For those still whining about Die Hard... - Blu-ray Forum

EricJ · 09-08-2007, 02:47 AM

...And threatening to "Boycott Fox and all the turncoat evil they stand for"--

Just wanted to make sure you didn't miss Bill Hunt's latest front page on Digital Bits.com for 9/7:

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We've got an update for you on the studio's forthcoming Live Free and Die Hard Blu-ray (due on 11/20). We've confirmed that the disc will include only the PG-13 theatrical cut of the film. This has upset some fans, who are aware that the studio is releasing an uncut version of the film on DVD the same day. The reason for the decision is that the uncut version was finished by the director only AFTER completing all the theatrical press junkets and promotional appearances for the film. Unfortunately, this was too late to complete compression and authoring for the Blu-ray version in time to meet street date. So the studio was basically faced with the choice of delaying the title or releasing the theatrical cut only day and date with the DVD. So that's the reason it's PG-13 only.

(...Those cunning Fox weasels!--They came back with a REAL REASON why they backstabbed us! Are we going to stand for that??)

Razzy · 09-08-2007, 02:49 AM

I'll be waiting for the directors cut

BillCable · 09-08-2007, 02:50 AM

Same here. Hopefully it won't be a long wait.

kowhite · 09-08-2007, 02:58 AM

Well I guess that means I'll be buying Die Hard 1-3 and renting 4 for the time being.

I mean, I KNOW I'm going to buy the unrated as soon as it comes out...why double dip. It's not a boycott, it's sensible use of my money.

Razzy · 09-08-2007, 03:01 AM

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Originally Posted by kowhite

Well I guess that means I'll be buying Die Hard 1-3 and renting 4 for the time being.

I mean, I KNOW I'm going to buy the unrated as soon as it comes out...why double dip. It's not a boycott, it's sensible use of my money.

Exactly my thinking.

Maybe Fox should have just delayed it on Blu.

halon · 09-08-2007, 03:10 AM

it's simple. if no one buy's it then they will realize they need to bring out the uncut soon. wasted money on their part, so sad

DetroitSportsFan · 09-08-2007, 03:11 AM

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Originally Posted by kowhite

.I mean, I KNOW I'm going to buy the unrated as soon as it comes out...why double dip. It's not a boycott, it's sensible use of my money.

I agree.

I'm buying the Die Hard 1-3 boxset, but I'll wait for the Unrated LFOTH.

BStecke · 09-08-2007, 03:13 AM

I'll probably be buying both. I can't wait to see this again, and I'll just Netflix the SD Unrated version to see if it's worth the double dip. Life's too short to deny myself just to save 25 bucks.

Dotpattern · 09-08-2007, 03:25 AM

Am I the only one who has no interest in replacing my DVD's with BD's that don't import over all the bonus material?

I have the 2 disc collector's editions of the first 3 Die Hard movies (and the 2 disc sets of the first 2 Spider-Man movies) on DVD and I'm having a hard time justifying the cost of the BD's just to get the movies with very little additional content.

Thoughts anyone?

Krath · 09-08-2007, 03:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Dotpattern

Am I the only one who has no interest in replacing my DVD's with BD's that don't import over all the bonus material?

I have the 2 disc collector's editions of the first 3 Die Hard movies (and the 2 disc sets of the first 2 Spider-Man movies) on DVD and I'm having a hard time justifying the cost of the BD's just to get the movies with very little additional content.

Thoughts anyone?

I dont replace them for the bonus material. I replace them for the movie. I suppose if you have no intrest in seeing the movie in high def then there is no reason to upgrade.

Dotpattern · 09-08-2007, 03:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Krath

I dont replace them for the bonus material. I replace them for the movie. I suppose if you have no intrest in seeing the movie in high def then there is no reason to upgrade.

No, I have a lot of interest in seeing the movies in hi-def, but at $100 I think it would cool to have all the previously released material ported over so I could get rid of my DVDs.

Trust me when I say I'm not complaining...not at all. Like I said, just having a hard time justifying the purchase. And after all these years of buying DVDs, I'm also a little weary of double dips.

raggarichie · 09-08-2007, 03:50 AM

What is so important about a man saying F U in a movie? Will there be any less action? I for one don’t mind the pg-13 rating. It only means me and my family can watch it together.

I was so glad that they had a family friendly version of crank, I applaud Liongates for releasing a decent version that I can watch.

I’ve been coming to this site for sometime now but this is my first post, and I must admit from what I notice a lot of us complain too much. The important thing is that Fox is no longer worrying about BD+ or canceling dates but actually releasing movies.

If Fox decided not to release this movie because they couldn’t get it compress in time, then the majority of us would have another complaint. Another thing Warner release a lot of movies with crappy audio options (superman) but how many of us are complaining that they might bring out another version with PCM audio.

I think as Blu-Ray supporters we should show our support to Blu-ray studios and not give them any reason to be curious about the other side.

kowhite · 09-08-2007, 04:02 AM

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Originally Posted by raggarichie

I think as Blu-Ray supporters we should show our support to Blu-ray studios and not give them any reason to be curious about the other side.

And I will...by buying Die Hard 1-3, Robocop, Edward Scissorhands, Simpsons, I Robot, Master and Commander, Independance Day and maybe even a few more.

Sorry, I'm not going to buy something I don't want...to support Blu-Ray. There's far too much I DO want to buy something I don't want to pay for. I'm sure the other 30-40 movies I buy is more than enough to cover my support.

That being said...I don't think Fox should've delayed this for the unrated. But I don't buy things to support companies...I buy things to feed my movie addiction and if that ends up meaning support...then that's great. But I don't use my money for no other reason than supporting multi-billion dollar corporations. I have to be pleased with what I get in return.

DrinkMore · 09-08-2007, 04:35 AM

It's a double dip, pure and simple.

EricJ · 09-08-2007, 04:50 AM

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Originally Posted by raggarichie

What is so important about a man saying F U in a movie?

I suspect it's for his saying YKYMF in a movie, among other minor excises--
Yes, that's right: You're feeling grudged and holding out, because one ancient and overexposed 90's movie-franchise cliche' got fudged over by an explosion...

...Well, why should we argue with the disk-buying public?

gvortex7 · 09-08-2007, 04:51 AM

This is exactly why it was a good reason not to release a "quadrilogy" for the US market. This way we can just get the box set of the first three movies, then buy the 4th one when a real version comes out.

raggarichie · 09-08-2007, 04:55 AM

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Originally Posted by kowhite

And I will...by buying Die Hard 1-3, Robocop, Edward Scissorhands, Simpsons, I Robot, Master and Commander, Independance Day and maybe even a few more.

Sorry, I'm not going to buy something I don't want...to support Blu-Ray. There's far too much I DO want to buy something I don't want to pay for. I'm sure the other 30-40 movies I buy is more than enough to cover my support.

That being said...I don't think Fox should've delayed this for the unrated. But I don't buy things to support companies...I buy things to feed my movie addiction and if that ends up meaning support...then that's great. But I don't use my money for no other reason than supporting multi-billion dollar corporations. I have to be pleased with what I get in return.

you make good points.

i just feel that all this bickering about the Unrated version might force them to delay it, ant thats the last thing i want to hear from Fox

LynxFX · 09-08-2007, 04:58 AM

Buying all 4. Thought Live Free or Die Hard was plenty good in the theatre with a PG-13. I'll probably rent the unrated DVD just to compare but has there really been any info about how much was added? All they have to do is change one thing and they can call it unrated.

OmegaMan · 09-08-2007, 05:23 AM

buying all 4! I really enjoyed die hard 4 in theaters and cannot miss this one. Even though it's PG 13, i'll still get it because i won't be getting transformers this holiday. But i might sell it when i hear an announcement about the DC version.

justinbaily · 09-08-2007, 05:39 AM

There's "unrated" and then there's "extended edition"...i prefer the latter.
Usuially the former has something like between 5-8 extra minutes which really
doesn't change much but if it were extended it'd be 15-50+ extra minutes.

Sure i'd be interusted in a more violent,with longer fights,stunts and a foul mouthed hero but if all it is a fouler mouthed hero with really nothing else
there's a word for that FILLER...well i want SUBSTANCE.

It's a "to be watched" development but remember AVP directors was only 8 min
longer which is pretty sad because you know it's still chopped to hell.

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09-08-2007, 02:49 AM	#2
Razzy Special Member Member since:Apr 2007 Location:Canada Blu-ray collection:179 Blu-ray reviews:2	I'll be waiting for the directors cut

09-08-2007, 02:50 AM	#3
BillCable Expert Member Member since:Jun 2007 Blu-ray collection:1 Blu-ray reviews:1	Same here. Hopefully it won't be a long wait.

09-08-2007, 02:58 AM	#4
kowhite Active Member Member since:Aug 2007 4K collection:119 Blu-ray collection:727 DVD collection:3 Trading Score:65	Well I guess that means I'll be buying Die Hard 1-3 and renting 4 for the time being. I mean, I KNOW I'm going to buy the unrated as soon as it comes out...why double dip. It's not a boycott, it's sensible use of my money.

09-08-2007, 03:10 AM	#6
halon Senior Member Member since:Jul 2007 Location:Pennsylvania 4K collection:12 Blu-ray collection:18 Blu-ray reviews:4	it's simple. if no one buy's it then they will realize they need to bring out the uncut soon. wasted money on their part, so sad

09-08-2007, 03:13 AM	#8
BStecke Blu-ray Knight Member since:Jun 2007 4K collection:182 Blu-ray collection:567 DVD collection:1 Digital collection:1 iTunes collection:1 Blu-ray reviews: 1 Trading Score:6	I'll probably be buying both. I can't wait to see this again, and I'll just Netflix the SD Unrated version to see if it's worth the double dip. Life's too short to deny myself just to save 25 bucks.

09-08-2007, 03:25 AM	#9
Dotpattern Blu-ray Guru Member since:Aug 2007 Location:Southern California 4K collection:408 Blu-ray collection:1513	Am I the only one who has no interest in replacing my DVD's with BD's that don't import over all the bonus material? I have the 2 disc collector's editions of the first 3 Die Hard movies (and the 2 disc sets of the first 2 Spider-Man movies) on DVD and I'm having a hard time justifying the cost of the BD's just to get the movies with very little additional content. Thoughts anyone?

09-08-2007, 03:50 AM	#12
raggarichie Member Member since:Aug 2007	What is so important about a man saying F U in a movie? Will there be any less action? I for one don’t mind the pg-13 rating. It only means me and my family can watch it together. I was so glad that they had a family friendly version of crank, I applaud Liongates for releasing a decent version that I can watch. I’ve been coming to this site for sometime now but this is my first post, and I must admit from what I notice a lot of us complain too much. The important thing is that Fox is no longer worrying about BD+ or canceling dates but actually releasing movies. If Fox decided not to release this movie because they couldn’t get it compress in time, then the majority of us would have another complaint. Another thing Warner release a lot of movies with crappy audio options (superman) but how many of us are complaining that they might bring out another version with PCM audio. I think as Blu-Ray supporters we should show our support to Blu-ray studios and not give them any reason to be curious about the other side.

09-08-2007, 04:35 AM	#14
DrinkMore Banned Member since:Apr 2007 Location:That's What She Said! Blu-ray collection:140 Blu-ray reviews:7 Trading Score:3	It's a double dip, pure and simple.

09-08-2007, 04:51 AM	#16
gvortex7 Blu-ray Champion Member since:Jan 2007 Location:Fort Lauderdale, FL Blu-ray reviews: 18 Trading Score:105	This is exactly why it was a good reason not to release a "quadrilogy" for the US market. This way we can just get the box set of the first three movies, then buy the 4th one when a real version comes out.

09-08-2007, 04:58 AM	#18
LynxFX Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jul 2007	Buying all 4. Thought Live Free or Die Hard was plenty good in the theatre with a PG-13. I'll probably rent the unrated DVD just to compare but has there really been any info about how much was added? All they have to do is change one thing and they can call it unrated.

09-08-2007, 05:23 AM	#19
OmegaMan New Member Member since:Aug 2007 Location:San Francisco	buying all 4! I really enjoyed die hard 4 in theaters and cannot miss this one. Even though it's PG 13, i'll still get it because i won't be getting transformers this holiday. But i might sell it when i hear an announcement about the DC version.

09-08-2007, 05:39 AM	#20
justinbaily Active Member Member since:Mar 2007	There's "unrated" and then there's "extended edition"...i prefer the latter. Usuially the former has something like between 5-8 extra minutes which really doesn't change much but if it were extended it'd be 15-50+ extra minutes. Sure i'd be interusted in a more violent,with longer fights,stunts and a foul mouthed hero but if all it is a fouler mouthed hero with really nothing else there's a word for that FILLER...well i want SUBSTANCE. It's a "to be watched" development but remember AVP directors was only 8 min longer which is pretty sad because you know it's still chopped to hell.

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