right?

Got Em!!

Right man...
I've made my special catchphrase just for you man

Go!!

Quote:

Originally Posted by P@t_Mtl

Oh boy! My friend Q talk about opening a can of worms on that one get ready for some flak

OT I understand what you are trying to say, you are talking more in the way of what was done for the original Star Trek series. Leave everything there, just re-make the exterior space shots with newer tech. Personaly I would not see much of a problem with that.

I expected that, but I'm not worried about that.

That's exactly what I'm talking about with the Star Trek series comparison.

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Originally Posted by Sussudio

Wow, definitely not....there is absolutely no reason this movie needs to be enhanced or altered in any way aside from remastering (imo). I wouldn't be completely opposed to something ala the Star Trek TV show, where they offered the choice to view it with updated effects or original, but for 2001, I really don't think it's necessary.

It was a movie made in 1968, not 2009, and its technological achievements are that much more amazing because of it

Good to read & I respect that

Personally I don't think it's important when it was made, it's timeless and I think the movie should reflect that. If Kubrick had the resources, budget & technology, I think he would've definitely loved to make it as realistic as possible.
Adding dimension to the space ships. So why not honor Kubricks goal?

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Originally Posted by Lord_Stewie

Don't see a problem with adding realism shots to the movie. I mean the movie is already done so enhancing the shots shouldn't be an issue to begin with.

Wasn't this done with T2 a couple of times?.

I don't know much about T2 though...

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11-10-2009, 03:50 PM	#1
Q? Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Dec 2008 Location:Nuuk, Greenland Blu-ray collection:168	Do you want updated special effects for 2001: A Space Odyssey? My question is to you 2001 fans out there. The scenes I'm talking about are the exterior space ship shots & not the 5/6 min. acid trip at the ending. Before you start flaming me, I'm still able to enjoy 2001 for what it is, I thoroughly love it. But sometimes I can help but think to myself that the shots "need" to look more realistic. After all Kubricks goal was to make it realistic. I know many of you are going to shoot this idea down, kind of like the "Casablanca colorized" thread. I personally would be interested in it, after all nothing of Kubrick's ideas and goals with this movie would be compromised by a slight "facelift" in my opinion.

11-10-2009, 04:01 PM	#9
groove93 Expert Member Member since:Dec 2008 Home Theater Gallery:74 4K collection:44 Blu-ray collection:162	A certain quote from "Ratchet" is needed. lol Last edited by groove93; 11-10-2009 at 04:04 PM.

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11-10-2009, 03:53 PM	#2
JRS03 Banned Member since:May 2009 Blu-ray collection:51 Blu-ray reviews:5	Why would you ever destroy a masterpiece? I mean look at Lucas he has totally butchered the SW masterpieces! Just leave stuff alone! If you want to see new effects then make a new film... I just dont understand where this stuff is coming from. Do new special effects make a film better? No...

11-10-2009, 03:57 PM	#3
CZAR Blu-ray Prince Member since:Jul 2009 Location:Camp Crystal lake 4K collection:72 Blu-ray collection:312 Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:75	Boyee u love this movie dont u? lol Got Em!!

11-10-2009, 03:59 PM	#5
groove93 Expert Member Member since:Dec 2008 Home Theater Gallery:74 4K collection:44 Blu-ray collection:162	For what purpose would you try and update some of the most stunning images in film. This is a slow-paced film, and the sequences and music fit quite well, although the score was not the first choice to begin with. Just call it, destiny. The flyby of the Discovery is enough for me to say, that this is Demo material in my books.

11-10-2009, 03:59 PM	#6
Sponge-worthy Blu-ray Guru Member since:Apr 2009 Location:Southwest, USA PSN: Sponge-worthy Blu-ray collection:43	Nope.

11-10-2009, 04:00 PM	#7
JRS03 Banned Member since:May 2009 Blu-ray collection:51 Blu-ray reviews:5	"When" a film comes out is almost as important as the film itself. I dont think just because films can be made to look more "modern" is a reason to change them.

11-10-2009, 04:27 PM	#13
Sussudio Blu-ray Champion Member since:Sep 2008 Blu-ray collection:1 Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:11	Wow, definitely not....there is absolutely no reason this movie needs to be enhanced or altered in any way aside from remastering (imo). I wouldn't be completely opposed to something ala the Star Trek TV show, where they offered the choice to view it with updated effects or original, but for 2001, I really don't think it's necessary. It was a movie made in 1968, not 2009, and its technological achievements are that much more amazing because of it

11-10-2009, 04:30 PM	#14
Duffy12 Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Jul 2009 Location:Among the Tuatha’an 4K collection:20 Blu-ray collection:272	Put me down as a 'negatory' also. If they want to update something from the movie then CGI new uniforms for the stewardesses. Boy...do they really show some age there. .

11-10-2009, 04:32 PM	#15
Deadset Man in the Box Top contributor Member since:Jan 2007 Home Theater Gallery:28 4K collection:247 Blu-ray collection:2478 DVD collection:214 iTunes collection:3 Prime collection:52 Blu-ray reviews: 14 Trading Score:34	[sarcasm]I just watched One Million Years BC last night and that could use some work, I'm all for destroying history and methods of that time in favor of CG. Ray Harryhausen's methods are crude and ugly[/sarcasm] 2001 on blu-ray is fantastic, doesn't need anything added. It'd be a travesty if it did. Why even ask this question?

11-10-2009, 04:37 PM	#16
Lord_Stewie Blu-ray Baron Member since:May 2007 Blu-ray collection:396 Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:1	Don't see a problem with adding realism shots to the movie. I mean the movie is already done so enhancing the shots shouldn't be an issue to begin with. Wasn't this done with T2 a couple of times?.

11-10-2009, 05:07 PM	#17
TheZoof Blu-ray Guru Top contributor Member since:Aug 2008 Location:Ottawa,Canada Home Theater Gallery:27 4K collection:850 Blu-ray collection:1636 DVD collection:10 Blu-ray reviews: 38 Trading Score:2	Hasn't been done to T2 that I am aware of. I am not interested in 2001 getting a revamp because the director has passed on but to me the Starwars movies with new special effects are better than the orginals. I just didn't like the extra scenes added to change the flow of the film.

11-10-2009, 05:19 PM	#18
Sagacious Koreo Blu-ray Guru Top contributor Member since:May 2009 Blu-ray collection:685 Trading Score:3	I agree that if it WAS done that there should be some sort of option to view with or without the effects. The movie is most definitely a masterpiece as is though. I don't think that it ever needs to be any more real than it already is. It sort of steps out of the bounds of realism towards the end anyway.

11-10-2009, 05:25 PM	#19
broganreynik Blu-ray Guru Top contributor Member since:Sep 2007 Location:Nebraska Home Theater Gallery:60 4K collection:124 Blu-ray collection:2113 DVD collection:111 Blu-ray reviews: 4 Trading Score:46	I'd actually argue that it looks more realistic than CGI crap anyway. So, obviously I'm going to say no.

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