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Old 03-30-2010, 12:09 AM   #1
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Default Yet Another Headphone Recommendation Thread

-Preferably Noise-canceling
-Around <$100
-Still Able to Reproduce details in Movies/Music - (I don't want to say something like "audiophile-quality", lol)

That's it. I was looking at the Sennheiser HD515 and HD 280 at the moment - does anybody else have other recommendations from personal experience?

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Old 03-30-2010, 10:13 AM   #2
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-Preferably Noise-canceling
-Around <$100
-Still Able to Reproduce details in Movies/Music - (I don't want to say something like "audiophile-quality", lol)

That's it. I was looking at the Sennheiser HD515 and HD 280 at the moment - does anybody else have other recommendations from personal experience?
Between these two, I'd choose the HD 280 Pro( http://goodcans.com/HeadphoneStore/i...products_id=13 ).

By "Preferably Noise-canceling" I take it you mean closed headphones( Passive Noise Reduction ) & not actual Noise Reduction Headphones( Active Noise Reduction )?

Here are some resources that may prove helpful:
http://www.avguide.com/headphone-buyers-guide
( excellent honest reviews here ) http://goodcans.com/HeadphoneStore/
http://www.goodcans.com/HeadphoneRev...ionreview.html



from: http://www.goodcans.com/
Noise Reduction Headphones.
Sometime in the early 90's, ANR headphones began to be marketed primarily to airplane travelers. ANR refers to “Active Noise Reduction,” (as opposed to Passive Noise Reduction which is just blocking sound with a bulky, closed headphone, or use of earplugs in the ear canal). If you’re in an environment with a steady, low droning sound, (like an airplane engine), ANR headphones can be helpful because they produce an opposite sound wave to the ear which in effect, lessens the loudness of the offending droning noise. The result, the offending noise is reduced and you now have the means to listen to music or movies through headphones at a normal volume, (FYI, turning up volume in headphones to drown outside sounds is not good for the ears).

Some points about ANR headphones to remember:
-- Random noises are "NOT" reduced! Talking, banging, babies crying, etc..... not reduced by the ANR circuitry.
-- Sometimes erroneously called "Noise Cancellation" headphones.... they reduce one offending noise, not cancel!
-- $300 ANR headphones, even from self boastful famous audio manufacturers, do not sound as good to an audiophile's ears as does a $79 Grado SR60i. Besides being closed which affects sound quality, the ANR circuitry introduces some hiss.
-- If you travel a lot, by all means, spend some money on some good ANR headphones. But if you only travel occasionally, opt for the less expensive ones for traveling and buy some regular headphones for all other uses.
Sennheiser makes some very high quality ANR headphones which we are liking and recommending. We are also liking one from an independent company called the PlaneQuiet headphones. -- Or, you may want to consider an IEM, as they can passively block outside noises, (see below).

IEM's, In-Ear-Monitors, In-Ear Earphones, Canal Phones...
In-Ears are a tricky product to recommend. So much depends on the fit in the ear for both sound quality reasons and for noise blockage reasons. And everyone's ears are different, so what works for one person, may not work well for another! Plus, some people can't stand sticking the things deep into the ear canal, while others seem to get used to it, and love the intimacy of the sound. Etymotic and Shure kind of led the way in this category. But given the popularity of the iPod, (and other portable players), and the not-so-good earbuds that come with them, IEM's are getting more and more popular and many companies are jumping in with me-too products. Even Grado now has some in-ears! Unfortunately, the better ones are quite expensive, ($200 and up). As mentioned above, we are really liking a newer one from Sleek-Audio. It has a unique feature in that it's sound is adjustable by changing out various ports. You'll find a full review in our reviews section. In the under $100 category, we've often been disappointed with the sound quality from most companies and they really hold back, (many in the lower price ranges are lacking in detail or bass).. But now, Grado has one for under $100, and we're quite pleased!

Due to the portability factor and the noise blocking factor, I've enjoyed some in-ears for several years now. They sound better to me than earbuds which I don't find fit my ears very well, (and sound inconsistent as a result). And I find besides being super portable, IEM's can block outside sound out quite well so I use them a lot when traveling. And a maybe not so common use... I often use them when going to sleep at night, (which rules out some of the bulkier designs that protrude from the ear). One thing I want to point out. Good IEM's can produce very clear detail. But when it comes to headphone sound, I feel a full sized headphone gives a larger sound and it's hard to compare with an IEM which produces a sound that is totally inside your head. In other words, I'm not gonna give up my Good Cans!




I use a pair of $99 Etymotic 6i Isolator Earphones( http://www.etymotic.com/errormsg/def...ephp/er6i.aspx ) for noise free listening on the go( with iPod ) & at home( with receiver-music & movies ). They seem to do a better job blocking out noise than closed headphones.
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Old 03-30-2010, 01:29 PM   #3
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Yes, I think I'll go try out the 280s at Best Buy then order them from Amazon, if anything - thanks, Zip. And I did mean Passive.
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I bought the 280s from BB, tried them out for 2 days, then returned them.

They were uncomfortable and cumbersome, despite their great sound.

To heck with them, lol. I returned them then picked up the HD555 from Amazon. I decided I didn't really need noise-cancelling to begin with.
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Old 04-03-2010, 05:11 AM   #5
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Some people on various headphone forums are claiming these JVCs on Amazon are great for the price:

http://www.amazon.com/JVC-HARX700-High-Grade-Full-Size-Headphone/dp/B0013OWPV4%3FSubscriptionId%3D0SS63947Z47JATV0JD82 %26tag%3Dliorswebsite-20%26linkCode%3Dxm2%26camp%3D2025%26creative%3D165 953%26creativeASIN%3DB0013OWPV4
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HD515's are open so not what you are after (there also shitty headphones).
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I returned both of them. I realized I wasn't a headphone person after all.
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I returned both of them. I realized I wasn't a headphone person after all.
Why not? Please tell me you at least had a crossfeed in operation. (Honestly I also can't stand any headphones that cost < $100 [not uncluding some in ears which there are a couple okay options for < $100]).

And going from you speaker set-up to anything lower then a properly driven hd600, or even better HD800 would be underwhelming.

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Why not? Please tell me you at least had a crossfeed in operation. (Honestly I also can't stand any headphones that cost < $100 [not uncluding some in ears which there are a couple okay options for < $100]).

And going from you speaker set-up to anything lower then a properly driven hd600, or even better HD800 would be underwhelming.
Exactly. I realized I would never use them as it is. I thought I might - but alas, I don't have the $ to be spending that much on headphones - I could put it into my actual HT or my car or whatnot.
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Exactly. I realized I would never use them as it is. I thought I might - but alas, I don't have the $ to be spending that much on headphones - I could put it into my actual HT or my car or whatnot.
Fair enough. Speakers aren't an option for me, hence I have a fantastic headphone set-up (plus I prefer headphones for music). Trust me though, if you ever hear a properly driven hd800, ut'll make nearly any speaker system seem undetailed.
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I decided some time ago that I absolutely hated the sound of various PC speaker setups, and I didn't have cheap ones either. Anyway, I started listening through my old Sony headphones (almost 20 yrs old) and that wasn't cutting it either. So I bought a new pair.

I could never see myself investing $2,000 on headphones, as they are for occasional listing only, but I did buy a pair of Shure SRH840 cans that I think suit my needs most admirably. I do know this...the sound from the Shure's is far superior to any former PC speaker setup that I've owned. I am very, very happy with them.

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Fair enough. Speakers aren't an option for me, hence I have a fantastic headphone set-up (plus I prefer headphones for music). Trust me though, if you ever hear a properly driven hd800, ut'll make nearly any speaker system seem undetailed.
I agree, no room acoustics to worry about either.
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I agree, no room acoustics to worry about either.
Indeed. I have been a fan of the hd600/580's for many years (I don't think much of most of sennheisers headphones though), but the hd800 is trully a unique headphone. Not only does it easily compete with electrostatic headphones it is better then many as well (which is a shock for me to say such a thing as I never thought a dynamic headphone would comes close to an equally priced electrostatic headphones in terms of detail and overall neatrallity). After hearing them for the first time I started saving and once I had my money saved up I bought and have not regretted the purchase since.

Room acoustics is what kills nearly all high end speaker set-ups I have heard. I've heard $20,000 speakers, but the room acoustics made them sound cheap and nasty. It was as if the owner bought them more so they could glout about owning them then for the music reproduction, which is fine and all, I just don't understand why someone wnating to gloat wouldn't also want the AQ.

I should note though that anyone considering getting a hd800 should research it first and know that a dedicated headphone amp and a quality dac is neaded to trully get excellent performance from them (as is the case with hi-end speakers). As always I would also recommend a crossfeed for headphone listening, which are cheap to have built for you (I paid $45 for mine from a trusted duy builder I know, and this was on the expensive side as I wanted more features then one would usually ask for).

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Crossfeed?
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Crossfeed?
I could explain in my own words but wikipedia is right on the money for this one.

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Crossfeeding blends the left and right stereo channels slightly, reducing the extreme channel separation which is characteristic of headphone listening and is known to cause headaches in a small fraction of listeners. Crossfeed is used to compensate for extreme separation of sound sources in older stereo recordings. Crossfeed also improves the soundstage characteristics and makes the music sound more natural, as if one was listening to a pair of speakers.
I never have had a headache from listening to headphones, but it does increase ones percieved soundstage (especially for movies and games you get the sense of sound surrounding you). If you're a 'real' headphone user you owe it to yourself to get yourself one. I personally find it much better then any dsp I have ever used.

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Going to have to agree about the detail etc of headphones. I recently picked up a pair of GS1000i's and a PS Audio headphone amp. I can never go back to speakers, the level of detail and clarity is astounding.

I use mine strictly for my vinyl however I've been eyeballing a Squeezbox/Music Hall DAC combo for my FLAC files etc.
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So no love for The QuietComfort 15's??? My dads started traveling again HC(hardcore), and wants some headphones...

I love the results of the 15's just crazy how much they block out even at bestbuy. It was insanely quite (on a saturday), I can say I didn't listen to music just how it blocked out the noise.

But how overrated are they compared to say the B&W's (which don't seem to say anything about noise reduction)

The reason I am so interested is he said I could also get a pair of $299 headphones which I would love to have not that I go anywhere

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So no love for The QuietComfort 15's??? My dads started traveling again HC(hardcore), and wants some headphones...

I love the results of the 15's just crazy how much they block out even at bestbuy. It was insanely quite (on a saturday), I can say I didn't listen to music just how it blocked out the noise.

But how overrated are they compared to say the B&W's (which don't seem to say anything about noise reduction)

The reason I am so interested is he said I could also get a pair of $299 headphones which I would love to have not that I go anywhere
Both the Bose and the B and W headphones are extremely overpriced and downright bad headphones (they would be okay for what you pay if they where priced at around $30).
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Both the Bose and the B and W headphones are extremely overpriced and downright bad headphones (they would be okay for what you pay if they where priced at around $30).
Do any others block noise as well? And could recommend some that you think do the job blocking noise as well

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Do any others block noise as well? And could recommend some that you think do the job blocking noise as well
May I ask what your budget is and what kind of sound sig you lik, as well as whta music you listen to.
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