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Old 03-17-2010, 03:51 AM   #1
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Generally films that are not wholesome and send a degrading demeaning message. I thought American Psycho showed alot of bad behavior but I guess that was the intent of the director.
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American History X would be one that comes to mind.
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The mother of all "negative influences"

A Clockwork Orange.
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The Birth of a Nation.
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American History X, while violent and shocking, is not a negative film, imo. Rather, the point is to demonstrate the futility of hatred and nonsensical reasons for racial violence.
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Basically, i think that any films which contain explicit sex are negative influences, as are films which contain a ton of blood and gore, or a ton of swearing (especially when abusing God's name is involved).
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The Birth of a Nation.
I'd have to agree with The Birth of a Nation as the #1 choice, since the movie is basically a RECRUITMENT POSTER FOR THE KU KLUX KLAN!! Hello!?! It's one of the most racist movies ever made!

If we're including documentaries, then the number one spot should go to the Nazi propaganda film The Eternal Jew (1940) -- which masquerades as a documentary film. Anyone who's seen it knows how vile and disgusting it is.

Other than that, I can't think of many fiction films that are harmful, or really have a bad influence.
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American History X would be one that comes to mind.
There was a lesson learned in it though, I wouldn't consider the entire film negative. But, I can see where you're coming from as some people view the movie differently.
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Generally films that are not wholesome and send a degrading demeaning message. I thought American Psycho showed alot of bad behavior but I guess that was the intent of the director.
Fight Club, i mean you got fighting, anarchist view points, and good ole homegrown terrorism.

But if we were to take your thread title literally, i think the movie that had THE worst INFLUENCE no doubt about it is....

Wall Street

"Greed is Good"

a simple quote that influenced a generation.

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Old 03-20-2010, 03:41 AM   #11
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Fight Club, i mean you got fighting, anarchist view points, and good ole homegrown terrorism.
You met me at a very strange time in my life.
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Old 03-17-2010, 05:05 AM   #12
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Too many to list but here are some that have launched or re-launched genres that are feeding off the popularity of these so-called hits.

-American Pie (all of them)
-Saw/Hostel
-South Park (the movie and show)

It seems like 80% of what comes out these days are raunchy comedies and torture flicks. This stuff is garbage for your mind. Exposure to trash like this really does affect the way people think but most fans of movies like these will never admit it because they like it too much.
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Old 03-17-2010, 05:30 AM   #13
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It seems like 80% of what comes out these days are raunchy comedies and torture flicks. This stuff is garbage for your mind. Exposure to trash like this really does affect the way people think but most fans of movies like these will never admit it because they like it too much.
i agree. if you have to constantly make penis joke after penis joke, its probably a red flag that you couldnt pull it off with a PG script like the countless classics with Steve Martin and Bill Murray. same with torture porn: if you only know how to shock people with gore, rather than put them in suspense, like the master Hitchcock, its a red flag that you dont know how to truly terrorize.
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It seems like 80% of what comes out these days are raunchy comedies and torture flicks. This stuff is garbage for your mind.
Agreed 100%; I couldn't have said it better myself. That's why I avoided all but eight of the films released in the 2009 calendar year, and of those only two are on my video shelf.

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Exposure to trash like this really does affect the way people think, but most fans of movies like these will never admit it because they like it too much.
Which amazes me (in a negative way), that any person of conscience could even watch this crap, and not be insulted or disgusted by it. It's truly a shame that Hollywood has resorted to this...and what's worse is that unless folks stop buying it, the percentage of "crap vs. non-crap" will only get higher. For years - even decades - statistics galore have shown that Hollywood's #1 priority is money...and as tired as it sounds, it's still true: "If people quit watching it, they'll quit making it."
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Old 03-17-2010, 05:46 AM   #15
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Too many to list but here are some that have launched or re-launched genres that are feeding off the popularity of these so-called hits.

-American Pie (all of them)
-Saw/Hostel
-South Park (the movie and show)

It seems like 80% of what comes out these days are raunchy comedies and torture flicks. This stuff is garbage for your mind. Exposure to trash like this really does affect the way people think but most fans of movies like these will never admit it because they like it too much.

Completely agree and an interesting way of looking at the question.
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Old 03-17-2010, 06:02 AM   #16
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I'm more concerned that insipid nonsense based on toys like GI Joe and Transformers is attracting adult demographics Not a good reflection on our culture when our biggest films are based on comic books, toys, and disneyland rides...
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I'm more concerned that insipid nonsense based on toys like GI Joe and Transformers is attracting adult demographics Not a good reflection on our culture when our biggest films are based on comic books, toys, and disneyland rides...
I don't have a huge problem with franchises based on younger fare, so much as I'm wary about what they do with it. Take the "Transformers" franchise for example. The first film had a pretty good story, all told...but did we really need Mikhaela to be dressed in revealing outfits, while everyone else wears camouflage or street clothes? Did we really need a discussion about masturbation, or references to pornography? Does the U.S. President really need to be depicted as clueless during such a huge crisis? All of these elements add up to form a sizable "black mark" on the film's moral record, especially since its based off a line of kids' toys. That's why when I heard such things had been ramped up even further for the sequel, I skipped it.
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Old 03-17-2010, 03:22 PM   #18
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I'm more concerned that insipid nonsense based on toys like GI Joe and Transformers is attracting adult demographics Not a good reflection on our culture when our biggest films are based on comic books, toys, and disneyland rides...
+1 Bravo! While you're at it, maybe throw in Harry Potter and the Twilight craze. Adults who get into things intended for children and young adults creep me out a bit. Perhaps I'm a snob, but I have nothing but contempt for people who watch the reality shows like Dancing with the Stars, Survivor and anything with the words Kardashian or Housewives in it.

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+1 Bravo! While you're at it, maybe throw in Harry Potter and the Twilight craze. Adults who get into things intended for children and young adults creep me out a bit. Perhaps I'm a snob, but I have nothing but contempt for people who watch the reality shows like Dancing with the Stars, Survivor and anything with the words Kardashian or Housewives in it.
I am older and enjoy Harry Potter (although I don't obsess about it). They are fun and enjoyable movies. They are also movies I can watch with my daughter. Also, movies don't have to have ultraviolence (OK in moderation), byzantine plots, politics, nudity (OK in the proper situations), or massive explosions to be entertaining. Sometimes, I just want simple entertainment.

I am preparing to enjoy "The African Queen" on blu-ray and it has less sex and violence than Harry Potter, has a straight forward plot, no nudity, and only one explosion; but, is still one of the best movies ever made.

I don't like reality shows, there is rarely any reality in them, and it OK to be snobbish about that.
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I am older and enjoy Harry Potter (although I don't obsess about it). They are fun and enjoyable movies.
You're not the type of person I am referring to. I'm talking about my lonely 40-something cat lady coworkers who get giddy about Harry Potter and who see Twilight as a romance.
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